Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Funsterdelux · 20-10-2020 08:18PM

Eod100 wrote: »

It's midnight Wednesday night.

Or if you are Leo, midnight thursday morning.

martingriff · 20-10-2020 08:18PM

theguzman wrote: »

Is lockdown coming in tonight at midnight 00:00 Wedneday morning or have we another 24+hrs left? They made a fair disaster of the timing, could they not have said it comes into effect from 00:01 or 3am etc?

No tonight tomorrow night. Ya they should but it at a different time as it is confusing even to press conference last night

odyssey06 · 20-10-2020 08:19PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Or if you are Leo, midnight thursday morning.

From here until Christmas, it's always midnight.

theguzman · 20-10-2020 08:19PM

Eod100 wrote: »

It's midnight Wednesday night.

But midnight is 00:00 and the start of Wednesday morning and literally 3.5hrs from now? I saw a video of Leo and Martin both as confused as each other. So the lockdown starts at 00:00 on Thursday morning and not Wedneday?

Plumbthedepths · 20-10-2020 08:20PM

martingriff wrote: »

To all the people who are advocating the closure of schools then what. Where are they to go who will look after them. Have you ever had children at home when you are trying to work. When do you allow them back

I fully support the need for schools to be open for the benefit of children ie education. However it has to be safe.
However you seem to be confusing the school setting with a child minding facility as opposed to learning environment.

Eod100 · 20-10-2020 08:21PM

theguzman wrote: »

But midnight is 00:00 and the start of Wednesday morning and literally 3.5hrs from now? I saw a video of Leo and Martin both as confused as each other. So the lockdown starts at 00:00 on Thursday morning and not Wedneday?

That would be today at midnight, it's tomorrow at midnight. Or 00:01 on Thursday say if it's easier.

spookwoman · 20-10-2020 08:21PM

Midday and midnight conventions
https://www.npl.co.uk/resources/q-a/is-midnight-12am-or-12pm#:~:text=There%20are%20no%20standards%20established,with%20those%20ending%20with%20pm.

Eod100 · 20-10-2020 08:22PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Or if you are Leo, midnight thursday morning.

At least they didn't do it with the changing of the clocks.. :pac:

Curious_Case · 20-10-2020 08:24PM

manniot2 wrote: »

is there any pill available for hibernation?

Being a lover of walks through the forest in all seasons, I'd have no hesitation in recommending you try a mix of hazelnuts & acorns. Berries are not to be overlooked either, but they simply don't have the same shelf life.

In an emergency, you could consider "borrowing" from your local farmer's grain store but it's not something I'd be comfortable with myself.

This diet should keep you bright eyed & bushy tailed for the duration.

theguzman · 20-10-2020 08:24PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Midday and midnight conventions
https://www.npl.co.uk/resources/q-a/is-midnight-12am-or-12pm#:~:text=There%20are%20no%20standards%20established,with%20those%20ending%20with%20pm.

00:00 midnight is the start of the new day, on New Years eve 2020 will end at 23:59 and the year 2021 will start at midnight 00:00 so Midnight always belongs to the start of the day. So the lockdown starts on Thursday morning beginning at midnight. The word Wednesday should never have come into it and for something so simple they sure made a good job of confusing people.

WoollyRedHat · 20-10-2020 08:25PM

They should simply have stated 'Day' at '00:00' to avoid any sense of confusion. Midnight is the border between PM & AM, it doesn't belong to either.

Danno · 20-10-2020 08:26PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

More information on validation studies of antigen testing as reported on RTE:

'A detailed health technology analysis on forms of rapid testing is being undertaken by HIQA, with the findings due to be published by the end of the week, according to the Chief Medical Officer.

Asked about rapid antigen testing, Dr Tony Holohan said validation studies are happening in certain settings and said it's vital to know what it's effectiveness is in the field compared to our Irish gold standard.

At least two validation studies are under way at the moment, he said.

However, he said that the antigen test could not be seen as some sort of magical shield.'

Sometimes I wish Boards had a puke emoji.

There isn't rapid testing in Ireland for the most part. And there is feck all contract tracing. If contract tracing was anyway up to scratch we wouldn't be at level 5, 4 or even 3.

We were promised South Korean testing and tracing, we got South Sudan - like almost every god damn thing with the HSE.

niallo27 · 20-10-2020 08:26PM

martingriff wrote: »

And this matters why it is 13 people who have died early due to Covid. Have some respect

Its hugely important, if kids are dying of this and keeping schools open there will uproar, do you honestly not care if kids were dying and we were not being told.

Cluedo Monopoly · 20-10-2020 08:27PM

theguzman wrote: »

But midnight is 00:00 and the start of Wednesday morning and literally 3.5hrs from now? I saw a video of Leo and Martin both as confused as each other. So the lockdown starts at 00:00 on Thursday morning and not Wedneday?

Yes. Thursday morning.

JimToken · 20-10-2020 08:28PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Its hugely important, if kids are dying of this and keeping schools open there will uproar, do you honestly not care if kids were dying and we were not being told.

What are you on about ?

spookwoman · 20-10-2020 08:28PM

theguzman wrote: »

00:00 midnight is the start of the new day, on New Years eve 2020 will end at 23:59 and the year 2021 will start at midnight 00:00 so Midnight always belongs to the start of the day. So the lockdown starts on Thursday morning beginning at midnight. The word Wednesday should never have come into it and for something so simple they sure made a good job of confusing people.

