Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

JasonStatham · 09-09-2020 9:28pm #1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-84-new-cases-three-deaths-amid-warning-dublin-infections-may-double-in-fortnight-1.4350710%3fmode=amp

The above makes for worrying reading. Reproduction number at 1.4. Worrying stuff. Perhaps it's time for a Dublin lockdown. What do you think?

biko · 09-09-2020 9:36pm

I have thought so since 2005

odyssey06 · 09-09-2020 9:40pm

Shut Dublin airport train stations too.
Dublin for Dubliners.

They dont seem keen to repeat Kildare type restrictions in Dublin.
But I would not expect pubs to open on 21st.

theguzman · 09-09-2020 9:46pm

Dublin will "very likely" be locked down on Friday according to the Irish Post.

https://www.irishpost.com/news/dublin-and-limerick-lockdown-very-likely-with-decision-due-by-friday-192447

forumdedum · 09-09-2020 10:57pm

What % of cases per 100,000 caused Kildare etc to be locked down?

biko · 09-09-2020 10:59pm

Lockdown sucks but I don't think there is a good alternative for a large city until there is a vaccine, for now.

tobefrank321 · 09-09-2020 11:00pm

forumdedum wrote: »

What % of cases per 100,000 caused Kildare etc to be locked down?

Not sure that's relevant. If it takes off in Dublin its likely to spread rapidly to other counties as people travel home from work or for the weekend.

I think we can safely say pubs won't open in Dublin on 21st and universities in Dublin will be online only. That was probably going to be the case anyways.

Van.Bosch · 09-09-2020 11:00pm

No chance of an April style lockdown, maybe tougher limits in gatherings though.

Harry Palmr · 09-09-2020 11:02pm

Keep Dubs (actual and residents from elsewhere) in Dublin should be the approach with obviously no one else actually going up there.

LeBash · 09-09-2020 11:04pm

Some UCD (I think) professor was on newstalk and said the majority of the new cases were in West Dublin and that we should lock down that area.

Hopefully if anymore lockdowns are called its for the right reason and an unemotional decision.

nthclare · 09-09-2020 11:04pm

Some will have the privelage to travel West and put their feet up in their holiday homes...

Xtrail14 · 09-09-2020 11:05pm

The whole country will be locked down before Dublin does. Think about it.

gimli2112 · 09-09-2020 11:06pm

do we have the same problem as the UK with all the young people spreading it?
You got to love the tories of distraction and misdirection.

bobbyy gee · 09-09-2020 11:07pm

they should make an exception for golf tournaments and dinners

09-09-2020 11:07pm

The cases in Dublin are mainly due to house gatherings.

Locking down will only amplify the problem.

Whether we like it or not, people want to socialise with normality. The only place you can really do that now is at home.

Closing businesses will solve nothing.

TheBlackPill · 09-09-2020 11:08pm

biko wrote: »

Lockdown sucks but I don't think there is a good alternative for a large city until there is a vaccine, for now.

Lockdown Dublin. Have hordes of them launch co-ordinated breakouts to go shopping in Kildare village or holiday in kerry. Would be much smarter to spread stories in the media of a new super virus riddling all us culchies

CBear1993 · 09-09-2020 11:12pm

No more lockdowns.

The virus is here. And will be here after another lockdown.

It’s time to live with it and get on with our lives.

Can’t keep going for a lockdown all the time, there are bigger things at risk now like our economy, people’s well-being, education etc

Our government aren’t competent, information from them has been littered with grey areas and ambiguity.

They’ve already overacted using the virus for an excuse to take more control on us than they need to, with idiotic contradictory measures.

Enough is enough. We’ll wear masks and do the best we can all of us. But no more being locked up. I honestly don’t think people will fully comply this time if it did come to it, apart from the people who watch nothing but the news and think our leaders are “great”.

GT89 · 09-09-2020 11:13pm

Time to end this talk of more lockdown/restrictions. Allow the pubs to open not on the 21st September but tommorrow. Where are they coming out wit the 21st September from will the virus be less deadly after that date? A Dublin lockdown is a riddiculous idea.

It is to end all restrictions not when cases come down or there is a vaccine but in a matter of days and weeks at the most and introduce measures to protect the vulnerable as it is clear the virus is not serious for healthy people. But no instead the government want more restrictions despite the fact no one is dying and the virus is not as deadly as once thought.

biko · 09-09-2020 11:13pm

We will need a wall, and Dublin will pay for it.

