Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Away With The Fairies · 21-09-2020 01:03PM

petes wrote: »

Are you actually going to answer the question that poster posed to you? Twice!

I cannot get over how people refuse to see what this virus can do and just dismiss the seriousness of it.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 01:04PM

Paddygreen wrote: »

People inside the m50 are less likely go on a booze tour of neighboring counties.

I’d love to be able to afford to do that, must be a lot of money up there

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 01:05PM

Cringe

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1308014248593891328?s=21

wellwhynot · 21-09-2020 01:07PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/05/29/italian-teen-receives-double-lung-transplant-after-his-lungs-are-burnt-out-from-the-coronavirus/

That looks like an excellent source!

tigger123 · 21-09-2020 01:07PM

You'd expect those supporting herd immunity would be hanging around ICU wards, actively trying to get the coronavirus, just to get themselves immune so they can then go do whatever they want.

If its the way forward, those brave souls should lead the charge head long into the virus and then let us know how they're getting on.

hotmail.com · 21-09-2020 01:08PM

All the restrictions, hardly any foreign travel, mask usage mandatory, pubs either closed or heavily restricted and then what happens.. cases rising rapidly anyway.

21-09-2020 01:09PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I cannot get over how people refuse to see what this virus can do and just dismiss the seriousness of it.

Its called perspective. People get sick all the time, people die all the time, and its not always Covid. Respect the virus, but live with it

21-09-2020 01:10PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

This from Sky News about a vaccine.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-only-one-in-10-to-be-protected-from-covid-19-in-first-year-of-vaccine-use-12072473

This is referencing 1 in 10 globally. Ultimately, even if its unfair, we are far far higher up the list of countries in line to get a vaccine. The EU has ordered hundreds of millions of doses from several different candidates. If there's a vaccine in 2021, we'll get it. Poor countries unfortunately will not.

Jim_Hodge · 21-09-2020 01:11PM

Hospital figures starting to show an increase

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0921/1166526-coronavirus-ireland/

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 01:11PM

tigger123 wrote: »

You'd expect those supporting herd immunity would be hanging around ICU wards, actively trying to get the coronavirus, just to get themselves immune so they can then go do whatever they want.

If its the way forward, those brave souls should lead the charge head long into the virus and then let us know how they're getting on.

I've seen some ridiculous posts from people that hold a myriad of differing opinion but congratulations your comment to-date is by far the most stupid I have read here.

Loafing Oaf · 21-09-2020 01:11PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

See a therapist. Unhinged.

No

Theboinkmaster · 21-09-2020 01:12PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I cannot get over how people refuse to see what this virus can do and just dismiss the seriousness of it.

I think most people can see how serious it can be for some, but the majority it does not impact significantly

It makes no sense to lock down 95% of the population who it does not seriously impact, to protect the other 5%.

Need to protect the vulnerable and crack on - lockdowns will kill a lot more than the actual virus.

We locked the country down in March and now where are we? Pretty much back where we were....

petes · 21-09-2020 01:14PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I cannot get over how people refuse to see what this virus can do and just dismiss the seriousness of it.

I can't get over how you can't answer a simple question?

Widdensushi · 21-09-2020 01:18PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Prospect of early beers?

I miss those early beers

eagle eye · 21-09-2020 01:20PM

Another lockdown is coming, it looks unavoidable at this stage I think.

hotmail.com · 21-09-2020 01:21PM

Younger people don't see the virus as serious because from day 1 the government made it clear that it only really affects older people and people with underlying health issues.

The government is to blame regarding the attitude of some people towards the virus.

GooglePlus · 21-09-2020 01:22PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’d trust Trump before I’d trust Sky News, to be honest

So you'd trust Trump over a study carried out by the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), a board of scientists and vaccine investors that would be at the forefront of discussions on the Covid vaccine rollout?

Did you even bother reading into the article or were you just happy to shut it down as it didn't fit your narrative, as usual?

