Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

_Kaiser_ · 06-10-2020 04:00PM

Bluesquare wrote: »

Does anyone one of they have defined your designated region any better then by “ county” - bit painful for those of us living in the edge of two counties?

Wouldn't worry too much. AGS are not getting the same powers as they had earlier in the year so the main result of the checkpoints will be to cause traffic tailbacks and annoyed Gardai standing in the cold. They can't stop you travelling.

Worth noting too that AGS didn't want those powers again anyway.

facehugger99 · 06-10-2020 04:07PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Wouldn't worry too much. AGS are not getting the same powers as they had earlier in the year so the main result of the checkpoints will be to cause traffic tailbacks and annoyed Gardai standing in the cold. They can't stop you travelling.

Worth noting too that AGS didn't want those powers again anyway.

What a waste of Garda resources to have checkpoints set up to "advise" people. You'd swear we have nothing better for them to do in this country.

It'll be great craic when I'm next stopped and the Guard can advise me not to leave the county and I can advise him I'll be going about my business.

_Kaiser_ · 06-10-2020 04:10PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

What a waste of Garda resources to have checkpoints set up to "advise" people.

It'll be great craic when I'm next stopped and the Guard can advise me not to leave the county and I can advise him I'll be going about my business.

Yep to be fair, I do feel for the AGS members who'll be expected to stand out in the worsening weather manning pointless checkpoints - although, from looking at their Twitter feed they're finding loads of other issues at these checkpoints (chancers with tax out for years, no license/disqualified, drug driving etc) so it's not a complete waste of time.

facehugger99 · 06-10-2020 04:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You would save 1 80 year old life over 100000 jobs? I am speechless! Even more so that 5 people so far have thanked that post.

That really sums up the lack of economic understanding from the pro restrictions.

I suppose you’d gladly put the majority of the country out of work to save 10 lives?

There wouldn’t be any money left to pay welfare, pensions or fund essential services and the country would collapse but at least we saved a few lives. Albeit causing a lot more harm in the process....

Without a strong economy, I can assure you that life expectancy wouldn’t remain at 82 for very long.
At least people dying younger would solve our Covid problem though.

To understand that takes a bit of nuanced thinking that a lot of the pro-lockdown crowd don't have the intellect to manage.

Far easier to sit at home watching Netflix and eating Doritos and tell yourself you're saving a granny.

Rrrrrr2 · 06-10-2020 04:14PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Wouldn't worry too much. AGS are not getting the same powers as they had earlier in the year so the main result of the checkpoints will be to cause traffic tailbacks and annoyed Gardai standing in the cold. They can't stop you travelling.

Worth noting too that AGS didn't want those powers again anyway.

AGS don't want or believe in this nonsense anymore either. There isn't going to be a repeat of last Spring/summers shennanigans. I think they are worried about the kickback and damage to the public relationship that was done previously- we've always had a community/collaborative police force here that has broadly worked, unlike say in France.

John_Rambo · 06-10-2020 04:25PM

average_runner wrote: »

McEntee was there for a wet day in Citibank

Martin was a teacher
Simon Harris no experience in working
Leo Public Service as Doc

Coveney Farm Manager !!

Norma Foley Teacher

Yeah, you're not convincing me that they're all ex public servants and I really do believe Varadkar has medical experience.

average_runner wrote: »

Now if i go through the back bench how many will we find? Our last 3 leaders were Public Servants!!!!

Go for it, I'm pretty busy here. Get back to me with percentages and back it all up with details of where they worked!!!! Edit.. forgot the smiley face, I'm kidding.

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 04:43PM

Center Parcs Longford closing until 30 October as Level 3 restrictions kick in

A statement from the company apologised to all those who had plans to visit in the coming weeks.

https://www.thejournal.ie/center-parcs-longford-closing-level-3-5225206-Oct2020/

I know PJ will come in with some smart remark now but jesus.. peoples mental health must be at all time low. Cant even do a staycation now. Ironically enough this sort of nonsense will encourage foreign travel....

rob316 · 06-10-2020 04:46PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

What a waste of Garda resources to have checkpoints set up to "advise" people. You'd swear we have nothing better for them to do in this country.

It'll be great craic when I'm next stopped and the Guard can advise me not to leave the county and I can advise him I'll be going about my business.

The majority will follow advice and I think we should comply as what could happen down the road is far more restrictive. Balancing the economy and public health will require a good level of compliance.

