Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Spanish Eyes · 07-10-2020 07:58PM

To me the checkpoints today whilst difficult for many were sending out a message.

There will be more I think, but at different times.

Wolf359f · 07-10-2020 07:58PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

20 days average hospital stay for Covid can't be right?

3,676 patients have went to hospital with Covid

That's 73,520 hospital days

Covid is here what 200 days, nearly 7 months?

367 patients daily on average have been staying in hospital over the last 7 months

I don't get it, anyone good at the math?

Wolf359f wrote: »

Using the most recent stats I could find, there's been 48328 hospital days with covid patients (215 days in total with an average of 224.74 patients per day). There was a total of 3701 patients in that timeframe, gives me an average stay of 13 days.
My math or understand could be wrong, but I'm open for correction.

speckle wrote: »

is that taking into account the first confirmed patient being mid february, I think the 16th?

No, but unless that patient spent 25,692 days in hospital, it won't drive the average stay of a Covid patient from 13 to 20 days as reported in the press conference today.

Thierry12 · 07-10-2020 08:00PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Using the most recent stats I could find, there's been 48328 hospital days with covid patients (215 days in total with an average of 224.74 patients per day). There was a total of 3701 patients in that timeframe, gives me an average stay of 13 days.
My math or understand could be wrong, but I'm open for correction.

Your math is good

Her 20 day figure was bullshi

cadaliac · 07-10-2020 08:00PM

I can se why they are angry. The North is a basket case, as is the rest of the UK to be honest, but they are localizing the lockdowns there.
I was speaking to someone from Donegal over the weekend and they told me that carry on in the North is plain wreck less. Nobody wearing masks (and all that goes with it) nobody seems to care. All pubs, business open with zero SD or restrictions.

podgeandrodge · 07-10-2020 08:03PM

I think that what little population "we're in this together" is left, is not far from evaporating. With all due respect to anyone saying "think of the vulnerable, elderly etc.", reality is most people won't put up with restrictions much longer. And more moderate people, i.e. the majority, will start supporting marches against restrictions.

Further Garda intrusion, or talk of fines, will only hasten this.

07-10-2020 08:03PM

cadaliac wrote: »

I can se why they are angry. The North is a basket case, as is the rest of the UK to be honest, but they are localizing the lockdowns there.
I was speaking to someone from Donegal over the weekend and they told me that carry on in the North is plain wreck less. Nobody wearing masks (and all that goes with it) nobody seems to care. All pubs, business open with zero SD or restrictions.

Like in the north of England. There was a piece on C4 news last night on the correlation in the UK between rates of COVID and wealth. Large northern cities have a multiple of infections per 100,000 (like 6, 8 or even 10 times) more wealthy southern cities like Bristol, Cambridge and London. There is a huge socio economic element to this

Thomas.. · 07-10-2020 08:03PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54442386

Finally common sense is taking hold

Hurrache · 07-10-2020 08:04PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Democracy going down the tubes.

Oh, did I sleep in when that particular election was on?

stephenjmcd · 07-10-2020 08:05PM

Trumps doctors saying he has detectable anti bodies.

Safe to say a little skeptical about that

cadaliac · 07-10-2020 08:06PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

To me the checkpoints today whilst difficult for many were sending out a message.

There will be more I think, but at different times.

What is the take away message (to you)?

I got the following:
"We don't know what we are doing, we have a lift on the overtime ban and we want to send out a message that we mean business!!"

Seriously though, broadcasting on the national airwaves that the Guards have NO authority to turn you back - is breath takingly stupid.
Not the fact that they had no authority but putting that on the national news.

what the hell! · 07-10-2020 08:06PM

cadaliac wrote: »

I can se why they are angry. The North is a basket case, as is the rest of the UK to be honest, but they are localizing the lockdowns there.
I was speaking to someone from Donegal over the weekend and they told me that carry on in the North is plain wreck less. Nobody wearing masks (and all that goes with it) nobody seems to care. All pubs, business open with zero SD or restrictions.

Yep I saw that when I was up the North over the summer. It was actually kinda scary walking around places like Belfast. People on top of each other in queues and very little mask wearing. Weird how it can be so different.

JP Liz V1 · 07-10-2020 08:07PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Yes, how else could I get to the hotel!

Well Enjoy

07-10-2020 08:08PM

Thomas.. wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54442386

Finally common sense is taking hold

It's the same names being mentioned over and over again, i'm not sure this is anything new.

JP Liz V1 · 07-10-2020 08:09PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Nursing home residents sneaking out the windows and headin to the pubs obviously.

On the sesh with the kids from creches, schools and colleges

Zebra3 · 07-10-2020 08:09PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Oh, did I sleep in when that particular election was on?

If you're not bothered about people being sacked for giving an opinion, you can just say so.

sharky86 · 07-10-2020 08:10PM

what the hell! wrote: »

Yep I saw that when I was up the North over the summer. It was actually kinda scary walking around places like Belfast. People on top of each other in queues and very little mask wearing. Weird how it can be so different.

