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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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    #8222
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,241 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Acosta wrote: »
    Nah that was Katie something or another. Another one homeschooled by Youth Defence parents. Didn't stand a chance.

    ah yes, Katie Ascough


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    #8223
    Annasopra
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Is that the one that was fired as president of a student union somewhere?

    Her Brothers and Sisters took NUI Galway to court

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/students-claiming-religious-bias-urge-further-investigation-1.3391194


    They were all fairly extreme in their homophobia in 2014/2015 alright.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #8224
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    ah yes, Katie Ascough

    while I absolutely don't prescribe to Katie Ascough's views, she was very poorly treated by the university. Absolutely bullied in a way that would be an outrage were she a member of almost any other major religion.


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    #8225
    NovemberWren
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Her Brothers and Sisters took NUI Galway to court

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/students-claiming-religious-bias-urge-further-investigation-1.3391194


    They were all fairly extreme in their homophobia in 2014/2015 alright.

    still though, a 'lifetime ban' from all 'societies' in NUI Galway, - harsh? even "discrimination". Probably they would not enter those societies anyway; but they are young, and it does seem very harsh. Anyhow, after 3 years, they won the case?
    The family are so serious, veer somewhat to didactic. But [I think] they won this under the Equality Act? good sometimes that people challenge these Acts.

    They say "the politicians are not representing the people", sounds good to me; as does their dialectic about 'freedom of speech' and 'religious expression'.
    Their 'Burke Broadcast' on youtube; interesting.


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    #8226
    Hangdogroad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Clowns People disrupt the Mayo Coroner's Court.
    The female, Jemima Burke, seems to be from a family with experience of protesting and was at the High Court to see fellow pro-Christian anti-homosexual campaigners GOD and JW (https://westernpeople.ie/2020/05/10/who-is-jemima-burke-the-mayo-journalist-whose-questioning-of-dr-tony-holohan-went-viral/ )

    That family are like the Irish version of the Westboro Baptists. Bunch of complete weirdos.


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    #8227
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Hangdogroad wrote: »
    That family are like the Irish version of the Westboro Baptists. Bunch of complete weirdos.

    which is really odd, they keep making NUIG suffer for it, child after child.


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    #8228
    Acosta
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    while I absolutely don't prescribe to Katie Ascough's views, she was very poorly treated by the university. Absolutely bullied in a way that would be an outrage were she a member of almost any other major religion.

    She said her views on abortion wouldn't interfere with her role as student president when campaigning. Then let it interfere with her role as president by blocking information on abortion services being printed on a student guide for freshers week, wasting thousands on euro in the process. I think they had a clear cut case in calling for a vote to impeach her. And clearly the majority agreed as they voted her out.


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    #8229
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Acosta wrote: »
    She said her views on abortion wouldn't interfere with her role as student president when campaigning. Then let it interfere with her role as president by blocking information on abortion services being printed on a student guide for freshers week, wasting thousands on euro in the process. I think they had a clear cut case in calling for a vote to impeach her. And clearly the majority agreed as they voted her out.

    and I disagree with what she did, but the abuse and attacks she got, being labeled 'baby Iona' etc.. were completely unwarranted. Especially as most of the abuse came from the same sections of people who regularly are the loudest voices against that.


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    #8230
    TaurenDruid
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    while I absolutely don't prescribe to Katie Ascough's views, she was very poorly treated by the university. Absolutely bullied in a way that would be an outrage were she a member of almost any other major religion.

    Bollocks. Promised to not allow her personal beliefs interfere with her work as an SU officer. Promptly did exactly that and pulled information that had been published for years from the students' journal. Got called on it, got her just desserts.


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    #8231
    Acosta
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    and I disagree with what she did, but the abuse and attacks she got, being labeled 'baby Iona' etc.. were completely unwarranted. Especially as most of the abuse came from the same sections of people who regularly are the loudest voices against that.

    Baby Iona is hardly offensive? Not that I would agree with actual abuse being sent her way. It's easy enough to win an argument with that lot without resorting to abuse as seen in the last two referendums. Iona on the other hand have come out with some fairly disgusting stuff towards women and gay people.


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    #8232
    freshpopcorn
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    I do feel so sorry for the Gardaí who are going to have to deal with her and her likes with their live streaming in the next few weeks!


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    #8233
    Tippex
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    I do feel so sorry for the Gardaí who are going to have to deal with her and her likes with their live streaming in the next few weeks!

    In fairness if the fines come in for being outside the 5km limit the chances are her fines would easily cover the covid bill for the entire country lol


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    #8234
    Dufflecoat Fanny
    Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    I do feel so sorry for the Gardaí who are going to have to deal with her and her likes with their live streaming in the next few weeks!

    Wifi jammer next to her would really annoy her


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    #8235
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,241 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    and I disagree with what she did, but the abuse and attacks she got, being labeled 'baby Iona' etc.. were completely unwarranted. Especially as most of the abuse came from the same sections of people who regularly are the loudest voices against that.

    a quick look at her linkedin page shows the description of "baby iona" isn't far off. How many people list "fulltime anti-abortion campaigner" on their linkedin page.


