Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

ThunbergsAreGo · 15-09-2020 12:38PM

MAXFANTANA wrote: »

Level 5 says schools are open?

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Either its contagious or its not.

How is having 30 kids in a class room less dangerous than me having 8 mates around to watch the football........

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 12:38PM

Large confusion on pubs still, advice for Dublin is its level 2 but pubs open in level 3 as per the plan.

So its picking and choosing certain points, its very mixed messaging.

Dublin pubs will probably open up Monday anyway and just team up with a takeaway nearby. Everyone in Dublin knows a pub you can go to anyway without the meal

hynesie08 · 15-09-2020 12:38PM

IRE60 wrote: »

That tweet is wrong - in the plan there is no distinction made for social gatherings dublin/outside dublin - where is she coming from

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/18e18-level-2/#social-and-family-gatherings

Donnelly literally said that Dublin is different. 1 household visiting yours.

Busi_Girl08 · 15-09-2020 12:38PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Can a Dublin person travel out of Dublin now

yay or nay?

Looks like there's no change to domestic travel, but give it a few days for Dublin.

IRE60 · 15-09-2020 12:38PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Can a Dublin person travel out of Dublin now

yay or nay?

Dublin playing Westmeath away on 7th November - so yea!

hmmm · 15-09-2020 12:38PM

What I don't understand about what has been announced is how the very minor measures announced are supposed to reverse the trend in Dublin?

The people having house-parties and birthday-parties are not paying a blind bit of attention to the existing restrictions, so tightening them does nothing. It smacks of doing something for the sake of looking like you are doing something - I wouldn't be happy if I worked in an ICU.

I don't support the "Dublin lockdown" which some seem to be salivating at the thought of, but there has to be something relatively substantial to change the trajectory of cases.

polesheep · 15-09-2020 12:38PM

Downlinz wrote: »

https://twitter.com/colettebrowne/status/1305830990686883842

Do they actually believe that most people give this nonsense even a moment's thought?

sweet-rasmus · 15-09-2020 12:38PM

What a joke. The Taoiseach opening with “Good afternoon” when was still morning time (11.40am) was the first indication that this announcement was a load of waffle without clear information.

Martin: “We are managing as a country to keep this virus down” :rolleyes:

We need real leadership!

DangerScouse · 15-09-2020 12:39PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Exactly, we're going to stop Dublin's increasing numbers by carrying on exactly the same.

Not one at this stage is actually going to listen to the household advice.

Why would they? We've no leadership, none.

Iv'e been abiding by the guidelines from day one being extra careful but there is no repercussions for anyone breaking them.

Dublin at the same level as some small town in the middle of Donegal or Roscommon is laughable.

caveat emptor · 15-09-2020 12:39PM

There's going to be a boom in disco bus bookings. The skerries crew raised awareness that it's a thing and now you'll have hoards of young adults booking them and breaking for the county boarder. I love that we live in a free country.

iamwhoiam · 15-09-2020 12:39PM

Seamai wrote: »

I would imagine one household only at all. What would be the point of say the mother Mary having Brigid from next door around for coffee in the morning, 8 year old Luke having a play date with his bestie straight after school. Sinéad aged 12 has her friend around for a study session at 5pm and Dad Dave's buddy calls aound with a 6 pack in the evening. You could have 4 different households there which quadruples the chance of infection but because they are all at different times people think everything is OK.

Well Clare Byrne putting a different interpretation on it . She is saying one household at a time

fits · 15-09-2020 12:40PM

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Either its contagious or its not.

How is having 30 kids in a class room less dangerous than me having 8 mates around to watch the football........

ONE IS ESSENTIAL AND ONE IS NOT!

I can’t believe people are still asking these questions.

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 12:41PM

The famous page 15 clarifies absolutely nothing

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1305833179132067842?s=19

duffman13 · 15-09-2020 12:41PM

Had a staycation in Galway and booked into a pub on Saturday at 8, was absolutely full of other Dubs, minimum time not enforced and social distance was a bit of a joke. Staff tried to keep people in seats etc but it was rough. The government have screwed this up royally today and actually created way way more confusion through this plan to remove confusion. Crazy stuff

Dayor Knight · 15-09-2020 12:41PM

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Either its contagious or its not.

How is having 30 kids in a class room less dangerous than me having 8 mates around to watch the football........

1. Kids don't transmit so much.

2. Education more important than than you and your mates watching football.

MerlinSouthDub · 15-09-2020 12:42PM

hmmm wrote: »

What I don't understand about what has been announced is how the very minor measures announced are supposed to reverse the trend in Dublin?

