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Coronavirus Pandemic Information- Local and Worldwide

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  • #2012
    endainoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Shadow Dancer wrote: »
    Debatable = an adjective. Open to debate or discussion

    Uh oh we've got a live one here


  • #2013
    Shadow Dancer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Shadow Dancer


    Thanks 4 your valuable contribution!


  • #2014
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Shadow Dancer wrote: »
    Debatable = an adjective. Open to debate or discussion

    Oh, I'm familiar with the meaning and usage of the word.

    Using the adjective 'debatable' in the context of the effectiveness of masks for prevention of infection and reducing transmission of the virus is right up there with discussion about the facts of a flat earth and of the control that the lizard people have over the world.

    Perhaps more suited to the Conspiracies Theories forum than here, tbh.


  • #2015
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,591 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    On a practical idea it might be an idea to get your hair cut.

    They're saying restrictions mightnt be in force till Wednesday evening but .


  • #2016
    Shadow Dancer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Shadow Dancer


    Thanks! You're doing a great job ðŸ‘ðŸ˜


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  • #2017
    yosemitesam1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvYWFlYTRlNjktYWY1MS00OTVlLWFmYzktYTk3NjAxNDY5MjJiLzYwODFlZWU3LWM0NTktNGUxMi1hMWFiLWFhZGMwMDBmYzRhNy80MTNhNjkwNC00ZDcyLTRiZTgtOTQyMS1hYWRjMDAwZmM0YmEvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M&ep=14&episode=ZTMyMmMzZGMtYTE5NC00NjYxLWFlNWQtYWM0YjAwZjZmM2Fk


    Well worth a listen. Not directly coronavirus related but highlights the exact problems we have now due to following experts who are much more suited to complicated dynamics as opposed to complex dynamics.
    Instead of combatting that with multiple perspectives from a wide variety of subjects, we have multiple perspectives from a fairly narrow viewpoint informing policy decisions


  • #2018
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
    I think we should go to level 5, try to get it back under control...

    I also think we should track down what caused clusters in places over the past few weeks, and put something in place if they happen again - fines or arrests if needed...
    So once(if) we get the numbers done again, if we see them creeping again in some place, and if the reasons are people not adhering to the protocols they get stuck with a decent fine...

    try schools and football matches for a start. A place called Crosserlough had a whale of a party a few weeks ago after a football match. That and other games are being blamed for the huge number of cases there. Now, today theres outbreak in the school there


  • #2019
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,392 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    frank8211 wrote: »
    try schools and football matches for a start. A place called Crosserlough had a whale of a party a few weeks ago after a football match. That and other games are being blamed for the huge number of cases there. Now, today theres outbreak in the school there

    Parties and after match events are the two key problems. Think we can keep the schools open. It's a trade off.
    Dr Oosterhouse saying the next 6-12 weeks are the most critical internationally.


  • #2020
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,591 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Water John wrote: »
    Parties and after match events are the two key problems. Think we can keep the schools open. It's a trade off.
    Dr Oosterhouse saying the next 6-12 weeks are the most critical internationally.

    Teachers are already grumbling on radio (Newstalk) that they're being forced to work in a Level 5.
    Some might not turn up for work.


  • #2021
    endainoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Say my name wrote: »
    Teachers are already grumbling on radio (Newstalk) that they're being forced to work in a Level 5.
    Some might not turn up for work.

    The teachers have the two most powerful unions in the country, I don't think the schools will be open too long if we hit level 5...


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  • #2022
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,392 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Many teachers have performed heroically but their unions esp ASTI don't do them any favours.


  • #2023
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


      Water John wrote: »
      Many teachers have performed heroically but their unions esp ASTI don't do them any favours.

      Did you know, unless parents tell a school, the school is not informed about a positive test. Track & trace how are ya.


    • #2024
      Water John
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,392 ✭✭✭✭Water John


      Deleted User wrote: »

        Did you know, unless parents tell a school, the school is not informed about a positive test. Track & trace how are ya.

        Yes aware, track and trace is quite poor. From what I hear, some of the tracing staff, that have been secunded from elsewhere just not doing their job. They get a list to contact and only make a call when a supervisor is around. If they fail to make a contact they are supposed to put the name back on the full list but don't bother.


      • #2025
        enricoh
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭enricoh


        Heard construction is staying open - we're peeing against the wind if so.
        There was six nordie lads in a transit with back seats beside me in the petrol station today. Them working alongside locals on site is a recipe for spreading it.


      • #2026
        Dinzee Conlee
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


        enricoh wrote: »
        Heard construction is staying open - we're peeing against the wind if so.
        There was six nordie lads in a transit with back seats beside me in the petrol station today. Them working alongside locals on site is a recipe for spreading it.

