Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

ShagNastii · 24-09-2020 2:50pm

Would easily argue this is the greatest “look” in wrestling history.

They came across as complete monsters during the Hulkamania period. Larger than life almost like real-life cartoon characters. Truly unique. Often copied never equalled.

gerrybbadd · 25-09-2020 10:34am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

How long before a non WWE wrestling company has a World Title cage match with a glass ceiling on the cage for a ex WWE guy to break through and win.

Brass ring ladder match!

CastorTroy · 26-09-2020 11:33am

Is it a coincidence that Kenny Omega does a One Winged Angel, named after a video game, and Mansoor does a similar move called "Sands of Time", which is also a video game reference. Though I know it's a saying as well.

J. Marston · 26-09-2020 2:52pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Is it a coincidence that Kenny Omega does a One Winged Angel, named after a video game, and Mansoor does a similar move called "Sands of Time", which is also a video game reference. Though I know it's a saying as well.

Lots of wrestlers are massive geeks these days.

Not an insult, I am too but without the shredded abs like them!

Itssoeasy · 27-09-2020 12:20am

This coming November will be the 15th anniversary of Eddie Guerrero’s death. Jesus I only worked out it was 15 years because I was watching today on the network the September 23rd 2005 episode of smack down and in the episode list it shows Eddie in November. It’s unfortunate that some of the most vivid memories of my wrestling fandom involve awful moments. I can remember where I was when I heard Owen harts death, Eddie guerreros death, and the other guys evil acts. I remember going on to wwe.com that Sunday night just to see what was happening in wwe(having not heard anything at all) and there was that banner which has that picture of Eddie and it was a shock.

PTH2009 · 27-09-2020 12:34am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

This coming November will be the 15th anniversary of Eddie Guerrero’s death. Jesus I only worked out it was 15 years because I was watching today on the network the September 23rd 2005 episode of smack down and in the episode list it shows Eddie in November. It’s unfortunate that some of the most vivid memories of my wrestling fandom involve awful moments. I can remember where I was when I heard Owen harts death, Eddie guerreros death, and the other guys evil acts. I remember going on to wwe.com that Sunday night just to see what was happening in wwe(having not heard anything at all) and there was that banner which has that picture of Eddie and it was a shock.

Yeah I found out about Eddie's Death the same way can't remember was it a Sunday night or a Monday morning. That banner 'A tragic loss' with Eddies picture was very shocking and so out of the blue. Can't believe its coming up to 15 years

Heard of Benoits death by checking a wrestling news site and seeing a headline 'Chris Benoit and Family found dead'

Warriors death was also out of the blue and a bit eery at the same time. Like something out of a movie. Days after his big return he passes away

Itssoeasy · 27-09-2020 12:42am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Yeah I found out about Eddie's Death the same way can't remember was it a Sunday night or a Monday morning. That banner 'A tragic loss' with Eddies picture was very shocking and so out of the blue. Can't believe its coming up to 15 years

Heard of Benoits death by checking a wrestling news site and seeing a headline 'Chris Benoit and Family found dead'

Warriors death was also out of the blue and a bit eery at the same time. Like something out of a movie. Days after his big return he passes away

It was Sunday night that the banner was there. I heard about that **** from Canada(sorry mods) the Monday it happened and then turned on raw and there was Vince standing in the ring in an empty building in I think Corpus Christi Texas if I’m not mistaken and remembering William regals tribute which was off.

Riddle101 · 27-09-2020 2:57am

I remember I heard about Eddie's death just before school. Went in and my friend told me about it.

With Chris Benoit, I was on camp with the Reserve Defence Force and my sister rang me and told me about it. I was more shocked about Benoit's death but that goes without saying really.

Sirsok · 27-09-2020 9:19am

My mate rang me saying did yiu hear about Eddie Guerrero and I said yeah he is apparently going to win the title off Batista, then he ultimately told me the news.

Only like two weeks later WWE held a raw event in Ireland with Eddie chants ringing around the o2.

beakerjoe · 27-09-2020 10:03am

Anytime of my non wrestling fan mates ask me about someone, they usually have passed unknownest to me.

Agent Coulson · 28-09-2020 9:13am

Is any wonder Jeff Hardy gets caught under the influence a couple a times a year when wrestling promotors continue to let him do high risk dives and stupid ladder moves for them.

Yes it look great for the fans however it's not going to end well for Jeff in the long run.

RollieFingers · 28-09-2020 10:17am

The Jerry Lawler 50th Anniversary show took place over the weekend, headlined by a Thunderdome Cage match pitting Lawler and the Rock 'N' Roll Express against the team of Doug Gilbert, Tommy Rich and Matt Riviera.

