Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

screamer · 15-09-2020 01:11PM

Dither dither dither dither Batman.....
Batman and Robin there on fire with clarity around the restrictions and no guts to put Dublin into a higher level. Just more dither, fudge and spoof.
These additional extra blah blah measures just muddy the water and make it more difficult to comply with, as there’s so many exceptions to everything. Hang tight and keep that big red phone handy, we’re in for a rough winter in terms of usual pressure on healthcare and deaths, even outside of covid19

Hawthorn Tree · 15-09-2020 01:11PM

robbiezero wrote: »

Have hotel booked outside Dublin next week.
Will be going.

I get claustrophobic when trapped between levels.

You will feel like you are in the movie Inception.

ninebeanrows · 15-09-2020 01:12PM

They won’t put Dublin on level 3 as there is no way it is palatable to close restaurants and food bars , it would be crippling and the final nail for many in the industry

Or are they allowed open in level 3? I’m confused

Busi_Girl08 · 15-09-2020 01:13PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

According to RTE, next review Oct 4th

I'm due a weekend break in Waterford on the 9th.

On the one hand I'm bricking it that travel will be restricted, on the other hand, today just convinced me that they haven't the bottle to begin to even try to enforce it.

Gadgetman496 · 15-09-2020 01:14PM

niallo27 · 15-09-2020 01:15PM

Lads I'm on holiday in gakway, everyone wearing masks, weather is beautiful. Place is packed. The world is not ending. Things are not that bad out there after all.

seamus · 15-09-2020 01:15PM

ixoy wrote: »

Not going by this:

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1305836209885904896

Ah, I missed that one.
The idea here is to minimise close contacts for everyone in Dublin regardless, but they should have just gone to level 3.

Or indeed the ever-clear document:

To be fair, that is clear.

At home, you can have six people indoors or outdoors.
Away from home, you can have six indoors or 15 outdoors.

AMKC · 15-09-2020 01:15PM

My God is Micheal Martin boring. Varadker was a much better speaker. I missed this on live. Just catching up now.

Widdensushi · 15-09-2020 01:16PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Lads I'm on holiday in gakway, everyone wearing masks, weather is beautiful. Place is packed. The world is not ending. Things are not that bad out there after all.

Enjoy, put away the phone

Boggles · 15-09-2020 01:16PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

According to RTE, next review Oct 4th

Will be well our way to 300+ infections a day by then.

Hawthorn Tree · 15-09-2020 01:16PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Lads I'm on holiday in gakway, everyone wearing masks, weather is beautiful. Place is packed. The world is not ending. Things are not that bad out there after all.

Go home yank

Hurrache · 15-09-2020 01:16PM

Donnelly on RTE News saying he's hearing the opposition on this, this being the confusion as to what Dublin's at.

It's nothing to do with the opposition, it's all down to him.

JP Liz V1 · 15-09-2020 01:17PM

Kimbot wrote: »

And the first rule of the plan is to not talk about the plan.

That explains our government then

funnydoggy · 15-09-2020 01:17PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Lads I'm on holiday in gakway, everyone wearing masks, weather is beautiful. Place is packed. The world is not ending. Things are not that bad out there after all.

Same in Kerry a few weeks ago. You'd forget everything, it's lovely!

Dempo1 · 15-09-2020 01:19PM

Give it an hour, Leo won't be able to help himself and throw some spanner in the works.

Love the notion of 2 & a bit level, specially for Dublin.

My initial take on this terribly exciting plan? Absolutely nothing is new, nothing, Zilch, Nada. It's seems 200, 300 new cases a day, not at all a concern. Just bizzare stuff, thankfully however, Eaomon Ryan not in attendance, that would have been just unbearable.

TonyMaloney · 15-09-2020 01:19PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

According to RTE, net review Oct 4th

Boggles wrote: »

Will be well our way to 300+ infections a day by then.

I can't believe that will be the case.

19 days at 5% case growth per day will mean a large increase by the time the review takes places.

108 cases in Dublin yesterday. 19 days at 5% growth would see us notifying over 270 cases assuming an equivalent day of testing.
And that 5% isn't static either. Could get worse.

They're going to have to perform an embarrassing u-turn very soon and put Dublin on level 3 or risk losing any semblance of control.

Mantis Toboggan · 15-09-2020 01:20PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Never in thirteen threads have I seen complete agreement on every single issue. Not even during Golf Gate. Well done government, you've done what I never thought was possible - united the people.

I think it's clear the government have badly failed us. Not only FF and FG but also the greens. Any chance they'd piss off and give someone else a go.

seamus · 15-09-2020 01:20PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

They won’t put Dublin on level 3 as there is no way it is palatable to close restaurants and food bars , it would be crippling and the final nail for many in the industry

Or are they allowed open in level 3? I’m confused

Oh wait, I take it all back. The plan isn't as clear as it first appears.

