Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

That would be the same New Zealand that locked down to achieve zero covid and yet despite all their advantages were not able to achieve it? That New Zealand?

New Zealand are still recording cases almost daily, 5 more today for example, they are still at as much risk from covid as anywhere else.

I know Nox is a troll and so will ignore this pesky fact, but others should be aware that zero covid is a pipe dream that simply won't happen.

A few cases here and there is effectively zero covid. Just look at their overall cases and deaths, insignificant compared to Ireland.

Penfailed

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Yeah but who doesn’t?

Me. I don't hate travellers.

road_high

bucketybuck wrote: »

That would be the same New Zealand that locked down to achieve zero covid and yet despite all their advantages were not able to achieve it? That New Zealand?

New Zealand are still recording cases almost daily, 5 more today for example, they are still at as much risk from covid as anywhere else.

I know Nox is a troll and so will ignore this pesky fact, but others should be aware that zero covid is a pipe dream that simply won't happen.

I fully expect NZ cases to shoot back up again in line with the rest of the world.

3xh

Dempo1 wrote: »

Hard as it was, listened to that buffoon, Ryan from the greens earlier on the week in politics, should be named a week in lula land, so he as per usual completely oblivious to what's going on, hopeful he said, Dublin & Donegal will go back to level 2 and the rest of the country are all fine and dandy. What planet is this guy on, he comes up with this a day after 600+ new cases and 10 deaths announced. Hours later, Michael Mc Grath a little more realistic, followed by an unplannes NPHET meeting with Tony Houlihan back in command.

This is not looking good and to be honest, more targeted restrictions needed and urgently.

Grrrrr. Round and round we go.

Cases are meaningless. 613 yesterday. 364 today.

You mention 10 deaths. Why didn’t you mention that 8 of them occurred prior to September. In other words, at least August 31st or before. It’s October 4th today. When did the other 2 occur, by the way?

Also, on the day they announced those 10 deaths, they announced a denotification of 1 death. They also announced a denotification of 8 cases in that same update (03/10/2020)

Today, there were 0 deaths announced.

Dare I say it, but old sleepy head is actually making sense here.

road_high

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

A few cases here and there is effectively zero covid. Just look at their overall cases and deaths, insignificant compared to Ireland.

It isn’t though. If you understood how it spreads then you’d realise it only takes 1 case to speed it exponentially. We dont have zero anywhere and we never will

JTMan

Irish Examiner reporting that Level 4 might be imposed nationwide.

"Sources have told the Irish Examiner it is more likely a decision will be put to Cabinet on Tuesday."

So Level 4 from Wednesday?

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1312798537655169024

hynesie08

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

A few cases here and there is effectively zero covid. Just look at their overall cases and deaths, insignificant compared to Ireland.

Nox: look 1 case caused 36, LOCK IT DOWN!!!!!!

Also nox: shure tis only one or two cases, how bad can it be.....

You need to step your game up son.....

PTH2009

Nervous week ahead then add the Ireland vs Slovakia game too

They need to think about this and the economic/mental health effects that another lockdown could bring. Public holidays such as Paddys Day/Easter/Mothers day have already been written off and people were pissed off. Even worse Halloween/Christmas will be written off too and that is 10 times worse

Im very much looking forward to the GAA championships and now this gob****es will cancel them

Dempo1

JTMan wrote: »

Irish Examiner reporting that Level 4 might be imposed nationwide.

"Sources have told the Irish Examiner it is more likely a decision will be put to Cabinet on Tuesday."

So Phase 4 from Wednesday?

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1312798537655169024

Not sure what at all the point of outdoor dining is in these levels, has anyone looked out their windows today, basically outdoor dining, don't bother, just lock it up I reckon.

snowcat

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

A few cases here and there is effectively zero covid. Just look at their overall cases and deaths, insignificant compared to Ireland.

Ireland had zero Covid then as well. Not so long ago we had a few cases here and there. NZ are an Island group in the middle of nowhere and have shut their borders. They have unique advantages. We can not do that and they can not do that for ever. It will hit the islands at some stage. It is only a matter of time.

PTH2009

JTMan wrote: »

Irish Examiner reporting that Level 4 might be imposed nationwide.

"Sources have told the Irish Examiner it is more likely a decision will be put to Cabinet on Tuesday."

So Level 4 from Wednesday?

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1312798537655169024

joke a ****ing joke :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Kermit.de.frog

JTMan wrote: »

Irish Examiner reporting that Level 4 might be imposed nationwide.

"Sources have told the Irish Examiner it is more likely a decision will be put to Cabinet on Tuesday."

So Level 4 from Wednesday?

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1312798537655169024

Action is needed but they should go further than the prescribed level 4 restrictions.

Also all protests should be banned for the duration of public health emergency. It's not something we should have to do but that insane spectacle on Grafton St was final straw for me.

Give it 3 weeks and assess the situation then.

FintanMcluskey

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Action is needed but they should go further than the prescribed level 4 restrictions.

Also all protests should be banned for the duration of public health emergency. It's not something we should have to do but that insane spectacle on Grafton St was final straw for me.

Give it 3 weeks and assess the situation then.

People have a right to protest.

Especially so even when there is a mild cold going around

for you yes... you're not the unsilent majority though

stephenjmcd

JTMan wrote: »

Irish Examiner reporting that Level 4 might be imposed nationwide.

"Sources have told the Irish Examiner it is more likely a decision will be put to Cabinet on Tuesday."

So Level 4 from Wednesday?

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1312798537655169024

Level 4 has a hell of alot more than that in it for a start and secondly would be a vast overstep in many counties

Zebra3

rusty cole wrote: »

for you yes... you're not the unsilent majority though

Have you got data to back up your silent majority claim?

stephenjmcd

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Action is needed but they should go further than the prescribed level 4 restrictions.

Also all protests should be banned for the duration of public health emergency. It's not something we should have to do but that insane spectacle on Grafton St was final straw for me.

Give it 3 weeks and assess the situation then.

So you want us all locked down fully again like back in March ??

Boards brings out alot of nutters after dark.

I dont agree with the protests but you want civil liberty infringed on as well seeing as there's a right to peaceful protest.

Give it 3 weeks.... where did we hear that before.

I said it before your (deserved) fourm ban I'll say it again you'd love nothing more than a full lockdown

FintanMcluskey

stephenjmcd wrote: »

So you want us all locked down fully again like back in March ??

Boards brings out alot of nutters after dark.

I dont agree with the protests but you want civil liberty infringed on as well seeing as there's a right to peaceful protest.

Give it 3 weeks.... where did we hear that before

The 12th of March

When we decided to obliterate the economy, and cancel all other illness treatments on the basis that Covid would kill 4 in every 100 that contracted it.

Turns out 4 in every 100 may have slight symptoms

PTH2009

stephenjmcd wrote: »

So you want us all locked down fully again like back in March ??

Boards brings out alot of nutters after dark.

I dont agree with the protests but you want civil liberty infringed on as well seeing as there's a right to peaceful protest.

Give it 3 weeks.... where did we hear that before

yeah how can someone enjoy lockdown and what it causes

1000s will be out of jobs in all sectors and no gurantee the covid payment will help, mental health will suffer badly even worse than the last time and what is supposed to be a good time of year (halloween and christmas)

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Action is needed but they should go further than the prescribed level 4 restrictions.

Also all protests should be banned for the duration of public health emergency. It's not something we should have to do but that insane spectacle on Grafton St was final straw for me.

Give it 3 weeks and assess the situation then.

Ban protests, get the water cannon out, fine people , imprison people, curfews, 24/7 armed checkpoints...

These are a few of the things the “save lives” crowd are suggesting.

What a time to be alive...

bucketybuck

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

A few cases here and there is effectively zero covid. Just look at their overall cases and deaths, insignificant compared to Ireland.

There you have it folks, this is the level of intelligence we are dealing with here.

Wants zero covid, doesn't even know what it actually means.

Multipass

bloopy wrote: »

By the sounds of quite a few of the comments here and elsewhere, it seems that if someone contracts the virus then they obviously did something wrong. Weren't we promised back in March that there will be no stigma attached to contracting Covid?

Yep, they either took off their mask using an incorrect technique, or they neglected to wash the outside of their milk carton.

Loafing Oaf

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

cancel all other illness treatments

:rolleyes:
Yes that's literally what happened

Real Donald Trump

bucketybuck wrote: »

There you have it folks, this is the level of intelligence we are dealing with here.

Wants zero covid, doesn't even know what it actually means.

I dont understand why people are still entertaining him at this stage.

Micky 32

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ban protests, get the water cannon out, fine people , imprison people, curfews, 24/7 armed checkpoints...

These are a few of the things the “save lives” crowd are suggesting.

What a time to be alive...

If they all had their way life would only ever be just an existence from now on. It’s clear some people had sad pathetic lives pre- covid.

funnydoggy

Is there any data (aside from anecdotal) showing the prevalence of "long COVID" or of life changing complications?

I feel like the message changed not too long ago from "young people are as much of a risk from dying with COVID" to "young people are less at risk but look - they all have scarred lungs/hearts/brains etc.".

Not saying long term effects weren't known since early in the year but it's as if the narrative shifted strongly, and now it's as if every young person will be left with a debilitating condition.

Like, we know viruses can do this. Even influenza can disable somebody. Anything to show COVID is less or more likely to, by comparison to other viruses?

normanoffside

Everywhere going to level 3++ this week.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/entire-country-set-to-face-tighter-covid-19-controls-with-all-counties-poised-to-be-placed-under-level-3-restrictions-39587101.html

bloopy

funnydoggy wrote: »

Is there any data (aside from anecdotal) showing the prevalence of "long COVID" or of life changing complications?

I feel like the message changed not too long ago from "young people are as much of a risk from dying with COVID" to "young people are less at risk but look - they all have scarred lungs/hearts/brains etc.".

Not saying long term effects weren't known since early in the year but it's as if the narrative shifted strongly, and now it's as if every young person will be left with a debilitating condition.

Like, we know viruses can do this. Even influenza can disable somebody. Anything to show COVID is less or more likely to, by comparison to other viruses?

It does seem to have become a talking point over the last few days. Hopefully we can get some solid data this week instead of what has been presented so far.

snowcat

normanoffside wrote: »

Everywhere going to level 3++ this week.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/entire-country-set-to-face-tighter-covid-19-controls-with-all-counties-poised-to-be-placed-under-level-3-restrictions-39587101.html

A feckin casedemic. 20 people in ICU. 70 people 'including probable or posssible' dead in 3 months. A fatality rate of .5% in the last 3 months. The hospitals were overrun before this farce and the HSE are complicit in destroying our economy and way of life and now they have a perfect scapegoat to hide their incompetence. We spent billions on PPE and we are still in the same position as end of March. Flatten the curve my arse

manniot2

We need a lockdown quickly cancel the cancer screenings, surgeries, education, destroy livelihoods, futures. quick before anyone can’t think about it.