Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

marno21 · 20-10-2020 07:41PM

Cavan now has a 14 day incidence rate of 910 per 100k. That means roughly 0.9% of the population of Cavan has tested positive for coronavirus in the last 14 days.

It may be time to consider the status of schools on a county by county basis. Schools should not be open in an environment where infection is that widespread.

It's also still growing in Cavan, 80 today with a 14 day case average of 49.5 per day.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 20-10-2020 07:42PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

ICU admissions growing by over 600 each day in the European Union, 1/3 of total capacity will be occupied by COVID patients within a week and a half. I don't know what average level of occupancy of this total is during normal times,but 1/3 of that total being occupied by covid patients is surely a massive strain on the entire continent either way

Most countries have surge capacity plans whereby elective procedures are cancelled and surgical theaters are used for additional icu.

Belgium I believe has fully activated this surge capacity.

Stheno · 20-10-2020 07:43PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

LOL.

Taking it as 2 December before the next announcement so :eek:

It's to be reviewed in four weeks, so around the 18th November

is_that_so · 20-10-2020 07:44PM

Stheno wrote: »

It's to be reviewed in four weeks, so around the 18th November

So excuses coming our way!

Spanish Eyes · 20-10-2020 07:44PM

GazzaL wrote: »

They're already talking about further lockdowns (or extending this lockdown) at Christmas and in January. We haven't even started this one FFS.

Ah don't be so negative. Things will open for the Christmas season, and will shut up in January AGAIN.

Numbers permitting I suppose, but they can be suppressed I suppose, who verifies them I wonder?

US2 · 20-10-2020 07:46PM

Amazing they had 13 deaths reported right after last night's announced, amazing!

Limpy · 20-10-2020 07:46PM

After the schools close for Halloween they may not reopen. If numbers are still high it makes no sense to send kids back into covid Central.

ILoveYourVibes · 20-10-2020 07:46PM

Well one thing is for certain.

THEY CANNOT OPEN THE PUBS BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

People would go mad with christmas and just being out of lockdown.

I would say the pubs can't open at all until next year. If then even!

Its interesting ...people are having very emotional reactions to this.

ILoveYourVibes · 20-10-2020 07:47PM

Limpy wrote: »

After the schools close for Halloween they may not reopen. If numbers are still high it makes no sense to send kids back into covid Central.

Agreed

s1ippy · 20-10-2020 07:48PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/school-ordered-to-reopen-after-closing-due-to-covid-19-fears-1.4386387?mode=amp

Seven students positive and 45 close contacts. The school has been forced to reopen.

Richard Prendiville wrote:

“My over-riding rule of thumb throughout my career has been ‘what is the right thing to do’ in every circumstance I deal with,” he added.

“This situation was no different. I will continue, to the best of my ability, in consultation with all the stakeholders of the school, to manage the health, safety and welfare of individuals to the very best of my ability.”

Richard Prendiville is a man I'd be proud to work for.

odyssey06 · 20-10-2020 07:48PM

marno21 wrote: »

Cavan now has a 14 day incidence rate of 910 per 100k. That means roughly 0.9% of the population of Cavan has tested positive for coronavirus in the last 14 days.
It may be time to consider the status of schools on a county by county basis. Schools should not be open in an environment where infection is that widespread.
It's also still growing in Cavan, 80 today with a 14 day case average of 49.5 per day.

Plus ask the Guards where were they on GAA county final day...

46 Long · 20-10-2020 07:48PM

US2 wrote: »

Amazing they had 13 deaths reported right after last night's announced, amazing!

Except we didn't have 13 deaths today. We had 13 deaths that all occurred in "recent days". No mention of the deceased's age, health or serious underlying conditions.

Spanish Eyes · 20-10-2020 07:48PM

Limpy wrote: »

After the schools close for Halloween they may not reopen. If numbers are still high it makes no sense to send kids back into covid Central.

That's possible but not probable IMV. It makes a lot of sense in the dark days of Winter though if they are trying to keep hospital beds at best capacity and keep the spread from spreading.

But it is the one thing that FF nailed to their mast, so we shall see.

Blondini · 20-10-2020 07:48PM

Limpy wrote: »

After the schools close for Halloween they may not reopen. If numbers are still high it makes no sense to send kids back into covid Central.

Not a popular opinion round these parts.

Prepare to be corrected.

prunudo · 20-10-2020 07:49PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

This is exactly the attitude he was referencing. Take responsibility and stop blaming a third party.

But he's doing exactly that himself, telling the public and teachers to be better behaved while never being critical of their own short comings.
But lets face it, the people who need to pay more attention to the guidelines won't be listening to him either way.

Poorside · 20-10-2020 07:49PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Well one thing is for certain.

THEY CANNOT OPEN THE PUBS BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

People would go mad with christmas and just being out of lockdown.

I would say the pubs can't open at all until next year. If then even!

Its interesting ...people are having very emotional reactions to this.

Hopefully restaurants get to open up at least.

martingriff · 20-10-2020 07:50PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Well one thing is for certain.

THEY CANNOT OPEN THE PUBS BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

People would go mad with christmas and just being out of lockdown.

I would say the pubs can't open at all until next year. If then even!