Don't know what surprised me more, the fact that Gilbert and Rich are still wrestling, or the fact that the six participants involved have a combined age of 348 :P

TimesArrow · 28-09-2020 10:55am

Love the Rock ( as does everyone) and we all know he’s an all time legend. While he seems like a pretty sound guy and I admire him for using his platform and status to endorse Biden/ Harris, I find a lot of his social media posts a bit grating. He seems like a genuine guy but his endless plugging Of his tequila and under armour stuff to a lesser extent is a bit in your face.

On a related note, it’s interesting how so many wrestlers won’t go beer anything political- with the exception of Rock, Zayn, Batista and maybe some others I’m not thinking of- WwE obviously have connections to the Trump administration, I wonder are they encouraged not to express political opinions via social media..

ShaneU · 28-09-2020 10:59am

Sirsok wrote: »

My mate rang me saying did yiu hear about Eddie Guerrero and I said yeah he is apparently going to win the title off Batista, then he ultimately told me the news.

Only like two weeks later WWE held a raw event in Ireland with Eddie chants ringing around the o2.

I was there, still the only WWE show I've been to. Angle vs HBK was great

sky88 · 28-09-2020 11:57am

TimesArrow wrote: »

Love the Rock ( as does everyone) and we all know he’s an all time legend. While he seems like a pretty sound guy and I admire him for using his platform and status to endorse Biden/ Harris, I find a lot of his social media posts a bit grating. He seems like a genuine guy but his endless plugging Of his tequila and under armour stuff to a lesser extent is a bit in your face.

On a related note, it’s interesting how so many wrestlers won’t go beer anything political- with the exception of Rock, Zayn, Batista and maybe some others I’m not thinking of- WwE obviously have connections to the Trump administration, I wonder are they encouraged not to express political opinions via social media..

Well if you look under the rocks post on Biden you’ll see that most of the comments are from trumpers saying there no longer fans or how disappointed they are in him I’d say just to avoid that

J. Marston · 28-09-2020 12:46pm

TimesArrow wrote: »

Love the Rock ( as does everyone) and we all know he’s an all time legend. While he seems like a pretty sound guy and I admire him for using his platform and status to endorse Biden/ Harris, I find a lot of his social media posts a bit grating. He seems like a genuine guy but his endless plugging Of his tequila and under armour stuff to a lesser extent is a bit in your face.

On a related note, it’s interesting how so many wrestlers won’t go beer anything political- with the exception of Rock, Zayn, Batista and maybe some others I’m not thinking of- WwE obviously have connections to the Trump administration, I wonder are they encouraged not to express political opinions via social media..

"Republicans buy sneakers too."

Lithium93_ · 28-09-2020 1:38pm

sky88 wrote: »

Well if you look under the rocks post on Biden you’ll see that most of the comments are from trumpers saying there no longer fans or how disappointed they are in him I’d say just to avoid that

What The Rock did, it didn't sit well with Val Venis apparently, who accused The Rock of being X, Y, Z.

grames_bond · 28-09-2020 2:56pm

sky88 wrote: »

Well if you look under the rocks post on Biden you’ll see that most of the comments are from trumpers saying there no longer fans or how disappointed they are in him I’d say just to avoid that

And now all the Q Anon posts saying that the Rock was actually executed by military tribunal and the cabal are using his likeness to get Biden elected.

Oh and he also eats babies!

xtal191 · 28-09-2020 5:58pm

I bet he was paid a ****load to come out in favour of Biden

Smacruairi · 28-09-2020 6:14pm

xtal191 wrote: »

I bet he was paid a ****load to come out in favour of Biden

Nah I'd say its more he is eyeing up a role in the dems in 4-8 years

PTH2009 · 28-09-2020 6:45pm

Vince was probably hard looking at Roman Reigns

Tbh great transformation

Blue_Dabadee · 29-09-2020 6:48am

When WrestleMania goes Hollywood next year they should still do movies parodies like they did with 21.

sky88 · 29-09-2020 9:12am

Anyone else find it strange when you see you see sky sports discuss tony khans comments my worlds colliding granted his Fulham looks to be one of the worst teams in a long time

https://youtu.be/VTea1WjJUws

Agent Coulson · 29-09-2020 7:39pm

I always feel Vince is missing a trick not hiring Bill Apter and have him doing a history of wrestling series with all the old footage mixed with his work for the Network.