D.Q · 21-09-2020 01:23PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Another lockdown is coming, it looks unavoidable at this stage I think.

Organising a zoom quiz for next Friday. Giddy with anticipation

GooglePlus · 21-09-2020 01:24PM

AdamD wrote: »

This is referencing 1 in 10 globally. Ultimately, even if its unfair, we are far far higher up the list of countries in line to get a vaccine. The EU has ordered hundreds of millions of doses from several different candidates. If there's a vaccine in 2021, we'll get it. Poor countries unfortunately will not.

You're missing the point. We might have ordered, but the production lines won't handle such vast amounts of demand. Regardless of the order locked in, we won't get it all in one go.

Away With The Fairies · 21-09-2020 01:24PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

I think most people can see how serious it can be for some, but the majority it does not impact significantly

It makes no sense to lock down 95% of the population who it does not seriously impact, to protect the other 5%.

Need to protect the vulnerable and crack on - lockdowns will kill a lot more than the actual virus.

We locked the country down in March and now where are we? Pretty much back where we were....

We were not talking about lockdowns. We were talking about herd immunity.

Theboinkmaster · 21-09-2020 01:26PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

We were not talking about lockdowns. We were talking about herd immunity.

Do you disagree with anything I've said? I'm talking about COVID-19.

spookwoman · 21-09-2020 01:26PM

ixoy wrote: »

Nobody wants to take on the incredible inefficiency in the HSE. It'd require likely a lot of lay offs to start with as part of a structural reform and nobody can stomach that battle as the HSE would grind to a halt. At best a plan could be put in place to not re-fill some bureaucratic posts as retirements and so on come up but that'll take a long time.

Need someone with a backbone to take it on and clean it out. There is a serious problem with too many pencil pushers and not enough front line staff.

Hurrache · 21-09-2020 01:26PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

We locked the country down in March and now where are we?

You tell us

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

lockdowns will kill a lot more than the actual virus.

How many died because of the lockdown in comparison with the virus, must be at least 2,000?

Hector Savage · 21-09-2020 01:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

One the vulnerable and healthcare workers are vaccinated, the approach will definitely be to let it ride

You think once the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated, they will remove quarantines ?
My thinking is the restrictions are mainly so hospitals won't collapse, if the above is done then it's unlikely they will be overwhelmed - so in theory no real need for restrictions ...

Hurrache · 21-09-2020 01:27PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Younger people don't see the virus as serious because from day 1 the government made it clear that it only really affects older people and people with underlying health issues.

The government is to blame regarding the attitude of some people towards the virus.

Can't blame our government, or any, as the virus was new and little was known about it, and even know there's so many unknowns.

eagle eye · 21-09-2020 01:33PM

Hector Savage wrote:

You think once the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated, they will remove quarantines ? My thinking is the restrictions are mainly so hospitals won't collapse, if the above is done then it's unlikely they will be overwhelmed - so in theory no real need for restrictions ...

This is exactly what's going on. They don't care so long as the hospitals can handle it. We are heading to a situation where that won't be possible in maybe a months time.

DangerScouse · 21-09-2020 01:34PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Younger people don't see the virus as serious because from day 1 the government made it clear that it only really affects older people and people with underlying health issues.

The government is to blame regarding the attitude of some people towards the virus.

Nah personal responsibility seems to have gone out the window for a lot of people. You see it all around you in society even well before the virus was on our doorsteps.

eagle eye · 21-09-2020 01:34PM

Hurrache wrote:

Can't blame our government, or any, as the virus was new and little was known about it, and even know there's so many unknowns.

Well when you look at New Zealand and how well they've done under a great leader then you can look at your own government and blame them

Wingman2010 · 21-09-2020 01:36PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

I miss those early beers

We all do. I think they may have got to the source of the leak.

21-09-2020 01:36PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

You're missing the point. We might have ordered, but the production lines won't handle such vast amounts of demand. Regardless of the order locked in, we won't get it all in one go.

I'm not, I'm saying its going to hit the poorer nations.

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