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The Irish media hysteria

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Great post from Mollser in the daily thread





    Don't give RTE TV views, don't use their horrible Player and don't give their website clicks

    I'm surprised anyone still pays attention to RTE. I stopped about 6 months ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    GazzaL wrote: »
    I'm surprised anyone still pays attention to RTE. I stopped about 6 months ago.


    You'd be surprised

    Just see the daily thread when there's Covid related programming


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭alentejo


    I know several people who have just given up watching the news and current affairs. Its just too much!

    I


  • Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Was watching rte news first time in a while. It really is a shameless Nphet mouth piece. Trying to create some kind of imaginary narrative that there is mass criticism of the Tanaiste- you would hardly get it on Pravda. I’m so glad I never pay that corrupt TV licence and never will and happily RTEs finances continue to get worse.
    I feel sorry for the aul biddies that follow this obsolete station as gospel


  • Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Course R Glynns wife is in rte- so go figure


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 285 ✭✭TexasTornado


    RTE are fantastic. Most watched and respected news source in the country. Long may they reign


  • Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    RTE are fantastic. Most watched and respected news source in the country. Long may they reign

    They’re in rude health -
    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/rte-expects-loss-of-32m-as-coronavirus-hits-ad-revenues-39471184.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    RTE are fantastic. Most watched and respected news source in the country. Long may they reign


    You're not even trying anymore


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭supremenovice


    The way people have been talking about the Leo Varadker interview with Claire Byrne has been blown way out of proportion. I watched it live and what he said was very reasonable. Lets recap some of the 'vitriol' spewing from the Tanaiste. "was not thought through...should not have happened.. landed on us a surprise"
    I mean, that all sounds reasonable enough to me. Some journalists going on as if he drove a bus over Tony. Seriously? A lot of the rhetoric in the media is about how NPHET are effectively the Government. But when the Tanaiste blows that out of the water, the narrative turns to how disrespectul they are to NPHET? A lot in the media, RTE included, are gaslighters. Claire Byrne was shocking last night, immediately jumping in with how shes losing confidence in the CMO. If Leo was kind to Tony Holohan, she'd attack Leo for letting Tony off the hook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,564 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    The way people have been talking about the Leo Varadker interview with Claire Byrne has been blown way out of proportion. I watched it live and what he said was very reasonable. Lets recap some of the 'vitriol' spewing from the Tanaiste. "was not thought through...should not have happened.. landed on us a surprise"
    I mean, that all sounds reasonable enough to me. Some journalists going on as if he drove a bus over Tony. Seriously? A lot of the rhetoric in the media is about how NPHET are effectively the Government. But when the Tanaiste blows that out of the water, the narrative turns to how disrespectul they are to NPHET? A lot in the media, RTE included, are gaslighters.

    But we're continously told by opposition supporters and water protestor that RTE and the government are in cahoots.

    Or something


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,995 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    But we're continously told by opposition supporters and water protestor that RTE and the government are in cahoots.

    Or something

    When you read some threads on Boards you have those who think that rte are the mouthpiece or propaganda wing of the government, yet there are others who think they are really anti-gov.

    I suppose it depends what you want to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,700 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Turned over to tv3 and they're pushing the same made up bs of leo bad mouthing Tony.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Sonic the Shaghog


    Ya cause they are all devastated we aren't in lockdown so they can ramp up the fear, generate all those lovely clicks while people are at home. After fawning over Tony and hes been disrespected if there was a lockdown they'd be running pieces about the devastating job losses etc

    They are as bad as the Daily Mail who were partly responsible for whipping up the UK population into hysteria for weeks demanding a Spanish/italian style lockdown. However they were lockdowned with a single week and then the articles changed to a tone of did the government overreact going into lockdown, then even had the sheer audacity to start trying to whip up people about the "Draconian" lockdown and free the people to save the economy or they were all doomed from job losses

    It's not news or proper journalism from any of them anymore they'll spin news in whatever way will generate the clicks or even downright invent a narrative until enough people buy into it


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭Un1corn


    Just want to disagree with the OP. The biggest news here in Germany is Corona. It's in all the papers everyday. This is the biggest news story in Germany since world war 2. It is bigger than the reunification and collapse of the Soviet Union and East Germany according to Merkel. We are witnessing something remarkable for better or worse and it's the media's duty to bring it to us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Turned over to tv3 and they're pushing the same made up bs of leo bad mouthing Tony.