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    #8236
    PhoneMain
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Clowns People disrupt the Mayo Coroner's Court.
    The female, Jemima Burke, seems to be from a family with experience of protesting and was at the High Court to see fellow pro-Christian anti-homosexual campaigners GOD and JW (https://westernpeople.ie/2020/05/10/who-is-jemima-burke-the-mayo-journalist-whose-questioning-of-dr-tony-holohan-went-viral/ )



    they dont give 1 sh1t about that poor girl. They just like causing hassle and being seen to cause hassle. Its funny, these mad religious ones (like Gemma) are very un Christian in their thinking. Its a pity because they seem to be absolute geniuses but what value would they ever give to society.


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    #8237
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    https://twitter.com/FeckOff2020/status/1318234233052237830


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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    and I disagree with what she did, but the abuse and attacks she got, being labeled 'baby Iona' etc.. were completely unwarranted. Especially as most of the abuse came from the same sections of people who regularly are the loudest voices against that.

    It's one thing calling someone names (I'm not aware of any other abuse she received) but it's another thing to withhold vital information to someone who may need the information because it is contra to your beliefs. Even if you said you wouldn't let your beliefs affect your decisions before a vote was cast.

    What I really don't get is why you think this is some form of "gotcha" moment against the left. People are allowed to be vocal against opposition, especially if the opposition is trying to restrict the rights of many.
    It's about punching up, not down. Why can't you right wingers ever get that?


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    #8239
    [Deleted User]
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FeckOff2020/status/1318234233052237830
    That's horrible.
    You can bet she wouldn't do it to a guard or a younger person.


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    #8240
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,241 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's one thing calling someone names (I'm not aware of any other abuse she received) but it's another thing to withhold vital information to someone who may need the information because it is contra to your beliefs. Even if you said you wouldn't let your beliefs affect your decisions before a vote was cast.

    What I really don't get is why you think this is some form of "gotcha" moment against the left. People are allowed to be vocal against opposition, especially if the opposition is trying to restrict the rights of many.
    It's about punching up, not down. Why can't you right wingers ever get that?
    punching down is all they know. they dont understand why anybody would want to punch up.


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    #8241
    Mad_maxx
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    punching down is all they know. they dont understand why anybody would want to punch up.

    GOD comes across as extremely deranged but i hate that gormless " punching down " leftist term

    it implies that certain demographics ( beit travellers or council house residents ) are incapable of reaching any number of general standards and to criticise them is wrong as they know no better , ties in the with whole " bigotry of low expectations " mindset

    there are people willing to rob us and hurt us at all income levels , no sacred cows

    thats real equality


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    #8242
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,241 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    GOD comes across as extremely deranged but i hate that gormless " punching down " leftist term

    it implies that certain demographics ( beit travellers or council house residents ) are incapable of reaching any number of general standards and to criticise them is wrong as they know no better , ties in the with whole " bigotry of low expectations " mindset

    there are people willing to rob us and hurt us at all income levels , no sacred cows

    thats real equality

    it doesnt imply that at all. you're just quoting your own opinion of those people.


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    #8243
    John Hutton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    while I absolutely don't prescribe to Katie Ascough's views, she was very poorly treated by the university. Absolutely bullied in a way that would be an outrage were she a member of almost any other major religion.
    If the tenor of some of the abuse she received had have occurred in the north people would have been arrested for their sectarianism and bigotry.


    The information published in the magazine about abortions abroad - at the time - could only legally be provided by doctors, councilors or certain specific agencies.


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    #8244
    Penfailed
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FeckOff2020/status/1318234233052237830

    "No one is allowed to wear a mask near me."

    FFS.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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    #8245
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Penfailed wrote: »
    "No one is allowed to wear a mask near me."

    FFS.
    Chivalry be damned, she needs a slap to knock some of the hysteria out of her. Moron.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #8246
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Penfailed wrote: »
    "No one is allowed to wear a mask near me."

    FFS.

    whatever about not wanting to personally wear one (for whatever made up reason) , that is just the height of ignorance. She really has proved that this isn't a 'freedom' thing, this is just contrarian nonsense.


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    #8247
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    whatever about not wanting to personally wear one (for whatever made up reason) , that is just the height of ignorance. She really has proved that this isn't a 'freedom' thing, this is just contrarian nonsense.
    It's an appeal to the "karens" and "kyles" on Arsebook and Twatter so she can get the drug she's addicted to, attention. She's a notice box. And given the average IQ is 100, that means there's a fair cohort of people below that who will buy into her bullsh1t, because, well they're idiots.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #8248
    Mad_maxx
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    it doesnt imply that at all. you're just quoting your own opinion of those people.

    it absolutely does , its about ringfencing individuals from criticism based on what profile they fit , therefore a traveller is not held to the same standard as a working professional from say drumcondra , the left have a sacred cow list of people and groups you can not criticise

    they dont see individuals , they see identity etc

    " punch down " is about policing views and opinions


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    #8249
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,241 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    it absolutely does , its about ringfencing individuals from criticism based on what profile they fit , therefore a traveller is not held to the same standard as a working professional from say drumcondra , the left have a sacred cow list of people and groups you can not criticise

    they dont see individuals , they see identity etc

    " punch down " is about policing views and opinions

    nope. that is not it at all.


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    #8250
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    If you've a few mins free watch this.

    https://twitter.com/DeeWall77749076/status/1318268400959971330?s=19


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    #8251
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    nope. that is not it at all.

    so what does " punch down " mean ?


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