RobbingBandit · 09-09-2020 11:13pm

MDGA WDEG AFIBD

MakeDublinGreatAgain

WasDublinEverGreat

Ah****ItBurnDublin

SEPT 23 1989 · 09-09-2020 11:16pm

Dublin will only be locked down again when the health service is at the point of total collapse

That's how important we are

Never forget that

Hurrache · 09-09-2020 11:19pm

LeBash wrote: »

Some UCD (I think) professor was on newstalk and said the majority of the new cases were in West Dublin and that we should lock down that area.

Hopefully if anymore lockdowns are called its for the right reason and an unemotional decision.

He was wrong though, it's Dublin South East isn't it.

Hurrache · 09-09-2020 11:22pm

biko wrote: »

We will need a wall, and Dublin will pay for it.

We used to have one, culchies broke it down centuries ago. Everyone wanted a piece of the pale.

AMKC · 09-09-2020 11:22pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

do we have the same problem as the UK with all the young people spreading it?
You got to love the tories of distraction and misdirection.

Over a third of Covid cases in Dublin is young people under the age of 25. I day lock down some of Dublin but not all of it. So leave South Dublin they seem to be good but the Dublin North west and Dublin South East need to be locked down. They have a high number of cases.

hognef · 09-09-2020 11:23pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Shut Dublin airport train stations too.

There are train stations at the airport?

theguzman · 09-09-2020 11:26pm

hognef wrote: »

There are train stations at the airport?

A lack of ,

tobefrank321 · 09-09-2020 11:26pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Dublin will only be locked down again when the health service is at the point of total collapse

That's how important we are

Never forget that

Its either a lockdown in Dublin or it runs completely out of control there. Take your pick. Nothing to do with importance.

Man with broke phone · 09-09-2020 11:27pm

Build the hospital beds, buy the respirators, multiply testing, cant lockdown again. The kids arnt scared of it anymore. Lock grannies and grandads down and people with a bmi of above obese and all the other dangerous cases.

Its people on the social or in school want the lockdown because there will be no jobs to go to after another one.

biko · 09-09-2020 11:27pm

I hope the lockdown will be televised.

AMKC · 09-09-2020 11:27pm

GT89 wrote: »

Time to end this talk of more lockdown/restrictions. Allow the pubs to open not on the 21st September but tommorrow. Where are they coming out wit the 21st September from will the virus be less deadly after that date? A Dublin lockdown is a riddiculous idea.

It is to end all restrictions not when cases come down or there is a vaccine but in a matter of days and weeks at the most and introduce measures to protect the vulnerable as it is clear the virus is not serious for healthy people. But no instead the government want more restrictions despite the fact no one is dying and the virus is not as deadly as once thought.

It is to give Pubs time to restock and get workers back. They can't just open like that without any stock to sell. They have made a loss doing it 3 times already. So maybe they will be lucky the 4th time.

GT89 · 09-09-2020 11:28pm

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Its either a lockdown in Dublin or it runs completely out of control there. Take your pick. Nothing to do with importance.

Does it matter if it runs out of control as it is clear it is not a very deadly virus

Hurrache · 09-09-2020 11:29pm

AMKC wrote: »

Over a third of Covid cases in Dublin is young people under the age of 25. I day lock down some of Dublin but not all of it. So leave South Dublin they seem to be good but the Dublin North west and Dublin South East need to be locked down. They have a high number of cases.

You can't draw arbitrary lines throughout the county, it wouldn't work.

Risteard81 · 09-09-2020 11:30pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

We’ll wear masks

Absolutely not ever. Over my dead body.

gimli2112 · 09-09-2020 11:30pm

GT89 wrote: »

Does it matter if it runs out of control as it is clear it is not a very deadly virus

4% is a relatively low mortality rate, until it's someone you know

GT89 · 09-09-2020 11:31pm

AMKC wrote: »

It is to give Pubs time to restock and get workers back. They can't just open like that without any stock to sell. They have made a loss doing it 3 times already. So maybe they will be lucky the 4th time.

I said they should be allowed to reopen tommorrow. Each induvidual publican can make his/her mind up as to when it is appropriate to reopen.

GT89 · 09-09-2020 11:34pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

4% is a relatively low mortality rate, until it's someone you know

How many of that 4% of people who die from it died of Covid 19 and Covid 19 alone.