In level 3, under the heading of "Bars, cafes & restaurants", they simply say, "Additional restrictions for indoor dining".

Which would lead one to believe they can open, but perhaps table sizes have to be reduced to 2, or 4 or something.

But in the overview at the top, they state that pubs will be closed, and indoor dining in restaurants not permitted.

What a mess. Two weeks they were working on this, and this is what we get. FFS.

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 01:21PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Donnelly on RTE News saying he's hearing the opposition on this, this being the confusion as to what Dublin's at.

It's nothing to do with the opposition, it's all down to him.

Yeah listening to this now, blaming the opposition for confusion and essentially deflecting to NPHET.

Its fućk all to do with the opposition

JP Liz V1 · 15-09-2020 01:22PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Lads I'm on holiday in gakway, everyone wearing masks, weather is beautiful. Place is packed. The world is not ending. Things are not that bad out there after all.

Enjoy, have a few Galway Hookers

caveat emptor · 15-09-2020 01:23PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

So Dubliners are "strongly advised" to stay in Dublin.

That will put the fear of God into the thousands who will head to Bray this weekend.

Busi_Girl08 · 15-09-2020 01:23PM

seamus wrote: »

Oh wait, I take it all back. The plan isn't as clear as it first appears.

In level 3, under the heading of "Bars, cafes & restaurants", they simply say, "Additional restrictions for indoor dining".

Which would lead one to believe they can open, but perhaps table sizes have to be reduced to 2, or 4 or something.

But in the overview at the top, they state that pubs will be closed, and indoor dining in restaurants not permitted.

What a mess. Two weeks they were working on this, and this is what we get. FFS.

I interpreted it as more a LOKdown style set-up, where restaurants/dining is restricted to food served outdoors and takeaway only.

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 01:24PM

Donnelly asked about delays in testing and he's saying oh that could be down to us not having the correct contact details or not being able to get in touch with them for a test.

Utter load of nonsense

podgeandrodge · 15-09-2020 01:24PM

I have Irish holidays from end sept to mid October. So now I'm wondering what to do, or what I'm supposed to do. Cancel all the accomodation (even though Govt was encouraging us to staycation) or ignore and go. Would like to hear their "advice" for those with current bookings elsewhere in the country.

stockshares · 15-09-2020 01:24PM

You can download the plan here.

Pages 11-14 have it condensed into a more readable table format.

They would be better off posting this out rather than holding those press briefings with the three windbags.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/e5175-resilience-and-recovery-2020-2021-plan-for-living-with-covid-19/

15-09-2020 01:25PM

fits wrote: »

ONE IS ESSENTIAL AND ONE IS NOT!

I can’t believe people are still asking these questions.

Regarding social activity.

Absolutely schools are essential - but this is a 6-9 month plan when we're already 6 months into the issue, surely at some point we must consider social activity somewhat essential?

It can't be expected that people severely limit social activity for 15 months, it just won't happen. This plan has a max of 3 households regardless in the best case scenario level.

ZX7R · 15-09-2020 01:25PM

Well done to the Irish government on there plan
You even made onto polish state news.
Where iit was being discussed by a panel
News caster turns to one of the panel and asked what the meaning of something was the panelist turns and said I really don't understand it , the news caster asked you don't understand the wording he replied no I understand the wording very well but I don't understand there plans it's doesn't make sense and is contradictory

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 01:27PM

ZX7R wrote: »

Well done to the Irish government on there plan
You even made onto polish state news.
Where iit was being discussed by a panel
News caster turns to one of the panel and asked what the meaning of something was the panelist turns and said I really don't understand it , the news caster asked you don't understand the wording he replied no I understand the wording very well but I don't understand there plans it's doesn't make sense and is contradictory

They aren't the only ones.

Donnelly on radio 1 now saying the confusion is coming from the opposition

Kimbot · 15-09-2020 01:27PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Donnelly asked about delays in testing and he's saying oh that could be down to us not having the correct contact details or not being able to get in touch with them for a test.

Utter load of nonsense

Its beyond nonsense, my son was referred for a test last Monday. I rang all day Tuesday/Wednesday and I was told I would get a call back as I wanted to get a test myself so I could return to work. Thankfully my son got his test on Thursday and got the all clear on Saturday but I still have had no contact from them.

tigger123 · 15-09-2020 01:27PM

No worse than a flu, my ar3e.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/covid-and-the-brain-this-has-taken-almost-everything-that-is-me-away-from-me-1.4343793

From the article:

"Like the thousands of others who continue to experience debilitating cognitive dysfunction associated with long-Covid, Järte is fearful that her brain will never return to normal."

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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