Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

hetuzozaho · 09-10-2020 07:40PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

See no one actually seems to know. Some are saying you can serve without food now in Dublin, legally, and you're saying otherwise.
I wish we could get to the bottom of this!

BringBackMick doesn't know. Lots of people know.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad569-level-3/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/level3/#bars-cafes-and-restaurants-including-hotel-restaurants-and-bars

Stheno · 09-10-2020 07:40PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Is that actually still true? I think that is no longer the case, might not have been updated but certainly no longer enforced.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

It's all so ridiculous. At this stage why is Dublin subjected to this but not Cork?

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

So "wet" pubs can now open in Dublin if they can serve outside?
That's news to me! Maybe I'll be able to find somewhere tomorrow, I already know of one place where I managed to have pints a couple of weeks ago, but that was a Wednesday so wasn't busy.

No "wet" pubs in Dublin are still not allowed open even outside

They must serve food.

In Dublin, drink-only or “wet pubs” will remain closed, with pubs that serve food permitted to offer outdoor dining only.

Irish Times - Tues 6th October

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/level-3-a-closure-order-for-pubs-and-restaurants-1.4373394

BringBackMick · 09-10-2020 07:41PM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

It's not.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad569-level-3/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/level3/#bars-cafes-and-restaurants-including-hotel-restaurants-and-bars

No mention of 9 euro meal.

Bar must have capacity to serve food doesnt need to serve it to a customer.

Thierry12 · 09-10-2020 07:41PM

Arghus wrote: »

32 admissions to hospital. God be with the days when people used to claim we wouldn't see a rise in hospital admissions. There was some ejit on here a day or two ago saying hospital admissions weren't rising. And he got a few thanks too. You wonder about people.

Dont admissions rise in winter?

Do we have the figures from this time last year?

How much are admission/ICU numbers up on this date last year?

Excess deaths?

09-10-2020 07:41PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

People on here literally suggesting putting out a phase 2 vaccine to the public for a disease that killes about 0.1% of who it infects whom are generally over 80, sums things up.

We need to get a grip

Exactly, by any historic measure, it's not even a minor public health issue. Has been shown to kill those with an average age of 84, that's two years higher than the present average life expectancy in Ireland.

Goldengirl · 09-10-2020 07:43PM

440Hertz wrote: »

Population of Dublin City proper is only 554,554

In both cases you get figures that either in take in their whole county of Dublin which is roughly 1,173,179 and mostly urban or you get ludicrous definitions of the Greater Dublin Area that are taking in Louth, Kildare, Wicklow etc as a metro area, which they’re not.

The Dublin hospitals probably serve an area of about 1.9m

Cork is about 300,000 urban but those hospitals are serving the county and beyond which is at least 570,000 people. The hospitals service probably up to 1m for advanced & high tech medicine.

The hospital system in Ireland generally is under resourced but the situation in Cork is ludicrous.

A major new public hospital should have been built. It’s been discussed for years but without any progress and in reality was far, far more urgent than the NCH white elephant and now we very may well see why!

They can offload a significant number of cases to the Bons (which is a big private hospital - bigger than any of the other Bons as it’s their HQ), the Mater Private (not that big) and also to the South Infirmary/Victoria which is more focused on elective ENT, eyes and joint surgeries.

So basically it’s going to mean loads of cancelled or very long postponed procedures.

Yes. Agree .

Stheno · 09-10-2020 07:43PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

No mention of 9 euro meal.

Bar must have capacity to serve food doesnt need to serve it to a customer.

What part of "Wet pubs in Dublin are to remain closed." don't you understand?

BringBackMick · 09-10-2020 07:44PM

Stheno wrote: »

No "wet" pubs in Dublin are still not allowed open even outside

They must serve food.

Irish Times - Tues 6th October

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/level-3-a-closure-order-for-pubs-and-restaurants-1.4373394

Non wet pubs are allowed serve alcohol to customers without food, simple.

Walk around Dublin and see the facts rather than posting an article from the IT.

Goldengirl · 09-10-2020 07:44PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

they can do this in Dublin too

Not wet pubs.

Stheno · 09-10-2020 07:45PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Non wet pubs are allowed serve alcohol to customers without food, simple.

Walk around Dublin and see the facts rather than posting an article from the IT.

Not in any one that I've been since the latest restrictions

BringBackMick · 09-10-2020 07:45PM

Stheno wrote: »

What part of "Wet pubs in Dublin are to remain closed." don't you understand?