The White Wolf · 29-09-2020 7:50pm

sky88 wrote: »

Anyone else find it strange when you see you see sky sports discuss tony khans comments my worlds colliding granted his Fulham looks to be one of the worst teams in a long time

https://youtu.be/VTea1WjJUws

I'd say Carra and Keane's heads would explode if they heard about Khan's other business. :pac:

sky88 · 29-09-2020 7:51pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

I'd say Carra and Keane's heads would explode if they heard about Khan's other business. :pac:

I need that to happen

PTH2009 · 29-09-2020 11:14pm

Who does the voice overs for some of the WWE stuff ??

Mainly the ads

beakerjoe · 02-10-2020 8:16am

sky88 wrote: »

I need that to happen

Gary Lineker hates promoting WWE on BT.

The utter hatred he has is undeniable.

'Im told Summerslam is the biggest party of the summer......ok'

B.A._Baracus · 02-10-2020 9:58am

beakerjoe wrote: »

Gary Lineker hates promoting WWE on BT.

The utter hatred he has is undeniable.

'Im told Summerslam is the biggest party of the summer......ok'

You would think he would be professional. Fair enough he doesn't like wrestling or thinks it's a load of garbage. Perfectly fine. But he is a presenter and being tasked with promoting a product that BT has paid good money for.

Says the lines. Push the product. Do your job and cash your check.

LineOfBeauty · 02-10-2020 10:34am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

You would think he would be professional. Fair enough he doesn't like wrestling or thinks it's a load of garbage. Perfectly fine. But he is a presenter and being tasked with promoting a product that BT has paid good money for.

Says the lines. Push the product. Do your job and cash your check.

To a normal human having to do WWE speak when it's an entirely alien concept, it's no wonder he finds it ludicrous. Delivering their verbiage with a straight face is a credit to Lineker if anything.

PTH2009 · 03-10-2020 6:11pm

reports saying

Edge vs Orton for the wwe title iis planned for the Main Event of Mania 37 with Edge been the rumble winner

Riddle101 · 03-10-2020 6:20pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

reports saying
Edge vs Orton for the wwe title iis planned for the Main Event of Mania 37 with Edge been the rumble winner

Sounds good. Orton has been killing it as a heel this year, and I wouldn't mind seeing Edge main event Wrestlemania. I don't think he's done that yet.

The White Wolf · 03-10-2020 6:32pm

That means the feud isn't over..:(

Agent Coulson · 03-10-2020 6:38pm

I see Edge admitted that his recovery isn't going as well has he expected which to be honest at 47 that's to be expected especially as he hasn't been an active athlete for nearly a decade his body is going to react different at that age than it did when he was 27/237.

Itssoeasy · 03-10-2020 7:16pm

So tonight is the 15th anniversary of the return of Monday night raw to USA network and one of, if not the first ever three hour raw episodes which nowadays are standard. I’ve decided I’m going to watch this tonight to take my mind off the real world.

Edit: this raw has the great 30 minute iron man match between kurt angle and hbk.

PTH2009 · 04-10-2020 12:10am

Anyone watch 350 days ?

Some headers on it and you can see how much being on the road ****ed them up

Itssoeasy · 04-10-2020 12:57am

I watched that episode of raw for about an hour and a half and I’m convinced that kurt angle and Shawn Michaels are unable to have a bad wrestling match.

CastorTroy · 07-10-2020 2:52pm

On this week's Impact Heath mentioned Raw and Drew and said he was offered a deal after his appearance.
Anyone know if there's any truth to this? Wonder what kind of deal

The White Wolf · 07-10-2020 4:47pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

On this week's Impact Heath mentioned Raw and Drew and said he was offered a deal after his appearance.
Anyone know if there's any truth to this? Wonder what kind of deal

Haven't a clue but fair play to him if he did, not many would bank on Impact being their stepping stone to big things.....and I say that as someone who enjoys Impact immensely.

Agent Coulson · 07-10-2020 4:56pm

Heath was trained by Mr Hughes now that is totally random for me.

beakerjoe · 09-10-2020 8:09am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Heath was trained by Mr Hughes now that is totally random for me.

Mr Hughes never looked like he was trained himself. Hes brutal.

PTH2009 · 09-10-2020 9:02pm

https://euroshop.wwe.com/en_IE/memorabilia-and-collectibles/

Those replica statues look tempting

Itssoeasy · 09-10-2020 9:29pm

20 years ago tonight we found out who ran down stone cold and also why that person did it. It was rikishi and he did it for “da rock” in one of the most anti climactic pay offs of a huge storyline. I know they added trips into it as being the master mind but it was a case of them needing a way to write Austin off tv but never really planned beyond that point.

B.A._Baracus · 09-10-2020 9:30pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Mr Hughes never looked like he was trained himself. Hes brutal.

