Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Micky 32 · 04-10-2020 05:15PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Of course it’s a possibility but the signs are looking positive that we will

It’s more likely we’ll have a vaccine than not.

hynesie08 · 04-10-2020 05:15PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

You are talking absolute sh*t, even more than your usual guff. I have absolutely no “xenophobic feelings” you are just making up rubbish. I haven’t posted a single thing even remotely supporting your nonsense “theory” so it’s total fiction made up in your head.

You've openly said you hate travellers, but nice try.

Nobotty · 04-10-2020 05:16PM

People need to realise, its not the virus that's putting us back on the path of last March,its people's carelessness with the virus
Lack of discipline
Apathy
Its a very expensive form of laziness

04-10-2020 05:22PM

Nobotty wrote: »

People need to realise, its not the virus that's putting us back on the path of last March,its people's carelessness with the virus
Lack of discipline
Apathy
Its a very expensive form of laziness

Nope, it’s people walking around that are asymptomatic and have no idea they are Covid positive.

Doing things that need to be done such as shopping, checking on family.

FintanMcluskey · 04-10-2020 05:24PM

Nobotty wrote: »

People need to realise, its not the virus that's putting us back on the path of last March,its people's carelessness with the virus
Lack of discipline
Apathy
Its a very expensive form of laziness

The irony in this waffle is that Covid effects obese people.

FintanMcluskey · 04-10-2020 05:26PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Because all going well we’ll be in the process of rolling out a vaccine by then

Thats a great dream, never done before so fast but lets see.

Now I was arguing with a poster who said they wont take it, but still expects to be at a concert next July.

1/3 of Irish adults wont take it according to a poll.

road_high · 04-10-2020 05:27PM

Nobotty wrote: »

People need to realise, its not the virus that's putting us back on the path of last March,its people's carelessness with the virus
Lack of discipline
Apathy
Its a very expensive form of laziness

You might as well be King Canute trying to stop the tide. The public are lost at this stage and aren’t going back to March. That was an unrepeatable once off. It DID NOT work.
If individuals want to lockdown then they are free to do so and should be supported in so far as possible. I wont be joining them or forced to

04-10-2020 05:27PM

Anybody that still think lockdown works... what do you make of Kildare right now?

They were obviously part of national lockdown and slow reopening of the country.

Not long after they were locked down again for another month.

Yesterday they had 44 cases. If that trend continues, what then? Lockdown Kildare again for a third time in 7 months.

How many times will we lock it down over the 9 months of this new “plan”?

road_high · 04-10-2020 05:30PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The irony in this waffle is that Covid effects obese people.

Elephant in the room. The PC brigade can’t accept this of course. “Everyone is the same”- no in the context of a respiratory viral infection not everyone is the same at all

HeidiHeidi · 04-10-2020 05:30PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nope, it’s people walking around that are asymptomatic and have no idea they are Covid positive.

Doing things that need to be done such as shopping, checking on family.

Those things need to be done with an amount of self-responsibility - maintaining distance, hand and cough hygiene etc. These have slipped massively, esp the distancing.

And those things need to be done - a lot of the socialising doesn't, and could/should be fine a lot more responsibly (see above)

road_high · 04-10-2020 05:34PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anybody that still think lockdown works... what do you make of Kildare right now?

They were obviously part of national lockdown and slow reopening of the country.

Not long after they were locked down again for another month.

Yesterday they had 44 cases. If that trend continues, what then? Lockdown Kildare again for a third time in 7 months.

How many times will we lock it down over the 9 months of this new “plan”?

Because lockdown does not work- all it is political optics. Arse, elbow and Nphet- no one could them apart at this stage.
A viral infection that spreads via people- unless we all live in individual pods forever it ain’t going no where. I don’t get where lockdown merchants struggle with any of this?

FintanMcluskey · 04-10-2020 05:36PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Those things need to be done with an amount of self-responsibility - maintaining distance, hand and cough hygiene etc. These have slipped massively, esp the distancing.

And those things need to be done - a lot of the socialising doesn't, and could/should be fine a lot more responsibly (see above)

The most fascinating aspect of this virus is attitudes like above that deflect from the inadequacy of those in charge. Ive seen none of the slips in mask wearing social distance referred to above.

There has been 7 months to increase healthcare capacity, and retrain all those that returned home to work in healthcare.

Extradonary time's call for extrodainary measure.

The mismanagement of cancer screenings, and all other mismanagement in the health service will forever be blamed on anecdotal stories like above among the general population

facehugger99 · 04-10-2020 05:36PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1004/1169272-coronarvirus-ireland/

When will they realise closing everything down isn't going to work? The Government are conspicuously absent as a voice out front and centre. Where is their hospital plan for the Winter and targeted approaches. This is completely unsustainable. Yesterday there was one person in hospital with Covid in the whole county I'm in out of a population of 250000, and this justifies more economic and social carnage??

Depressing and disgusting abdication of responsibility by the Government yet again.

These one-issue bureaucrats are destroying the country and nobody is stopping them.

FintanMcluskey · 04-10-2020 05:38PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Depressing and disgusting abdication of responsibility by the Government yet again.

These one-issue bureaucrats are destroying the country and nobody is stopping them.

And managing to apportion the blame onto people not washing their hands or social distancing.

Gaslighting on a scale never seen before

Penfailed · 04-10-2020 05:44PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Now I was arguing with a poster who said they wont take it, but still expects to be at a concert next July.