    You’d have to wonder why, big pharmaceutical companies with big pockets maybe? To buy advertising...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Love reading about all the covid deniers on boards

    And glad i will probably never meet any of you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked




  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭virginmediapls


    Love reading about all the covid deniers on boards

    And glad i will probably never meet any of you

    There really is a weird echo chamber of eejits here who claim Covid-19 causes no harm whatsoever, and Tony Holohan has actually killed more people than the disease.

    It's kind of like thejournal.ie comments section a few years ago now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The way people have been talking about the Leo Varadker interview with Claire Byrne has been blown way out of proportion. I watched it live and what he said was very reasonable. Lets recap some of the 'vitriol' spewing from the Tanaiste. "was not thought through...should not have happened.. landed on us a surprise"
    I mean, that all sounds reasonable enough to me. Some journalists going on as if he drove a bus over Tony. Seriously? A lot of the rhetoric in the media is about how NPHET are effectively the Government. But when the Tanaiste blows that out of the water, the narrative turns to how disrespectul they are to NPHET? A lot in the media, RTE included, are gaslighters. Claire Byrne was shocking last night, immediately jumping in with how shes losing confidence in the CMO. If Leo was kind to Tony Holohan, she'd attack Leo for letting Tony off the hook.
    Anyone who though Leo's Claire Byrne interview contained any vitriol doesn't know what vitrol is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Turned over to tv3 and they're pushing the same made up bs of leo bad mouthing Tony.
    Tony became a weird kind of messiah/guru figure to a lot of frightened people during the dark days of the initial lockdown.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Great post from Mollser in the daily thread


    Don't give RTE TV views, don't use their horrible Player and don't give their website clicks

    RTE's recent "We have the Monopoly on Truth" campaign is particularly creepy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Tony became a weird kind of messiah/guru figure to a lot of frightened people during the dark days of the initial lockdown.

    It was/is utter nonsense. As if he or any of the cast of the Nphet muppet can ever control an endemic respiratory virus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭jackal


    This is the usual media feeding frenzy, where they all go nuts about inconsequential personal bull***t that most people on the street couldn't care less about. Plenty of airtime to fill and paper never refused ink. On the Claire Byrne show you could see the glee on the face of the journo that was on directly after Leo's interview, I imagine he was thinking "Yes! We can get weeks out of this."

    There are some punters here on boards who seem to equate Tony or Leo with their favourite football team or something. Getting a bit "American Politics" for my liking. MY GUY RIGHT YOUR GUY WRONG, GO TEAM NPHET/GOVT. Its a bit pathetic, Holahan, Varadkar etc all just doing their jobs as best they can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    RTE's recent "We have the Monopoly on Truth" campaign is particularly creepy.


    They said what?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭Diarmuid


    Nail on the head
    “That could be a Level 6,” McConkey says. “I know nobody’s talked about a Level 6, and are probably even shocked to hear Sam talk about Level 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.”
    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/sam-mcconkey-s-spinal-tap-moment-takes-the-restrictions-debate-to-level-10-1.4375670


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    This is amazing

    Wait for the Fireman bit

    https://twitter.com/killersundymann/status/1288440419580366848

    But on a more serious note:


    What the fúck can we do about RTE? They just can't be let continue like this

    They're a huge part in crumbling the mental health of people all over the country who just don't know of an alternative/don't want to try one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Reading the comments on here and on Twitter about Prime Time tonight just cements the fact that our national broadcaster need to stop this

    At this stage, they are - genuinely - going to cause suicides in this country.

    Anyone who was at an 8 or 9 tonight thinking about ending it and who watched this debacle would now be at a 10 out of 10 with no going back



    Again:

    What the fúck can we do about RTE? They just can't be let continue like this

    At 6pm most days this Subforum has many, many hundreds of readers. Surely, collectively, we can do something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Love reading about all the covid deniers on boards

    And glad i will probably never meet any of you

    Obviously not, you’ll have to stay inside self isolating forever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    It's an absolute disgrace. 100% agree.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Reading the comments on here and on Twitter about Prime Time tonight just cements the fact that our national broadcaster need to stop this

    At this stage, they are - genuinely - going to cause suicides in this country.

    Anyone who was at an 8 or 9 tonight thinking about ending it and who watched this debacle would now be at a 10 out of 10 with no going back



    Again:

    What the fúck can we do about RTE? They just can't be let continue like this

    At 6pm most days this Subforum has many, many hundreds of readers. Surely, collectively, we can do something?