        I read there on RTE they are thinking that the GAA will continue - I think that's a terrible if it does turn out to be true... :mad:


      • #2027
        Water John
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,392 ✭✭✭✭Water John


        Think that might be inter county only, no fans.


      • #2028
        NcdJd
        Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


        According to RTE, level 5 restrictions from Wednesday night.


      • #2029
        zetecescort
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭zetecescort


        Water John wrote: »
        Think that might be inter county only, no fans.

        GAA need to cop on if they want to continue. really should call it off tbh

        https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40067451.html


      • #2030
        whelan2
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,051 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


        Do nct, doe and driving tests still go ahead in level 5


      • #2031
        [Deleted User]
        Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


        whelan2 wrote: »
        Do nct, doe and driving tests still go ahead in level 5

        Not sure, mine was due in June but everyone got a few months extension and passed early October.


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      • #2032
        Reggie.
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,637 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


        Looks like level 5 for 6 weeks


      • #2033
        _Brian
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


        Reggie. wrote: »
        Looks like level 5 for 6 weeks

        Maybe if they had acted when NEPHET advises we would be on the way out now. Places like here in Cavan it’s so out of control it will take a time to be controlled again.


      • #2034
        enricoh
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭enricoh


        Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
        I read there on RTE they are thinking that the GAA will continue - I think that's a terrible if it does turn out to be true... :mad:

        It'll be a long 6 weeks in this weather for people, shorter evenings etc.
        Was watching mayo galway yesterday n thought it was great to have it back on. Champions league back on the telly tomorrow night -no covid misery tomorrow night!


      • #2035
        whelan2
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,051 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


        _Brian wrote: »
        Maybe if they had acted when NEPHET advises we would be on the way out now. Places like here in Cavan it’s so out of control it will take a time to be controlled again.

        Louth are doing well, 5 cases today


      • #2036
        Say my name
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,591 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


        An awful lot of retailers very angry this evening over the upcoming lockdown.

        The busiest time of year and people forced to stay away.
        Rumors of more going to close as they can't cope.

        This has been unprecedented since the foundation of the state. Even those who survived the recession a few years back and were considered strong are feeling the pinch.

        There's going to be a very bleak picture of commerce in Ireland.

        Edit: pay cuts should be considered for government and civil service if this country is ever going to right it's keel when we go through this.


      • #2037
        Buford T. Justice XIX
        Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


        Say my name wrote: »
        An awful lot of retailers very angry this evening over the upcoming lockdown.

        The busiest time of year and people forced to stay away.
        Rumors of more going to close as they can't cope.

        This has been unprecedented since the foundation of the state. Even those who survived the recession a few years back and were considered strong are feeling the pinch.

        There's going to be a very bleak picture of commerce in Ireland.

        Edit: pay cuts should be considered for government and civil service if this country is ever going to right it's keel when we go through this.
        From the FT. Countries with poorer control have worse effects on their economies.
        RjZkRQ8.jpg


      • #2038
        Donegalforever
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


        _Brian wrote: »
        Classrooms have a marked zone for teacher only and far enough away from all students to be safe, students aren’t far enough away from each other and so need masks.

        When you make an effort to understand what is happening and why, things make much more sense.

        There is no need to be patronising.
        I understand full well what is happening.

        The teachers I referred to are setting a bad example - there is no getting away from that.


      • #2039
        Say my name
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,591 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


        Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
        From the FT. Countries with poorer control have worse effects on their economies.
        RjZkRQ8.jpg

        You'd seriously question that graph.

        Vietnam and China did well relatively from Covid.

        I guess we should send someone over and copy and paste their response.


      • #2040
        Dinzee Conlee
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


        Donegalforever wrote: »
        There is no need to be patronising.
        I understand full well what is happening.

        The teachers I referred to are setting a bad example - there is no getting away from that.

        I think Brians point was the teachers are far enough away from the students to not have to wear a mask. I have heard some classrooms have perspex in front of the teacher, to allow them to not have to wear masks...

        If your job is heavily dependent on expressions and facial movements, as teaching can be - then it makes sense that teachers not wear masks in some cases.

        I dont think this is setting a bad example.


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      • #2041
        Neddyusa
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


        Jb1989 wrote: »
        I agree with your sentiment, there are plenty of areas lifeless around here too, different Strokes for different folks.

        I think a big part of perception is down to personality type - introverts are understandably less impacted by the enormous social restrictions wheras for sociable outgoing people its very different. We lost our brightest and best employee today who's in the later camp. Made her decision after the announcement today. She's getting out of the country while she still has some sanity remaining. Big loss to business, but I don't blame her one bit. If I was young free and single I'd be gone too.


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