Its interesting ...people are having very emotional reactions to this.

They will have to allow restaurant and pubs to open for the period at least that is when they make 30% (I heard) of there profits

stephenjmcd · 20-10-2020 07:51PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Well one thing is for certain.

THEY CANNOT OPEN THE PUBS BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

People would go mad with christmas and just being out of lockdown.

I would say the pubs can't open at all until next year. If then even!

Its interesting ...people are having very emotional reactions to this.

people are having very emotional reactions to this.... says the poster posting in caps that the pubs can't open and proclaiming they won't next year either.

We all know they won't be open before Christmas

martingriff · 20-10-2020 07:52PM

To all the people who are advocating the closure of schools then what. Where are they to go who will look after them. Have you ever had children at home when you are trying to work. When do you allow them back

Stheno · 20-10-2020 07:54PM

martingriff wrote: »

They will have to allow restaurant and pubs to open for the period at least that is when they make 30% (I heard) of there profits

Veradkar and Martin have both come out with opinions on this
Martin - we hope to go to level 3 in December

Veradkar - unlikely pubs and restaurants will open again this year

Donohoe - unlikely pubs and restaurants will reopen again this year

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40067942.html

Pubs and restaurants will not be able to trade as normal once the six-week lockdown is over in the run up to Christmas as the country will remain at least level 3 until the New Year.

Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe has confirmed bars and restaurants will remain at level 3 until the end of year and, therefore, will not be able to re-open fully in time for Christmas.

Speaking at a press conference, Mr Donohoe said that even if a move to level 3 before Christmas, it will still create many challenges for the hospitality sector.

In what will be a devastating blow for thousands of businesses across the country, Mr Donohoe’s comments make clear there is little or no chance of returning to a level 2 or even level 1 in time for Christmas.

“In relation to level 3, that is what we are working to get to, but it is the case that we move to level 3 it will still create many challenges for those in our hospitality sector. But that is why we brought into VAT rate of 9% and it's why will maintain the EWSS up to the 31st of March,” he said.

bb1234567 · 20-10-2020 07:55PM

US2 wrote: »

Amazing they had 13 deaths reported right after last night's announced, amazing!

Well you'd think they'd announce it yesterday then if that was the impact they were looking for no?

Every single fcucking week since March we've posters claiming deaths and cases are being secrretly stored as part some diabolical charade of scare mongering . Seems to be cases and deaths being 'saved' for 7 days a week, 365 days of the year

martingriff · 20-10-2020 07:56PM

46 Long wrote: »

Except we didn't have 13 deaths today. We had 13 deaths that all occurred in "recent days". No mention of the deceased's age, health or serious underlying conditions.

And this matters why it is 13 people who have died early due to Covid. Have some respect

Limpy · 20-10-2020 07:56PM

martingriff wrote: »

To all the people who are advocating the closure of schools then what. Where are they to go who will look after them. Have you ever had children at home when you are trying to work. When do you allow them back

Its a big elephant. Its not a situation anybody wants. But if you view pubs as being bad then you would have to say schools are beyond bad.

odyssey06 · 20-10-2020 07:57PM

martingriff wrote: »

They will have to allow restaurant and pubs to open for the period at least that is when they make 30% (I heard) of there profits

Even if they were open they aren't going to have the corporate xmas parties, team lunches, reunion dinners etc

is_that_so · 20-10-2020 08:00PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/school-ordered-to-reopen-after-closing-due-to-covid-19-fears-1.4386387?mode=amp

Seven students positive and 45 close contacts. The school has been forced to reopen.

Richard Prendiville is a man I'd be proud to work for.

One school doth not make a crisis! He also seems to have appointed himself a medical expert and by the looks of it did not talk to the public health people.

JimToken · 20-10-2020 08:00PM

Limpy wrote: »

Its a big elephant. Its not a situation anybody wants. But if you view pubs as being bad then you would have to say schools are beyond bad.

Not going to be as easy to get the schools back next time they shutdown.

Depending on how the pay situation goes during lockdown

embraer170 · 20-10-2020 08:01PM

Deshawn wrote: »

UK 21k new cases 241 deaths
Spain 14k new cases 218 deaths
Netherlands have totally lost control with over 8k cases and 46 deaths
Italy with 11k cases

Some cuntries seeing multiples of previous case records.

Almost all are increasing restrictions by varying levels

ICU beds reserved in German hospitals for Dutch COVID-19 patients.

MerlinSouthDub · 20-10-2020 08:01PM

Limpy wrote: »

Its a big elephant. Its not a situation anybody wants. But if you view pubs as being bad then you would have to say schools are beyond bad.

Every single piece of data points to schools not being a big driver of infection rates.

Stheno · 20-10-2020 08:02PM

So what's the incentive for people if the government are saying it will be level 3 for Christmas?

That means no visitors to your home, no hospitality venues open, no travel outside your county

bb1234567 · 20-10-2020 08:02PM

embraer170 wrote: »

ICU beds reserved in German hospitals for Dutch COVID-19 patients.

Why specifically dutch patients?

Germany also spared capacity for French,Spanish and Italian covid patients back in April as well. Putting all of Europe's healthcare to shame!

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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