SouthWesterly · 09-09-2020 11:34pm

biko wrote: »

We will need a wall, and Dublin will pay for it.

Dublin had a wall and it got knocked down. BArbarians at the gates etc

Atlantic Dawn · 09-09-2020 11:35pm

If I was at the wheel I'd let a few counties go with the Swedish approach and see how they get on over 3 months compared to the rest of the country. At the end of the day you can't compare living conditions in Dublin with say Leitrim, it's a completely different level of human congestion and interaction.

Hurrache · 09-09-2020 11:35pm

GT89 wrote: »

How many of that 4% of people who die from it died of Covid 19 and Covid 19 alone.

Here goes another thread...

UrbanSprawl · 09-09-2020 11:36pm

No its not its Dublin goes under ya all do

tobefrank321 · 09-09-2020 11:37pm

GT89 wrote: »

Does it matter if it runs out of control as it is clear it is not a very deadly virus

Personally I'm divided on whether its serious or not.

But I don't make the decisions that count. And the evidence is Nphet, etc are lockdown happy and want to keep a lid on it. So if they do want to keep a lid on it, a 2 week lockdown of Dublin now would be preferable to a 2 month one later if it gets completely out of control.

Or they could just follow the Sweden model of living with it and hope for the best.

GT89 · 09-09-2020 11:37pm

Why is Covid not a problem in Africa? Because Africa doesn't have an economy worth crashing.

Hurrache · 09-09-2020 11:39pm

GT89 wrote: »

Why is Covid not a problem in Africa? Because Africa doesn't have an economy worth crashing.

There's enough threads for that crap already.

Atlantic Dawn · 09-09-2020 11:39pm

GT89 wrote: »

Why is Covid not a problem in Africa? Because Africa doesn't have an economy worth crashing.

Low level of testing, low level of obesity and the unwell, means very few deaths that can be "linked" to it. The place could be riddled with it and nobody would really know.

Kylta · 09-09-2020 11:40pm

biko wrote: »

I hope the lockdown will be televised.

I hope my television licence fee is paying for it. The pilot they showed for the first episode was crap, they'd no cast, the streets were empty, and they ran over budget. Hopefully the next lockdown will have a few zombies or green party members in it.

UrbanSprawl · 09-09-2020 11:47pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Low level of testing, low level of obesity and the unwell, means very few deaths that can be "linked" to it. The place could be riddled with it and nobody would really know.

and who apart from WHO would give a **** let them get on with it as we will

Atlantic Dawn · 09-09-2020 11:53pm

UrbanSprawl wrote: »

and who apart from WHO would give a **** let them get on with it as we will

There's also very few countries there that will blow billions on some snake oil vaccine that you will have to top up on regularly like credit on a phone.

CBear1993 · 09-09-2020 11:59pm

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Personally I'm divided on whether its serious or not.

But I don't make the decisions that count. And the evidence is Nphet, etc are lockdown happy and want to keep a lid on it. So if they do want to keep a lid on it, a 2 week lockdown of Dublin now would be preferable to a 2 month one later if it gets completely out of control.

Or they could just follow the Sweden model of living with it and hope for the best.

How are Sweden getting on all things considered? Genuinely haven’t looked at them in ages.

Harry Palmr · 09-09-2020 11:59pm

Well that didn't take too long....

John_Rambo · 10-09-2020 12:00am

biko wrote: »

I have thought so since 2005

A quick search of your posts on the capital reveals a long seated, irrational hatred.

I'm surprised, even at you getting low kicks and cheap shots as the capital city is hit worst by the C-19 pandemic. I know you've had your knuckles wrapped a few times with your bile, hatred and disgusting name calling when it comes to Dublin and it's inhabitants, but you keep at it for some reason and this is a new low.

To take delight at any neighbourhood or part of our island being hit bad by the pandemic is nasty and juvenile. This is a post you will be ashamed of when this is all over and people celebrate the kindnesses shown throughout the ordeal. While there are very few deaths now people are suffering in hospitals and at home and grieving for lost friends and relatives.

Back on track. Anyone with any idea of the economics of the country will know the city won't be locked down. Pointless anyway as household mingling is the driver of the spread within the capital. A serious cessation of visiting has to be adhered to. How it will be enforced is hard to see.

10-09-2020 12:08am

Short answer, no. Hugs.

Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

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