Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

drunkmonkey · 09-10-2020 09:49AM

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Symptoms are not mild and over the counter medication does nothing. Yet no vaccine...

Over the counter medication/herbs/vitamins can help in preventing or reducing symptoms like most other viruses.
Ask the pharmacist what they take as they've been working most of their lives without a mask or perspex when people have been constantly in and out with visable sickness.

The majority of people this is a harmless virus they don't even know they have. It's not the massive killer we thought it, it was a serious miscalculation of it's deadliness that has taken us to this level of Hysteria.
Don't expect the media to relax any time soon, RTE has broken viewership records this year.

PokeHerKing · 09-10-2020 09:51AM

Hardyn wrote: »

Eh. No. Thats not true at all.

Attempts to create a vaccine for SARS never stopped, it may have been cut back once they were able to contain and eventually suppress it but it didn't stop and nearly 20 years on stil no vaccine.

So no its not wrong. Your OP was categorically wrong.

Non solum non ambulabit · 09-10-2020 09:52AM

xhomelezz wrote: »

Or peeps who won't go for appointed test, or peeps who won't stay at home when showing symptoms etc.

Obese people are the main problem. If we had no obesity Hospitals and ICUs in Ireland could cope comfortably. So much of our resources are tied up treating obesity

Funsterdelux · 09-10-2020 09:53AM

The virus loves to party

The virus loves the booze

Whats next?

The virus loves a doobie?

09-10-2020 09:53AM

GooglePlus · 09-10-2020 09:55AM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Obese people are the main problem. If we had no obesity Hospitals and ICUs in Ireland could cope comfortably. So much of our resources are tied up treating obesity

More old people have died than obese people, I'm sure. So old people are the problem and obese people are actually doing society a favour by shortening their lives while consuming so much.

is_that_so · 09-10-2020 09:57AM

khalessi wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/schools-to-close-for-longer-at-mid-term-break-to-try-curb-covid-19-39604165.html

Suggestions of extra week on midterm to try to curb Covid

It can only be for that period because they would not be able to convince people to support another one if it goes out to even 3 weeks or more.

KrustyUCC · 09-10-2020 09:57AM

Boggles wrote: »

Schools to close for longer at mid-term break to try curb Covid-19

It's not the pubs schools.

Yeah looking like level 4 to coincide with the schools closing I'd fear

KrustyUCC · 09-10-2020 10:01AM

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/a-family-who-were-supposed-to-be-isolating-were-out-calling-taxis-shopping-with-not-even-a-mask-on-gps-see-worrying-trends-at-ground-level-39603738.html

We badly need significant fines for idiots like this

sideswipe · 09-10-2020 10:01AM

Kh1993 wrote: »

Indo reporting extra week closure of schools at mid term. Which would suggest a level 4 or 5 then.

Saw that- Big red banner 'Breaking- Schools to close for longer mid-term break'
inside the article it states that it has been discussed with no decision made. Good old Indo.

This is why there should have been plans made for remote learning to be implemented at some stage over the winter rather than completely ignoring it.
Mind you I saw an ad on RTE for HomeSchool Hub yesterday, gave me flashbacks........ was nice to see Múinteoir Clíona again mind you.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 09-10-2020 10:01AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yeah looking like level 4 to coincide with the schools closing I'd fear

If you want a short sharp shock you might as well go for the whole thing at level 5 or add in curfews and close the off licenses and call it level 6.

KrustyUCC · 09-10-2020 10:03AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

If you want a short sharp shock you might as well go for the whole thing at level 5 or add in curfews and close the off licenses and call it level 6.

Maybe but teachers won't keep teaching at level 5

Government have said they favour moving through the levels as well

Ger Roe · 09-10-2020 10:04AM

Thierry12 wrote: »

Where is the evidence that March will happen?

No one is dieing

How are we going back to 50 a day dieing?

Show me your evidence of this incoming death

Czech Republic had 5000 cases yesterday and no one dieing there

Over 100,000 cases there now, thousands being added every day and 800 death's total

What the **** is going on there?

Seems as doctors like yourself know much

Death of the person with the virus, is not the only consideration - at this stage, it may not even be the primary consideration. There are also potential long term health consequences for the 'recovered', that themselves will have to be treated on an ongoing basis, by a failing health system. There is also the considerable cost and effort of reducing the spread and hopefully the effect on other health service aspects (we are already failing on this priority).

Despite Donnelly continually saying that other services have to be protected, anyone with pre arranged appointments for other conditions, can tell you that they have been cancelled wholesale across many hospitals - right now. Hospitals can not perform anywhere near normal, if covid is in circulation. Even at normal, we don't do so well when winter hits and the hit hasn't even come yet.

Death by covid is not the only consideration - wider death by disruption to services and by associated mental health issues, is a bigger consequence and that is why the spread of the disease has to be reduced.

09-10-2020 10:07AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There has never been a vaccine for any Coronavirus. We are not, as a civilisation, technically advanced enough to do what is being claimed. It's that simple. Some want to believe it and govts are happy to enhance claims to keep up morale. It's not going to happen.