I’m glad it’s “mostly” different down here but still seening a a fair few people hanging around outside places smoking together in big bunches and personally know people who fully intend on travelling from Dublin to Carlow for the shift. It’s these people that will have Christmas cancelled for us all

stephenjmcd · 07-10-2020 08:10PM

Good luck with that. Does he actually think its a viable proposal. Just bring in MUP, its been talked about for long enough

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1313918185247309824?s=19

Gruffalux · 07-10-2020 08:11PM

You know the way a lot of people say we cannot afford a lockdown, money doesn't grow on trees, who's going to pay for the health service, public health is one thing but where's the money gonna come from...etc? Great news! I found the money!

"The world’s billionaires “did extremely well” during the coronavirus pandemic, growing their already-huge fortunes to a record high of $10.2tn (£7.8tn).

A report by Swiss bank UBS found that billionaires increased their wealth by more than a quarter (27.5%) at the height of the crisis from April to July..."

Today's Guardian newspaper.

Not since the Rockefellers and other assorted magnates swanned around like emperors of the earth in the early 1900s has so much wealth been concentrated in the hands of so few. 27% richer than they already were from betting on the pandemic during 4 months in 2020.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/07/covid-19-crisis-boosts-the-fortunes-of-worlds-billionaires

JP Liz V1 · 07-10-2020 08:11PM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/junior-business-minister-calls-for-three-week-closure-of-off-licences-39599055.html

majcos · 07-10-2020 08:13PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

You just know if we get a cabinet member infected... it will be the minister for agriculture.

Well he is from Donegal so going on the current county incidence rates, you could be right.

Mullaghteelin · 07-10-2020 08:13PM

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

Why would anyone need to be bullied out of trick or treating with their kids? Surely no parents are even contemplating that.

This year has taught us not only are there parents contemplating that, but some will be planning the biggest Halloween party ever to protest.

Thomas.. · 07-10-2020 08:15PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/junior-business-minister-calls-for-three-week-closure-of-off-licences-39599055.html

Interviewer : Minister have you ever heard of prohibition?

Minister: yes it's the opposite of exhibition

JP Liz V1 · 07-10-2020 08:16PM

polesheep wrote: »

On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me,
A virus beginning with a C.

On the second day of Christmas my true love gave to me two surgical gloves and a virus beginning with C

khalessi · 07-10-2020 08:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Better known as facts. Doesn’t go down too well with some here

They indeed could be facts but the fact is there is a very narrow window as to what is considered a close contact in schools compared to other environments.

For example as I said elsewhere my sister in her job in a hospital, came in contact with a doctor who tested positive for covid. As a result she has been tested 3 times in the last week, all negative tg. I sat teaching a child for an hour and was sitting about 60-90cm from him and he tested positive for covid. Despite meeting the within 2 metres and for longer then 15 minutes I was not considered a close contact.
Now why the difference?

Also a child tested positive in secondary school was in school moving room to room sitting beside other kids none tested as close contact.

There are multiple stories or anecdotes if you like in schools around the country about children testing positive and staff not being told, or parents, only for them to find out later after hearing the kids talking about yer man's test.

30 teachers alerted they were close contact of covid positive person via tracking app but HSE intercepted and said it was a glitch. Meanwhile no problem testing and tracking 30 medical staff, who were near the doctor.

The occupation should not matter, if we are now considered frontline staff, be honest with the numbers and provide proper testing and tracking.

landofthetree · 07-10-2020 08:17PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good luck with that. Does he actually think its a viable proposal. Just bring in MUP, its been talked about for long enough

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1313918185247309824?s=19

Its a great idea but it would never happen as loser boring people need their alcohol.

Hurrache · 07-10-2020 08:17PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

If you're not bothered about people being sacked for giving an opinion, you can just say so.

It wasn't because he gave an opinion, it was what the opinion was and the context in which it was given.

KrustyUCC · 07-10-2020 08:19PM

verizon wrote: »

Very interesting numbers. It's amazing this isn't being more vocalised by our state broadcaster.... :pac:

Do the numbers show the same for Donegal and Cork I wonder. It's probably unfortunate Donegal is positioned awkwardly with the border, so the levelling system does not reflect the same for some counties.

It's day 1 of level three in Cork

We won't know for at least 2 weeks if it's having an effect

Hurrache · 07-10-2020 08:21PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good luck with that. Does he actually think its a viable proposal. Just bring in MUP, its been talked about for long enough

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1313918185247309824?s=19

Whatever about those idiots involving themselves in the yellow vest and anti mask ckownage, I'll be fully behind the Beer Goggle Group.

statesaver · 07-10-2020 08:21PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/junior-business-minister-calls-for-three-week-closure-of-off-licences-39599055.html

That's one way to ensure border checks. Not to stop a virus but to stop alcohol smuggling.

Kermit.de.frog · 07-10-2020 08:21PM

France reports record 18,724 new cases and 80 new deaths in hospitals over past 24 hrs. Hospitalisations reached a 3 month high to over 7,000 but still well below the peak.

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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