The people having house-parties and birthday-parties are not paying a blind bit of attention to the existing restrictions, so tightening them does nothing. It smacks of doing something for the sake of looking like you are doing something - I wouldn't be happy if I worked in an ICU.

I don't support the "Dublin lockdown" which some seem to be salivating at the thought of, but there has to be something relatively substantial to change the trajectory of cases.

I think it is very tricky. What would you suggest as a substantial measure in Dublin?

Gadgetman496 · 15-09-2020 12:42PM

Dubliners strongly advised to stay within their county

caveat emptor · 15-09-2020 12:42PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

There's going to be a boom in disco bus bookings. The skerries crew raised awareness that it's a thing and now you'll have hoards of young adults booking them and breaking for the county boarder. I love that we live in a free country.

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 12:43PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1305834204408811520?s=19

polesheep · 15-09-2020 12:43PM

Seamai wrote: »

I would imagine one household only at all. What would be the point of say the mother Mary having Brigid from next door around for coffee in the morning, 8 year old Luke having a play date with his bestie straight after school. Sinéad aged 12 has her friend around for a study session at 5pm and Dad Dave's buddy calls aound with a 6 pack in the evening. You could have 4 different households there which quadruples the chance of infection but because they are all at different times people think everything is OK.

The vast majority of people are not Covid anoraks. I can assure you that Mary, Brigid, Luke, Luke's bestie, Dave and Dave's buddy aren't even going to think about the limits, never mind try to work them out.

15-09-2020 12:43PM

fits wrote: »

ONE IS ESSENTIAL AND ONE IS NOT!

I can’t believe people are still asking these questions.

But level 4 is more restrictive for schools than level 5??

hynesie08 · 15-09-2020 12:43PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Large confusion on pubs still, advice for Dublin is its level 2 but pubs open in level 3 as per the plan.

So its picking and choosing certain points, its very mixed messaging.

Dublin pubs will probably open up Monday anyway and just team up with a takeaway nearby. Everyone in Dublin knows a pub you can go to anyway without the meal

Go to a local cheesemonger, get 4 types and a vegan cheese, buy assorted meats in lidl and whip up a cheeseboard for 3 euro, charge 9 and sure if you throw the regulars a pint or two on the house with it, what's the harm.

I genuinely hope every pub that is able to uses the governments own guidelines to **** them over now.

Morrison J · 15-09-2020 12:44PM

duffman13 wrote: »

Had a staycation in Galway and booked into a pub on Saturday at 8, was absolutely full of other Dubs, minimum time not enforced and social distance was a bit of a joke. Staff tried to keep people in seats etc but it was rough. The government have screwed this up royally today and actually created way way more confusion through this plan to remove confusion. Crazy stuff

That sounds more like the pub screwing up for their own gain rather than government tbh. Most pubs are working off the guidelines. There's no excuse not to at this point.

Seamai · 15-09-2020 12:44PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Well Clare Byrne putting a different interpretation on it . She is saying one household at a time

I think this needs more clarifying, if people think the example I've outlined is OK, Dublin is only going to see numbers increasing.

Pitch n Putt · 15-09-2020 12:44PM

Here’s a plan

Close all testing centres and stop testing for this virus

Cases go away and country reopens as normal.

Simple really.

Maybe not a great plan but as much detail there and clear plan unlike the mish mash horsesh1t that’s just been announced.

DangerScouse · 15-09-2020 12:44PM

I thought the point of a press conference today was to clear things up?

I thought wrong.

ixoy · 15-09-2020 12:44PM

Seamai wrote: »

You could have 4 different households there which quadruples the chance of infection but because they are all at different times people think everything is OK.

But it reduces the chance of them all infecting each other, which is the point. At worst the infection will only pass from one household to another rather than three other households.

drunkmonkey · 15-09-2020 12:45PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Dubliners strongly advised to stay within their county

It's nothing but advice, take it or leave it. Nothing underpinned by any law except for masks from what I can see.

wellwhynot · 15-09-2020 12:45PM

I am in Dublin and I do not know one single solitary case outside of a nursing home. Not one. Come on FF/FG tell us how many cases are actually sick with Covid and how many are just an asymptomatic, positive test. Give us these figures or you will lose support with this.

bennyl10 · 15-09-2020 12:45PM

So those in Dublin are not recommended to travel outside the county, but there's no measure to actually stop this happening?

Is this a joke

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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