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 04:48PM

Here are two stories

Gardaí to put up 132 checkpoints across the country to ensure compliance with Level 3 lockdown guidelines

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-to-put-up-132-checkpoints-across-the-country-to-ensure-compliance-with-level-3-lockdown-guidelines-39594074.html

Arsenal star Mesut Ozil offers to pay full wages of man inside Gunnersaurus costume to save his job

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/arsenal-star-mesut-ozil-offers-to-pay-full-wages-of-man-inside-gunnersaurus-costume-to-save-his-job-39594343.html

1 is as meaningful as the other.

topper75 · 06-10-2020 04:50PM

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

AGS don't want or believe in this nonsense anymore either. There isn't going to be a repeat of last Spring/summers shennanigans. I think they are worried about the kickback and damage to the public relationship that was done previously- we've always had a community/collaborative police force here that has broadly worked, unlike say in France.

I once got a bollicking off a French cop for slowly freewheeling along a pedestrian street one day on my bike. Was a tone that I thought maybe ought to be reserved for somebody who threatened a Charlie Hebdo cartoonist. He took it as some sort of personal offence that I didn't see the tiny no-bike sign.

A garda would be more "Hey mate no cycling please - pedestrian street". Jobs a good 'un.

Tacitus Kilgore · 06-10-2020 04:53PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

What a waste of Garda resources to have checkpoints set up to "advise" people. You'd swear we have nothing better for them to do in this country.

It'll be great craic when I'm next stopped and the Guard can advise me not to leave the county and I can advise him I'll be going about my business.

:pac:

As if you go anywhere and ya in here posting 24 hours a day 7 days a week :pac:

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 04:55PM

McEntee confirms no additional powers for gardaí to enforce Level 3 restrictions
Ministers defend decision to reject public health emergency team advice on Level 5 move

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/mcentee-confirms-no-additional-powers-for-garda%C3%AD-to-enforce-level-3-restrictions-1.4373407

Noxx must be fuming. Some Guinness cans were thrown just now

thank god. We can see what this is all about now, work, get about ur business, and carry on. And dont listen to crazy NPHET scientists

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 04:55PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

:pac:

As if you go anywhere and ya in here posting 24 hours a day 7 days a week :pac:

me too.

I am like the boards hermit.

FintanMcluskey · 06-10-2020 04:56PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

:pac:

As if you go anywhere and ya in here posting 24 hours a day 7 days a week :pac:

This an online forum with users all over the globe.

None of us are actually "in here"

Were all "far away"

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 04:58PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

This an online forum with users all over the globe.

None of us are actually "in here"

Were all "far away"

Fintan, did you know that under level 5, we would be told to stay at home and only leave your house to exercise within 5km?

NPHET are out of their minds thats for sure.

Irish Aris · 06-10-2020 05:16PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Here are two stories

Gardaí to put up 132 checkpoints across the country to ensure compliance with Level 3 lockdown guidelines

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-to-put-up-132-checkpoints-across-the-country-to-ensure-compliance-with-level-3-lockdown-guidelines-39594074.html

Arsenal star Mesut Ozil offers to pay full wages of man inside Gunnersaurus costume to save his job

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/arsenal-star-mesut-ozil-offers-to-pay-full-wages-of-man-inside-gunnersaurus-costume-to-save-his-job-39594343.html

1 is as meaningful as the other.

As an Arsenal fan I would argue that if Ozil's offer isn't just a PR stunt (which might be), it is more meaningful. #savegunnersaurus

06-10-2020 05:18PM

topper75 wrote: »

A garda would be more "Hey mate no cycling please - pedestrian street". Jobs a good 'un.

I’ve seen a guard handing out fines to people for cycling on a pedestrian street so you might want to reevaluate that.

Tacitus Kilgore · 06-10-2020 05:19PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

me too.

I am like the boards hermit.

Sorry for leaving you out my man

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

This an online forum with users all over the globe.

None of us are actually "in here"

Were all "far away"

Okie dokey

06-10-2020 05:20PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Center Parcs Longford closing until 30 October as Level 3 restrictions kick in

A statement from the company apologised to all those who had plans to visit in the coming weeks.

https://www.thejournal.ie/center-parcs-longford-closing-level-3-5225206-Oct2020/

I know PJ will come in with some smart remark now but jesus.. peoples mental health must be at all time low. Cant even do a staycation now. Ironically enough this sort of nonsense will encourage foreign travel....

I'm genuinely saddened to read that.

A lovely young man I know was diagnosed with cancer earlier in the lockdown. It's just gotten worse and worse for him since then, and the latest prognosis is terminal.