The sad fact of the matter is that the western world made a catastrophic mistake in relation to China and other countries in the region in relation to pathogens. It was as if this was something we could live with over decades or it would always be contained over there. We could have sanctioned and restrained them for every pathogen - we didn't.

We are paying a severe price for decades of incompetence.

What a load of utter bollocks - there will absolutely be a vaccine

09-10-2020 10:09AM

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Attempts to create a vaccine for SARS never stopped, it may have been cut back once they were able to contain and eventually suppress it but it didn't stop and nearly 20 years on stil no vaccine.

So no its not wrong. Your OP was categorically wrong.

Youre adding 2+2 and insisting it's 5. SARS was eradicated. After that funding dried up as the vaccine became redundant. MERS only has a handful of cases every year so it's not regarded as a priority. If they both had the same funding and effort as COVID we'd have a vaccine for both.

Zebra3 · 09-10-2020 10:12AM

AdamD wrote: »

What a load of utter bollocks - there will absolutely be a vaccine

Really?

You can see in to the future?

Or are you a senior member of the government?

RGARDINR · 09-10-2020 10:12AM

AdamD wrote: »

What a load of utter bollocks - there will absolutely be a vaccine

Hopefully but saying that there isn't one for the common cold.

Longing · 09-10-2020 10:12AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Maybe but teachers won't keep teaching at level 5

Government have said they favour moving through the levels as well

I think we will see a longer mid term break for schools. If that happens that will be the government opportunity to bring in a higher level to reduce numbers significantly.

Not that I agree.

funnydoggy · 09-10-2020 10:14AM

RGARDINR wrote: »

Hopefully but saying that there isn't one for the common cold.

There doesn't need to be though

09-10-2020 10:16AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yeah looking like level 4 to coincide with the schools closing I'd fear

Strikes me as more of a Halloween mitigation measure - there will be extra mixing at Halloween, so mitigate by reducing elsewhere

pauldry · 09-10-2020 10:19AM

So in the 1st wave lots died
In the 2nd wave less deaths but still lots of cases
In the 3rd wave there may be something to make it less spreadable so that could keep case numbers a bit lower

Scientists are working on solutions for this every day. The other diseases were worked on but not in the same extent as there wasnt millions and millions of confirmed cases worldwide

RGARDINR · 09-10-2020 10:21AM

funnydoggy wrote: »

There doesn't need to be though

True but saying that all the money invested in it over the years no cure. I know crazy amount of money being thrown at finding a cure for covid but it's 50/50 on there being a cure. Either they will or they won't. At moment they don't so governments down the line will have to go with a plan with there may never be a cure so do we keep this up forever what we're doing or do something else. It could be something that in 50 years time is still killing people as may be around forever. 50/50 chance on a vaccine at the end of the day nó matter how much invested in a cure as one may or may not ever be found.

Akabusi · 09-10-2020 10:21AM

Closing the schools for an extra week at Halloween will help, they could do the same before Xmas too.

Gods Gift · 09-10-2020 10:22AM

Bishops meeting with the government today hoping to be able to open wet churches.

Paddygreen · 09-10-2020 10:24AM

Ger Roe wrote: »

Death

Despite Donnelly continually saying that other services have to be protected, anyone with pre arranged appointments for other conditions, can tell you that they have been cancelled wholesale across many hospitals - right now. Hospitals can not perform anywhere near normal, if covid is in circulation. Even at normal, we don't do so well when winter hits and the hit hasn't even come yet.

Thank you Jesus and the Chinese government for Tik Tok. Keeps our frontline hero’s busy when there is absolutely nothing to do and all day to do it in largely moth balled hospitals that only treat Covid19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHs_S4npZFs

xhomelezz · 09-10-2020 10:27AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Bishops meeting with the government today hoping to be able to open wet churches.

Might pop in for a glass of wine at the weekend.

mloc123 · 09-10-2020 10:27AM

Akabusi wrote: »

Closing the schools for an extra week at Halloween will help, they could do the same before Xmas too.

Remember when they closed schools for "2 weeks" back in March... Nobody can believe a timeline the government give.

Nonoperational · 09-10-2020 10:28AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Thank you Jesus and the Chinese government for Tik Tok. Keeps our frontline hero’s busy when there is absolutely nothing to do and all day to do it in largely moth balled hospitals that only treat Covid19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHs_S4npZFs

I’d love you to come with me for a week. Never put down a week like this, not directly treating Covid but dealing with all the **** its causing and keeping another service on the road. Presentations for everything else are absolutely massive at the moment, its incredibly tough. Enjoy your smug cynicism.

Paddygreen · 09-10-2020 10:29AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Bishops meeting with the government today hoping to be able to open wet churches.

We may yet need the church’s as makeshift morgues to store all the corpses so maybe we should keep the bishops sweet by kissing their rings every now and again.

Boggles · 09-10-2020 10:29AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Don't tell Boggles this... his head would explode, how can cases possibly drop with schools open

mloc123 wrote: »

Remember when they closed schools for "2 weeks" back in March... Nobody can believe a timeline the government give.

But but but it's not the schools?

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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