When did I say anything about wet pubs being open?

I said you can get alcohol served in Dublin without food.

You seem unable to ever be wrong. Chin up brah.

pjohnson · 09-10-2020 07:45PM

Stheno wrote: »

What part of "Wet pubs in Dublin are to remain closed." don't you understand?

"Remain" maybe? Thats the joint biggest.

hetuzozaho · 09-10-2020 07:45PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

No mention of 9 euro meal.

Correct, I don't think the Levels page ever did.

BringBackMick wrote: »

Bar must have capacity to serve food doesnt need to serve it to a customer.

Link?

hetuzozaho · 09-10-2020 07:46PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

When did I say anything about wet pubs being open?

I said you can get alcohol served in Dublin without food.

You seem unable to ever be wrong. Chin up brah.

You can also get cocaine in Dublin without food. :pac:

Icyseanfitz · 09-10-2020 07:47PM

And pubs are the big concern again...

Thelonious Monk · 09-10-2020 07:47PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

I said you can get alcohol served in Dublin without food.

I'm sure this is happening but it's against the rules right now

caveat emptor · 09-10-2020 07:47PM

Arghus wrote: »

32 admissions to hospital. God be with the days when people used to claim we wouldn't see a rise in hospital admissions. There was some ejit on here a day or two ago saying hospital admissions weren't rising. And he got a few thanks too. You wonder about people.

100% agree

normanoffside · 09-10-2020 07:47PM

fleet_admiral wrote: »

My local area (Kimmage/Rathmines) seems to be very high. Im thinking this is due to the sheer density of the area and the fact so many houses are shared?

Lots of university students I'd imagine?

Thelonious Monk · 09-10-2020 07:48PM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

You can also get cocaine in Dublin without food. :pac:

It doesn't really lend itself to eating anyway

BringBackMick · 09-10-2020 07:48PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm sure this is happening but it's against the rules right now

Show me a rule that it is broken?

I go to pizza place, sit outside and order a beer.

What is the rule broken?

hetuzozaho · 09-10-2020 07:49PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

And pubs are the big concern again...

Ha, it's Friday evening, something clicks in within my brain!

BringBackMick · 09-10-2020 07:49PM

And the places Ive been to in Dublin are too big of a name to mess around with this. They obviously know it is allowed.

Goldengirl · 09-10-2020 07:50PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

I for one, would very much welcome a co-ordinated response with Europe. We would be less of an outlier, better for the citizens of this island as a whole.

The health systems in Europe are wildly different from ours in terms of capacity , so that is why we need to have our own independent response to this .

hetuzozaho · 09-10-2020 07:51PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Show me a rule that it is broken?

I go to pizza place, sit outside and order a beer.

What is the rule broken?

It would just be that in that situation the establishment would be operating as a "wet pub". Which are closed. They need to operate as a restaurant and serve this meal of 9eur to serve you the beer.

It's been the sound of the summer!

Turtwig · 09-10-2020 07:51PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

People on here literally suggesting putting out a phase 2 vaccine to the public for a disease that killes about 0.1% of who it infects whom are generally over 80, sums things up.

We need to get a grip

IFR for median age of 40: ~0.1%
IFR for median age of 80: ~10%

gmisk · 09-10-2020 07:51PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Show me a rule that it is broken?

I go to pizza place, sit outside and order a beer.

What is the rule broken?

You have to order food....with your beer in dublin.

I literally had pizza outside (you had to order food) with beers at brewery/restaurant in dublin yesterday

manniot2 · 09-10-2020 07:52PM

Noel rock is standing drinking a pint outside a pub in Dublin today. I cudnt care less just wondering if that is allowed?

hetuzozaho · 09-10-2020 07:52PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

And the places Ive been to in Dublin are too big of a name to mess around with this. They obviously know it is allowed.

Give us an example of one as maybe you are correct.

BringBackMick · 09-10-2020 07:54PM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Give us an example of one as maybe you are correct.

Bank Bar and Palace Bar

lawrencesummers · 09-10-2020 07:55PM

Whoever has decided that schools must remain open should hold their hand up so we know who to blame when it’s decided that level 3 isn’t working, and then Later when level 4 isnt working and we eventually admit that we have to close schools to get numbers down.

I would suggest that Anyone receiving the PUP have to homeschool their kids for two weeks, and schools have a lower attendance Made up of frontline workers who have to Work.

Review the numbers after two weeks if it makes a difference, and then all schools close for 2 weeks if not 3 at Halloween.

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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