Sorry for the long post

....

Wrestling training and who've you've been trained by is a weird one within the realm of the business.

Looking at it on the surface you would naturally think good wrestlers would produce good wrestlers and bad wrestlers would produce bad wrestlers. Sometimes that's true and sometimes it's not true. It's quite the "contradiction" for the lack of a better word. On the surface

On one hand you have a guy like Mr Hughes who never set the wrestling world alight with his career. Yet if you look at his CV he wrestled (starting notably from 1990) in wcw to WWF (1993) ECW (1993-1996)
Then back to WWF for 2 short stints in 1997 and 1999.

That says right there he was a decent hand. He knew and could pull off the fundamentals with good effect.

That's the weird thing about wrestling training too on the surface. A newbie or inexperienced person could look at Mr Hughes and think "what a loser no way am I training at his school" - yet he could teach you far more than Joe random at Joe Randoms school of wrestling.

Also, at the same time as a contradiction, even the most terrible of trainers can "produce" a tremendous wrestler (which in reality is nothing more than that person that being above the rest)
Yet you'll often find Joe random never did anything.

Confused yet? Lol.

Riddle101 · 10-10-2020 12:14am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Sorry for the long post ....

Wrestling training and who've you've been trained by is a weird one within the realm of the business.

Looking at it on the surface you would naturally think good wrestlers would produce good wrestlers and bad wrestlers would produce bad wrestlers. Sometimes that's true and sometimes it's not true. It's quite the "contradiction" for the lack of a better word. On the surface

On one hand you have a guy like Mr Hughes who never set the wrestling world alight with his career. Yet if you look at his CV he wrestled (starting notably from 1990) in wcw to WWF (1993) ECW (1993-1996)
Then back to WWF for 2 short stints in 1997 and 1999.

That says right there he was a decent hand. He knew and could pull off the fundamentals with good effect.

That's the weird thing about wrestling training too on the surface. A newbie or inexperienced person could look at Mr Hughes and think "what a loser no way am I training at his school" - yet he could teach you far more than Joe random at Joe Randoms school of wrestling.

Also, at the same time as a contradiction, even the most terrible of trainers can "produce" a tremendous wrestler (which in reality is nothing more than that person that being above the rest)
Yet you'll often find Joe random never did anything.

Confused yet? Lol.

Just to add to that, Jeff and Matt Hardy didn't recieve any training prior to starting in the business. They mostly taught themselves by setting up their own wrestling promotion and copying moves they saw on tv. They were later trained by Dory Funk Jr but that was after WWE signed them. Of course that being said, Jeff wasn't exactly known for his wrestling ability but they still built a career out of the stuff they did in the ring.

Also, Lance Storm and Chris Jericho were both trained at the Hart Brothers Wrestling Camp but the Harts never even trained them. They were trained by Ed Langley who was a referee and a local wrestler named Brad Young.

Itssoeasy · 10-10-2020 9:11pm

15 years ago today mickie James debuted on Monday night raw as the over enthusiastic fan of Trish stratus and we then got imo one of the best angles ever on wwe TV involving Trish and mickie and then the great match at mania with that great crowd in Chicago. I’m sure mickie regrets making that hand gesture though but still.

The White Wolf · 10-10-2020 9:24pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

15 years ago today mickie James debuted on Monday night raw as the over enthusiastic fan of Trish stratus and we then got imo one of the best angles ever on wwe TV involving Trish and mickie and then the great match at mania with that great crowd in Chicago. I’m sure mickie regrets making that hand gesture though but still.

A year or two ago I rewatched that feud and even then the sh1t Mickie was doing was risky. Pure dirt.

She's a pillar of the division and that's no understatement. I'd say one day she'll have some fascinating stories to share.

B.A._Baracus · 13-10-2020 9:51am

Seems Scott Hall is off the wagon again.
He was in some virtual meet and greet recently and one person in attendance said he was "intoxicated and being difficult". further details said how Hall "kept having issues with every inscription or request, and had issues with how rushed it felt" which led to the event getting the plug pulled early.

Hall is something else isn't he? He managed to squash his addictions with the help of DDP accordingly now back to his old ways.

J. Marston · 13-10-2020 5:41pm

JR is like the stereotypical old pervert...

https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ/status/1316060316976009217

beakerjoe · 13-10-2020 9:46pm

J. Marston wrote: »

JR is like the stereotypical old pervert...

https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ/status/1316060316976009217

Fcuk sake. Does he know what hes going at all.

He is an iconic voice no doubt, but hes past his prime and dragging AEW down with him. He was a choir to listen to at the last PPV.

Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

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