Arguing? I prefer to call it a discussion.

Again, I don't expect to be there. I hope to be there.

Penfailed · 04-10-2020 05:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nope, it’s people walking around that are asymptomatic and have no idea they are Covid positive.

Yet the fella that told everyone to act as though they have it was pilloried by the open up crew.

bloopy · 04-10-2020 06:03PM

By the sounds of quite a few of the comments here and elsewhere, it seems that if someone contracts the virus then they obviously did something wrong. Weren't we promised back in March that there will be no stigma attached to contracting Covid?

_Kaiser_ · 04-10-2020 06:12PM

No deaths again today but watching the 6.1 news and the dramatics over the unscheduled NPHET meeting chaired by none other than Dr Tony himself , you'd think it was Defcon 2 in the NORAD war room with Tony hovering over the button :rolleyes:

04-10-2020 06:13PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

No deaths again today but watching the 6.1 news and the dramatics over the unscheduled NPHET meeting chaired by none other than Dr Tony himself , you'd think it was Defcon 2 in the NORAD war room with Tony hovering over the button :rolleyes:

Probably discussing bring Dublin back to level 2 after low numbers today.

04-10-2020 06:16PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Yet the fella that told everyone to act as though they have it was pilloried by the open up crew.

Thankfully we don’t live in a world were we assume everyone is diseased. Not yet at least.

The reality is, we can all carry a virus and/or bacteria.

It’s ultimately up to people to ensure their immune system is in good enough condition to live in the world.

Zebra3 · 04-10-2020 06:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Anybody that still think lockdown works... what do you make of Kildare right now?

They were obviously part of national lockdown and slow reopening of the country.

Not long after they were locked down again for another month.

Yesterday they had 44 cases. If that trend continues, what then? Lockdown Kildare again for a third time in 7 months.

How many times will we lock it down over the 9 months of this new “plan”?

And last I saw most Kildare cases were in Celbridge.

But if there's another lockdown, it'll be countywide again, allowing all the people in Celbridge to travel far and wide to spread the virus to towns with no problems, but that's the way it has to be apparently because of where the Brits drew lines on a map centuries ago.

Nobotty · 04-10-2020 06:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nope, it’s people walking around that are asymptomatic and have no idea they are Covid positive.

Doing things that need to be done such as shopping, checking on family.

People walking around asymptomatic or people without it altogether yet not keeping 2m distances and not washing their hands etc etc you mean
Expensive apathy

PTH2009 · 04-10-2020 06:33PM

Were going to be locked up again countrywide

Broken Strings · 04-10-2020 06:34PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It’s ultimately up to people to ensure their immune system is in good enough condition to live in the world.

This isn't a choice 100% of the time. People can be immunocompromised for a variety of reasons beyond their control

FintanMcluskey · 04-10-2020 06:35PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Were going to be locked up again countrywide

All Winter judging by the fact kangaroo court of NPHET has got its judge and jury reassembled

04-10-2020 06:39PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Then what happened? It's almost like zero covid is a fantasy for morons......

Opened up too much and too soon coupled with importing the virus as ports and airports weren’t closed.

Just look at NZ Incase you need an example. People hear rattling on about the disaster zone that is Sweden rather than NZ who have actually shown how to do it.

04-10-2020 06:43PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

You've openly said you hate travellers, but nice try.

Yeah but who doesn’t? That’s not what the poster is accusing me off though it’s “foreigners” I’m being accused of not wanting in the country.

bucketybuck · 04-10-2020 06:54PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Opened up too much and too soon coupled with importing the virus as ports and airports were closed.

Just look at NZ Incase you need an example. People hear rattling on about the disaster zone that is Sweden rather than NZ who have actually shown how to do it.

That would be the same New Zealand that locked down to achieve zero covid and yet despite all their advantages were not able to achieve it? That New Zealand?

New Zealand are still recording cases almost daily, 5 more today for example, they are still at as much risk from covid as anywhere else.

I know Nox is a troll and so will ignore this pesky fact, but others should be aware that zero covid is a pipe dream that simply won't happen.

Dempo1 · 04-10-2020 07:03PM

Hard as it was, listened to that buffoon, Ryan from the greens earlier on the week in politics, should be named a week in lula land, so he as per usual completely oblivious to what's going on, hopeful he said, Dublin & Donegal will go back to level 2 and the rest of the country are all fine and dandy. What planet is this guy on, he comes up with this a day after 600+ new cases and 10 deaths announced. Hours later, Michael Mc Grath a little more realistic, followed by an unplannes NPHET meeting with Tony Houlihan back in command.

This is not looking good and to be honest, more targeted restrictions needed and urgently.

snowcat · 04-10-2020 07:06PM

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/04/scientists-study-whether-immune-response-wards-off-or-worsens-covid

“Children do not generally get severe Covid-19 and I believe that protection is provided by cross-reacting antibodies triggered by repeating coronavirus colds,” said Kassiotis.

Crucially, it appears coronavirus antibody levels drop steeply when children leave school and that raises a worry: UK children may have lost immunity during the lockdown. “The next coronavirus to spread among them could be the pandemic strain, not the seasonal cold variety,” said Kassiotis. “That does not seem to be happening but it is a concern.”

https://www.foxnews.com/us/floridas-desantis-closing-schools-for-coronavirus-might-have-been-one-of-us-biggest-public-health-mistakes

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings