Formula 1 2020 - General Discussion Thread (See MOD warning on first post)

Lads, I'll let you in on a secret. Lewis plays politics. He has done this since monaco 07 and will be doing it until he's retired. He's deliberately said this to put pressure onto the FIA and it's worked by getting the points lifted.

Great win by Bottas yesterday, showed just how good he is this season by never even remotely challenging unless Lewis is severely penalised.

barryribs wrote: »

Lads, I'll let you in on a secret. Lewis plays politics. He has done this since monaco 07 and will be doing it until he's retired. He's deliberately said this to put pressure onto the FIA and it's worked by getting the points lifted.

Great win by Bottas yesterday, showed just how good he is this season by never even remotely challenging unless Lewis is severely penalised.

I think there might be a small bit of sense to what Lewis said. In the past the politics involved would mean rules were interpreted based on the driver and team. A high profile driver wouldn't be sanctioned for the same offense as a new driver. This came up in Monza when LeClerc's time was deleted for exceeding track limits.

The BBC guys commented that in the recent past, they wouldn't have deleted a ferrari time in monza. They would have Ben looking the other way and missed the infringement. Back then the world champion probably wouldn't have been penalised for breaking a small rule about where he did his practice starts.

The human (and the corrupt) element has been taken out of some of these decisions in recent years. But as we see by Lewis penalty points being removed, they still sometimes interpret the rules based on who the driver is and the consequences of the penalty.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Racing Point had some updated parts at this weekend. They only had one set and they decided to give them to Lance stroll. RP said the updates were major and we're worth 3-4tenths per lap.

Either the updates didn't work or RP picked the wrong car to put them on because without the updates Perez qualified and finished 4th. Stroll qualified 13 and crashed out on the first lap.

In case anyone's wondering, that's what favouring one driver over the other looks like. Not this Vettel-Ferrari conspiracy theory that Vettel is performing poorly therefore Ferrari is screwing him on purpose (even though it makes them look bad).

LeClerc qualified 11th and finished 6th.
Vettel qualified 15th and finished 13th.

Some of that is correct . Perez did out qualify stroll , but Didn't strolls car have a problem and he missed out Q2 (over heating I think ) . And he did crash out but more Knocked out by LeClerc after he had made up places at the start he was right up with Perez . Cannot really Judge here if the Upgrades worked here . They did appear to work Mugello .

Stroll missed the second run in q2 due to car problems and then was tagged by leclerc during the race

Vettel was made to run long to help leclerc.

flazio wrote: »

He's still McLarens last World Champion and they've had two other World Champions from other teams.
Look, we could go on forever trying to destroy Lewis Hamilton but it won't make much difference in the course of history.

So what?
Kimi is still Ferraris last wdc. What is that supposed to prove?

Someone mentioned it earlier, the weather in Germany could be a huge deal in 2 weeks. At the moment the long term weather forecast for next week says 11 degrees and rain every day.

What would happen if it's too cold for the tyres? Could they race in 11 degrees?

Just means the softs would last longer.


Might even see a 3 stopper,

Soft Medium Soft

"But that's OK. It's not like I haven't faced adversity before."

Can anyone really remember when Hamilton has had to face any of this before in his career? I am being honest here.

Started in F1 with McLaren, then to Merc with a car tailor made for the rules...I am struggling to think of a time. Maybe this is how he works his ego, he has to make up a struggle of sorts.

Gintonious wrote: »

Can anyone really remember when Hamilton has had to face any of this before in his career? I am being honest here.

Started in F1 with McLaren, then to Merc with a car tailor made for the rules...I am struggling to think of a time. Maybe this is how he works his ego, he has to make up a struggle of sorts.

There was that time in 2016 when his team-mate was allowed to race him, and was even allowed to have good mechanics, much to Lewis' dismay. They put a stop to that afterwards though.

Hamilton living rent free in plenty peoples heads it seems.

Gintonious wrote: »

Can anyone really remember when Hamilton has had to face any of this before in his career? I am being honest here.

Started in F1 with McLaren, then to Merc with a car tailor made for the rules...I am struggling to think of a time. Maybe this is how he works his ego, he has to make up a struggle of sorts.

Same as he is constantly moaning about his tyres, to give him some self belief that he is super human to win with a bad set. :rolleyes::pac:

duploelabs wrote: »

Partnering a defending double world champion in your rookie year of F1, and getting a podium on your first race would be fairly adversarial

In one of the best cars on the grid, straight into it. Such adversity.

recyclebin wrote: »

News just in, most drivers are moaners!!!! It's not specific to Hamilton. He just gets more coverage because he is English on an English TV channel and he could possibly become the most successful Formula 1 driver of all time.

Some posters on here need to get a grip. It's the pot calling the kettle black with all the moaning about Hamilton in the last few posts.

Lads here forgetting Max is always moaning as are nearly ALL the drivers, it's what they do. As for the Bottas love, he wouldn't win anything unless Hamilton is out.

Got to love the Finns for saying it like it is