Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Arghus · 01-10-2020 06:47PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Am usually an optimist, but this thing is not going anywhere in fact it is going upwards.

What can be done? What is causing it?

Why are other countries around Europe managing fine (Spain excepted at the moment but they allowed everything to open till all hours).

It is quite worrying really, there is only so much we can do. Holohan is back next week, so brace for full on lockdown methinks.

I wouldn't agree with the assessment that other countries in Europe are doing fine. There's differences from place to place, but, broadly speaking, numbers are on the rise, same as ourselves, across the board and there's a gradual reinstatement of measures occurring or being talked about all over the continent. It's a false narrative to say everyone else is doing fine and we're not. There's quite a few countries doing worse or roughly equally as bad: Spain, France, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Portugal, Hungry, The UK etc, etc.

Gruffalux · 01-10-2020 06:48PM

The way covid spreads in any indoor space is if someone highly infectious is in there.
The way covid does not spread in other indoor spaces is if no one highly infectious is in there.

Mad! I know.

01-10-2020 06:48PM

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

Tony Holohan back next week.

You can play the youngsters in the league cup, but this is champions league stuff

Boggles · 01-10-2020 06:50PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Every restaurant/cafe I've been to in Cork City recently has serious measures in place.

You mean machines that suck the virus out the air?

Must be Dyson.

Ficheall · 01-10-2020 06:53PM

600 cases per 100k in Lifford :eek:

Next highest appears to be Celbridge at 305.

SortingYouOut · 01-10-2020 06:53PM

Cork looking very bad. Won't be long until we see 100+ daily there. Cluster or no cluster, the only way is up for the rebels and I'd say a level 3 soon. It's clear the restaurants there don't know what to be at.

Stormyteacup · 01-10-2020 06:54PM

Gruffalux wrote: »

The way covid spreads in any indoor space is if someone highly infectious is in there.
The way covid does not spread in other indoor spaces is if no one highly infectious is in there.

Mad! I know.

Almost like it spreads like the common cold?

Mad.

Funsterdelux · 01-10-2020 06:56PM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Almost like it spreads like the common cold?

Mad.

Polar101 · 01-10-2020 06:57PM

Ficheall wrote: »

600 cases per 100k in Lifford :eek:

Next highest appears to be Celbridge at 305.

Only 9 cases in Kildare today, so not too many in Celbridge either.

stephenjmcd · 01-10-2020 06:59PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Was there an original date for level 2 for rest of country? Assumed it was just ongoing https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1311716148627599364?s=19

Thats a new one alright, 3 weeks must be a review period so

ACitizenErased · 01-10-2020 07:00PM

Polar101 wrote: »

Only 9 cases in Kildare today, so not too many in Celbridge either.

The whole per 100k thing is a bit misleading, especially if the LEA has less than 100,000, which most do.

Thierry12 · 01-10-2020 07:01PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

That Cork cluster is very shocking. I wonder were the owners not enforcing distancing. Don't want to judge, could have been the cusomters faults entirely but just sounds hard to believe a cluster could grow that large without some fault on the end of the premises owner.

I originally thought closure of indoor dining in Dublin was overkill but in hindsight it looks to have been a pretty wise idea now.

We've seen examples from others countries like in a Starbucks in Korea where even people wearing got masks got infected

It's been theorised for a while that superspreaders while rare are where most cases come from

Something like 10% of people with Covid 19 are responsible for 90% of the infections

We need to scrap these yes and no pcr tests that tell us nothing and make a test to see who's actually contagious

Out of the 400 positives today only 40 could be capable of actually infecting people

manniot2 · 01-10-2020 07:03PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Ronan Glynn - 57 people infected from a restaurant in cork. Big cluster

How many are actually ill? Most common symptom of this virus - being perfectly well.

01-10-2020 07:03PM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Almost like it spreads like the common cold?

Mad.

Doesn’t actually. Most types cold viruses are likely to survive hand washing and survive on surfaces much longer than coronaviruses and influenza viruses

Gruffalux · 01-10-2020 07:04PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

We've seen examples from others countries like in a Starbucks in Korea where even people wearing got masks got infected

It's been theorised for a while that superspreaders while rare are where most cases come from

Something like 10% of people with Covid 19 are responsible for 90% of the infections

We need to scrap these yes and no pcr tests that tell us nothing and make a test to see who's actually contagious

Out of the 400 positives today only 40 could be capable of actually infecting people

That might not be feasible. Plus by the time the superspreader is being tested their work is done.

niallo27 · 01-10-2020 07:08PM

Boggles wrote: »

You mean machines that suck the virus out the air?

Must be Dyson.

If you have nothing constructive to say and are just making fun out of people dieing then I think you should stop in fairness.

niallo27 · 01-10-2020 07:10PM

Gruffalux wrote: »

That might not be feasible. Plus by the time the superspreader is being tested their work is done.

Not if they are caught early.

Boggles · 01-10-2020 07:10PM

niallo27 wrote: »

If you have nothing constructive to say and are just making fun out of people dieing then I think you should stop in fairness.

I didn't do that, retract it please.

Jinglejangle69 · 01-10-2020 07:10PM

Not surprised meath cases are rising.

Know of people from Finglas, ballymun who are arriving in Ashbourne for a feed of pints etc.

Only 10 minute drive.

Arghus · 01-10-2020 07:11PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think we'll eventually see cases across the problematic counties level out and decrease, just like what happened in Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford, who had no restrictions.

In general though all the metrics are pointing to increased spread nationally and have been for quite a while now - we can argue all day about the proportion of community spread or whether this region or that region is more affected - but the bottom line is all the fundamental metrics of the disease have been increasing, increasing and increasing. This has been the case now for months.

That would suggest to me, strongly, that our current level of restrictions is not having the desired impact, unless the impact is to fail slighter slower than we would otherwise. I don't see how you can have faith that essentially doing nothing extra is the right approach.

Those counties you mentioned bucked the trend, but the trend still exists. And as time goes on and as numbers continue to rise across the board your ability and resources to successfully put out each fire becomes increasingly harder and harder.

funnydoggy · 01-10-2020 07:11PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Not if they are caught early.

Super-spreading is an event. You can't catch that early.

You can introduce measures to try to prevent it from happening, but once it's done it's done.

niallo27 · 01-10-2020 07:12PM

Boggles wrote: »

I didn't do that, retract it please.

You are making a joke out of the whole thing, smart comment after smart comment.

Boggles · 01-10-2020 07:13PM

niallo27 wrote: »

You are making a joke out of the whole thing, smart comment after smart comment.

Be and a man and retract what you said.

ACitizenErased · 01-10-2020 07:13PM

niallo27 wrote: »

You are making a joke out of the whole thing, smart comment after smart comment.

Nothing new there

niallo27 · 01-10-2020 07:14PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Super-spreading is an event. You can't catch that early.

You can introduce measures to try to prevent it from happening, but once it's done it's done.

I thought we were talking about individual super spreaders. What's to stop a superspreader having 2 or 3 events.

Tenzor07 · 01-10-2020 07:16PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Not surprised meath cases are rising.

Know of people from Finglas, ballymun who are arriving in Ashbourne for a feed of pints etc.

Only 10 minute drive.

Conversely, all the people from Wicklow, Meath, Kildare, Louth who come to Dublin to work each day either in retail, education, security, civil service etc. etc.. Can't stop them from coming to work and mixing with the public in Dublin and returning home every evening?

Hurrache · 01-10-2020 07:16PM

Polar101 wrote: »

Only 9 cases in Kildare today, so not too many in Celbridge either.

It was don't quite bad.
https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1311725416705667074?s=19

Jinglejangle69 · 01-10-2020 07:18PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Conversely, all the people from Wicklow, Meath, Kildare, Louth who come to Dublin to work each day either in retail, education, security, civil service etc. etc.. Can't stop them from coming to work and mixing with the public in Dublin and returning home every evening?

True.

Jackman25 · 01-10-2020 07:19PM

Boggles wrote: »

Remember when we used to pretend pubs and restaurants were covid free zones?

That was funny.

Don't remember anyone pretending this.

OscarMIlde · 01-10-2020 07:19PM

Ficheall wrote: »

600 cases per 100k in Lifford :eek:

Next highest appears to be Celbridge at 305.

A teacher in a school in Celbridge was positive and spread it to loads of people in the school.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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