    Start a thread for people to sign up and commit to not watching RTÉ, I’ll sign up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I havent watched prime time in months...

    I used to watch it regularly....

    i am not buying what they are selling...

    I do watch the rte news...maybe catch the headlines...but if they drag out george lee or fergal bowers i just switch off...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    I havent watched prime time in months...

    I used to watch it regularly....

    i am not buying what they are selling...

    I do watch the rte news...maybe catch the headlines...but if they drag out george lee or fergal bowers i just switch off...

    It's a complete disgrace how much time RTE devote to the virus, it's never ending misery. I think the only positive you can take from the whole pandemic is that it's woken a lot of people up to the fact that RTE is a propaganda machine for the government. I can't think of a single time they interviewed someone over the last few months who said the way we're approaching this virus might be the wrong way. It's propaganda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    When it's all over the likes of RTE need to brought in front of a tribunal. They need to be asked if there were ever communications from seniors at RTE to over eggagerate the issue. Then the likes of the Journal who were putting debunking of fact checks of which were true.

    Commercial advertising revenue has dried up for media but Government Covid advertising is pulling them through. RTE News must be getting decent ratings. They need this to go on for as long as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    When it's all over the likes of RTE need to brought in front of a tribunal. They need to be asked if there were ever communications from seniors at RTE to over exaggerate the issue.


    And this is very do-able by a strong legal firm using the Freedom Of Information Act


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Reading the comments on here and on Twitter about Prime Time tonight just cements the fact that our national broadcaster need to stop this

    At this stage, they are - genuinely - going to cause suicides in this country.

    Anyone who was at an 8 or 9 tonight thinking about ending it and who watched this debacle would now be at a 10 out of 10 with no going back



    Again:

    What the fúck can we do about RTE? They just can't be let continue like this

    At 6pm most days this Subforum has many, many hundreds of readers. Surely, collectively, we can do something?

    Rte and the media here is an out pf control disgrace. Stop consuming their product, simple as. Its been the same for decades, idiots, asking idiots questions, getting nowhere, same debate, every day, week, month , year. Its exhausting. Switch it off !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    It's a crying shame RTE aren't asking questions about the legitimacy of things such as lockdowns, you've to tune in to Niall Boylan on 4fm or Ciara Kelly on Newstalk to get some sort of balance on the current issues. The news and journalists should ask tough questions of the people putting us through this but instead they bombard you the usual old guff like "we're in this together"... like fcuk we are, ONE politician in this country has accepted a pay cut to the covid payment rates. Not a peep... no criticism of government at all, they know where their bread is buttered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    begbysback wrote: »
    Start a thread for people to sign up and commit to not watching RTÉ, I’ll sign up


    Let's say 100 of us add our names to a thread like that, then what though?

    It needs to be led by a journalist with a strong following on Twitter

    The problem is said journalist needs to be a very ballsy one. Doing something like that against RTE would make their future career options a lot smaller


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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Rte and the media here is an out pf control disgrace. Stop consuming their product, simple as. Its been the same for decades, idiots, asking idiots questions, getting nowhere, same debate, every day, week, month , year. Its exhausting. Switch it off !

    First move, not so much as a look at the late late show, take out their cash cows.

    Second, #notomontrose

    They seem to loathe on line news sources, push and promote them to friends etc.

    A more incestuous lot you'd never meet.. That Paedo who was caught in the UK would be a typical profile looking at the hack of them now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭smck321


    It's a complete disgrace how much time RTE devote to the virus, it's never ending misery.

    As someone who get to tell relatives they get 15 minutes with their dying loved ones yes the virus certainly is a never ending misery. So its easy to see wh it gets so much time on RTE considering it is a genuine issue for so many people.

    RTE isn't your pet project just because you pay taxes, it serves all the community and you (singular) are not all the community.


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    I see O Neil on the kings chair again pushing his pills and sweating the uptake of a vaccine!! I don't know many that will take such a vaccine to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭acequion


    smck321 wrote: »
    As someone who get to tell relatives they get 15 minutes with their dying loved ones yes the virus certainly is a never ending misery. So its easy to see wh it gets so much time on RTE considering it is a genuine issue for so many people.

    RTE isn't your pet project just because you pay taxes, it serves all the community and you (singular) are not all the community.

    Come off it now and get down off your high horse!!

    How much misery is there daily in society? How many people have to break the news of a suicide, a road death, a terminal cancer diagnosis, a life changing illness, to name but a few and on a daily basis?