Most of the time if there is downtime on a website they usually work with 00.05 or something like that rather than midnight to stop this type of confusion .

majcos · 20-10-2020 08:29PM

Stheno wrote: »

What I really don't like lately is the refusal to call out numbers

Last time we got % that was community spread was last Monday week when it was about 22% - nothing since then that I recall

No breakdown on ages by range of deaths either or Icu numbers, unless I'm missing smoething

Transmission source of cases in last 2 week period reported 5/10 to 18/10 to date

40.84% under investigation
39.64% Close contact with confirmed cases
17.10% community transmission
1.22% healthcare acquired - patient
0.83% healthcare acquired - staff
0.38% travel related

Of those admitted to ICU in two week period between 5/10 and 18/10, age range as follows

5-14 1
15-24 1
25-34 0
35-44 2
45-54 0
55-64 6
65-74 11
75-84 3
85+ 0

screamer · 20-10-2020 08:29PM

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Yes. Thursday morning.

Exactly, they’d have been better off to impose it at 11pm Wednesday night to avoid confusion. We’re so lucky with what’s running the country.

20-10-2020 08:30PM

majcos wrote: »

Interesting statistic in graphic in that article.

Proportion of Covid cases in school aged children before schools reopened 14.3%

Proportion of Covid cases in school aged children after schools opened 14.1%

Don’t let facts get in the way. I am expecting a concerted effort from certain quarters to get schools closed in case cases start to drop with them still open

martingriff · 20-10-2020 08:30PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I fully support the need for schools to be open for the benefit of children ie education. However it has to be safe.
However you seem to be confusing the school setting with a child minding facility as opposed to learning environment.

Not at all and if I did apologies. But the fact is if the schools are closed what do we do with them. School is very important for education and rules and the such

niallo27 · 20-10-2020 08:30PM

JimToken wrote: »

What are you on about ?

Nobody is reporting the age of the people that died, we all know they are in their 80s but you can be guaranteed when the first young person dies of this it will all over the media.

WoollyRedHat · 20-10-2020 08:31PM

Danno wrote: »

Sometimes I wish Boards had a puke emoji.

There isn't rapid testing in Ireland for the most part. And there is feck all contract tracing. If contract tracing was anyway up to scratch we wouldn't be at level 5, 4 or even 3.

We were promised South Korean testing and tracing, we got South Sudan - like almost every god damn thing with the HSE.

I agree but the failure to have an effective isolation policy means our testing and tracing is doomed to failure.

Jim_Hodge · 20-10-2020 08:31PM

theguzman wrote: »

But midnight is 00:00 and the start of Wednesday morning and literally 3.5hrs from now? I saw a video of Leo and Martin both as confused as each other. So the lockdown starts at 00:00 on Thursday morning and not Wedneday?

There's only one midnight or 00:00 on any Wednesday and that is immediately following 23:59 Wednesday.
Wednesday doesn't begin until 00:00:01. There is no 00:00 on Thursday mornings.

boardise · 20-10-2020 08:34PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There is trouble brewing in england.

Is King Andrew challenging the authority of Parliament ? This was all sorted in the 17thC.

Burnham at the stake I say.

Stheno · 20-10-2020 08:34PM

majcos wrote: »

Transmission source of cases in last 2 week period reported 5/10 to 18/10 to date

40.84% under investigation
39.64% Close contact with confirmed cases
17.10% community transmission
1.22% healthcare acquired - patient
0.83% healthcare acquired - staff
0.38% travel related

Of those admitted to ICU in two week period between 5/10 and 18/10, age range as follows

5-14 1
15-24 1
25-34 0
35-44 2
45-54 0
55-64 6
65-74 11
75-84 3
85+ 0

Ah thanks clearly I have not been looking in the right places

So 17% community transmission does not correlate to rampant in the community to me

Perhaps its a communications issue

majcos · 20-10-2020 08:34PM

rusty cole wrote: »

And every single piece of data conversely points to highest deaths in old, obese and sick people. There could be 30 asymptomatic students in one room and we only have some idea when one becomes a bit sick. Then close contacts are in the firing line WHEN the hse get back to the school. The offending student is taken out but unlike the government promise, theres no pods so the other students party on through the community or school. Without mass testing in schools we will never know really.

Of mass testing that has taken place in schools, 246/10513 tested positive. Lower than positivity rates in community.

20-10-2020 08:34PM

screamer wrote: »

Exactly, they’d have been better off to impose it at 11pm Wednesday night to avoid confusion. We’re so lucky with what’s running the country.

It’s Wednesday night and Thursday morning, so to non pedants midnight Wednesday is well understood

martingriff · 20-10-2020 08:35PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Its hugely important, if kids are dying of this and keeping schools open there will uproar, do you honestly not care if kids were dying and we were not being told.

If it had mutated where regardless of age or fitness then it be very important and I am sure if that was happening they would say without mention of age. I do have a strong feeling the poster I quoted was not thinking as you are, which by the way is a very valid point

MerlinSouthDub · 20-10-2020 08:35PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Don’t let facts get in the way. I am expecting a concerted effort from certain quarters to get schools closed in case cases start to drop with them still open

Yep... I don't understand it but there is a clear anti school agenda that is baffling. It's like the anti Vax crowd, no matter what data you give them they stay entrenched in their original opinion. Anyway, I think we'll see numbers falling steadily over the next week so we should be grand.

Jim_Hodge · 20-10-2020 08:38PM

theguzman wrote: »

00:00 midnight is the start of the new day, on New Years eve 2020 will end at 23:59 and the year 2021 will start at midnight 00:00 so Midnight always belongs to the start of the day. So the lockdown starts on Thursday morning beginning at midnight. The word Wednesday should never have come into it and for something so simple they sure made a good job of confusing people.

Rubbish. The new year starts immediately 00:00 or midnight has past.

How is the basic concept of midnight on a particular day so difficult for you to understand? Midnight end a Calander day.

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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