Nothing left to do really but take his wife and kids to Centre Parcs for some lasting good memories.

That won't be happening now.

06-10-2020 05:23PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

McEntee confirms no additional powers for gardaí to enforce Level 3 restrictions
Ministers defend decision to reject public health emergency team advice on Level 5 move

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/mcentee-confirms-no-additional-powers-for-garda%C3%AD-to-enforce-level-3-restrictions-1.4373407

Noxx must be fuming. Some Guinness cans were thrown just now

thank god. We can see what this is all about now, work, get about ur business, and carry on. And dont listen to crazy NPHET scientists

And this is why we will be at level 5 most likely before the month is out. Instead of making sure you can break the guidelines without getting fined etc why not just try to abide by them and thus help to stop the spread of the virus.

There is a serious mental block when it comes to the anti restrictions crowd, they keep breaking restrictions, restrictions get stricter to combat non compliance and they complain but keep breaking them so restrictions have to get stricter again and so on. I don’t know if it’s stupidity, ignorance or just pure badness.

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 05:33PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

And this is why we will be at level 5 most likely before the month is out. Instead of making sure you can break the guidelines without getting fined etc why not just try to abide by them and thus help to stop the spread of the virus.

There is a serious mental block when it comes to the anti restrictions crowd, they keep breaking restrictions, restrictions get stricter to combat non compliance and they complain but keep breaking them so restrictions have to get stricter again and so on. I don’t know if it’s stupidity, ignorance or just pure badness.

Nox you dont have to describe your relations with Gardai.

on a more serious note, average number of deaths with covid since July is less than 1 person a day, do we really need March lockdown? To prevent something that hasnt happened and doesnt look to be happening?

I know you are gonna post deaths will catch up. I read that rubbish back 1st week of Sept... :rolleyes:

Rrrrrr2 · 06-10-2020 05:38PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm genuinely saddened to read that.

A lovely young man I know was diagnosed with cancer earlier in the lockdown. It's just gotten worse and worse for him since then, and the latest prognosis is terminal.

Nothing left to do really but take his wife and kids to Centre Parcs for some lasting good memories.

That won't be happening now.

Oh dear I’m so sorry reading that. Tough to hear
One of the worst things about this ****e it not only robs livelihoods but also tone with loved ones. Most people have had enough Now

bush · 06-10-2020 05:52PM

I wonder when it comes to the end of the 3 weeks will they judge it County by County or is that completely gone out the window?

jackboy · 06-10-2020 05:55PM

bush wrote: »

I wonder when it comes to the end of the 3 weeks will they judge it County by County or is that completely gone out the window?

They are making it up as they go along so depends how they feel at the time.

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 05:55PM

Irish Aris wrote: »

As an Arsenal fan I would argue that if Ozil's offer isn't just a PR stunt (which might be), it is more meaningful. #savegunnersaurus

bush wrote: »

I wonder when it comes to the end of the 3 weeks will they judge it County by County or is that completely gone out the window?

At this rate I'd be happy for gunnersaurus to decide our restrictions.

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 05:57PM

Government raids €1.5bn rainy day fund for Budget 2021
Minister Donohoe says conditions of fund have been met by Covid crisis

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/government-raids-1-5bn-rainy-day-fund-for-budget-2021-1.4373653?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Feconomy%2Fgovernment-raids-1-5bn-rainy-day-fund-for-budget-2021-1.4373653

This suggests to me that there is little appetite to borrow anymore. Fintan brace yourself, USC 2.0 coming in April. But dont worry it will be temporary

Hand in Your Pants · 06-10-2020 05:58PM

Gotta love all the fake dilemmas people are faced with - lockdown now or lockdown later, level five now or level five later etc. etc.
I know it gave your lives some much needed meaning but the pandemic is over.

_Kaiser_ · 06-10-2020 06:14PM

6.1 misrepresenting the travel advice saying you MUST remain in your county unless for essential reasons

No, you mustn't. You are requested but not required to.

Ginger n Lemon · 06-10-2020 06:20PM

Journal idiots commenting "now we had a window to go into full lockdown to bring cases down and then open up a little bit for Xmas"

"but govt blew it, we had our chance now to lower the cases"

God, never gets old

_Kaiser_ · 06-10-2020 06:23PM

5 minutes later in the bulletin the discussion is about the Gardai having no additional enforcement powers.

Does no one edit this programme? No wonder people are confused if this is their primary source for "official" news as it would be for particularly a lot of older people

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