    Yet are they on the news channels every night either here or in more civilised nations? No they're not because it's well accepted that humans neither need nor deserve it and many, with enough stresses in their life, just can't take it. Not a steady undiluted diet of it.

    Just because Covid 19 is a contagious disease and the public needs to be informed doesn't entitle any media outlet or medic based information unit like NPHET to overkill.

    Doom and gloom is a toxin. And a steady diet of toxins is toxic. You should know that if, as you imply, you work in the health secor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭smck321


    acequion wrote: »
    Doom and gloom is a toxin. And a steady diet of toxics is toxic.

    You sound like a middle aged woman trying to sell me crystals.

    The reason every broadcast is about covid is because even with it people aren't obeying restrictions. If you remove it they will be ignored entirely and it will spread. This isn't Sweden where people obey rules for civic reasons here we don't obey them because our society is much more divided, people need to be reminded.

    Where I work there is 1 non covid ICU bed left as of this morning for over 100k people. Without all these toxins as you call it we would have to triage people on who gets care and who doesn't and you would see the reality of what that would entail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    smck321 wrote: »
    You sound like a middle aged woman trying to sell me crystals.

    The reason every broadcast is about covid is because even with it people aren't obeying restrictions. If you remove it they will be ignored entirely and it will spread. This isn't Sweden where people obey rules for civic reasons here we don't obey them because our society is much more divided, people need to be reminded.

    Where I work there is 1 non covid ICU bed left as of this morning for over 100k people. Without all these toxins as you call it we would have to triage people on who gets care and who doesn't and you would see the reality of what that would entail.

    You don’t come off too well there yourself, bit of frontline righteousness seeping through.


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭smck321


    begbysback wrote: »
    You don’t come off there too well there yourself, bit of frontline righteousness seeping through.

    Thats your opinion and you are entitled to it. But calling someones opinion as "righteousness" because you disagree with it doesn't make you the paragon of independent thinking.

    It labels you as someone who feels they have an axe to grind for some injustice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    smck321 wrote: »
    You sound like a middle aged woman trying to sell me crystals.

    The reason every broadcast is about covid is because even with it people aren't obeying restrictions. If you remove it they will be ignored entirely and it will spread. This isn't Sweden where people obey rules for civic reasons here we don't obey them because our society is much more divided, people need to be reminded.

    Where I work there is 1 non covid ICU bed left as of this morning for over 100k people. Without all these toxins as you call it we would have to triage people on who gets care and who doesn't and you would see the reality of what that would entail.

    How many covid patients have you in ICU and how many ICU beds in total have you if you dont mind me asking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭acequion


    smck321 wrote: »
    You sound like a middle aged woman trying to sell me crystals.

    The reason every broadcast is about covid is because even with it people aren't obeying restrictions. If you remove it they will be ignored entirely and it will spread. This isn't Sweden where people obey rules for civic reasons here we don't obey them because our society is much more divided, people need to be reminded.

    Where I work there is 1 non covid ICU bed left as of this morning for over 100k people. Without all these toxins as you call it we would have to triage people on who gets care and who doesn't and you would see the reality of what that would entail.

    The last poster put it very well but I'll add this.

    You sound like an Irish politician /NPHET member/sympathiser/ propaganda media hack.

    There is a very good reason why we're not like the Swedes. They get what they pay for in public services so have a good connect with and trust in their leaders. Here we're constantly sold a pig in a bag. And we're pretty sick of it.

    Yet the vast majority still comply and follow the guidelines. We just don't need people like you nagging constantly at us!


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭smck321


    How many covid patients have you in ICU and how many ICU beds in total have you if you dont mind me asking?

    ICU has been split into non covid and covid, non covid has 3 beds with 2 occupied and covid has 4 beds with 3 occupied.


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭smck321


    acequion wrote: »
    You sound like an Irish politician /NPHET member/sympathiser/ propaganda media hack.

    And you sound like someone who had to stop himself using the work cuck in that sentance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭acequion


    smck321 wrote: »
    ICU has been split into non covid and covid, non covid has 3 beds with 2 occupied and covid has 4 beds with 3 occupied.

    A pretty dismal set up to have so few ICU beds in a supposedly prosperous country. And a monumental failure of a public service.

    And nagging at people is somehow right you think!


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭smck321


    acequion wrote: »
    A pretty dismal set up to have so few ICU beds in a supposedly prosperous country. And a monumental failure of a public service.

    And nagging at people is somehow right you think!

    Are you proposing I pay for the staff and beds myself and upgrade them?


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