Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

rob316 · 07-09-2020 10:28PM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Just wondering, does anyone know how much Boots charge for the winter flu shot? I'm not in an at risk group so I'd probably have to pay. I've attached the link below if anyone else is curious.

https://www.boots.ie/health-pharmacy-advice/vaccinations/winter-flu-vaccination-service

30 bucks

LiquidZeb · 07-09-2020 10:28PM

rob316 wrote: »

30 bucks

Sound, thanks for that.

mandrake04 · 07-09-2020 10:31PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

13,000 community referrals. Eek.

Also, new way to sign off - “don’t be fearful, just be careful”

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1303055160541933568?s=21

What happened to the capability to do 100,000 tests per week? You would think in the last week they would have pulled out the big guns.

Gods Gift · 07-09-2020 10:31PM

I never got it as the few hot whiskeys in the pub on a Sunday nite kept me sorted

speckle · 07-09-2020 10:36PM

darjeeling wrote: »

GP referrals for flu-like illness have been rising for the last 3 weeks and are above baseline level.

The age profile looks like the profile seen for the covid peak in the spring, with the highest incidence in people aged 15-64.
The flu peak from late last year shows a more typical flu pattern, with the highest incidence in children aged 0-14 and lower incidence in the 15-64 age group.

Data from HPSC (link)

Am I reading that graph right that, influenza referrals/tests are starting a bit early this year or is that the medical profession and patients being more senitized after the year that is in it and more influenza tests being done in conjunction with covid ones to rule things in or out?

majcos · 07-09-2020 10:38PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

I never got it as the few hot whiskeys in the pub on a Sunday nite kept me sorted

And if you have the seafood platter (Vit D and Zinc) and fresh food salad (Vit C) with your hot whiskeys, you might be set against Covid too.

Widdensushi · 07-09-2020 10:38PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Would this year be a good year to get the flu shot?

Depends on your own circumstances, if you are going to be wearing a mask and have little contact with people then you are less likely to get the flu than any other year, it is going to be a year with less flu than other years due to covid precautions, if you will suffer anxiety if you get flu symptoms then maybe you should.

ixoy · 07-09-2020 10:41PM

darjeeling wrote: »

GP referrals for flu-like illness have been rising for the last 3 weeks and are above baseline level.)

That's for the week of Aug 25-30th though. It'll be interesting to see if there's a big shift once this week is taken into account. I'm hoping that most of these referrals are families being cautious and following the Department guidelines around kids with coughs.

Happydays2020 · 07-09-2020 10:46PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Depends on your own circumstances, if you are going to be wearing a mask and have little contact with people then you are less likely to get the flu than any other year, it is going to be a year with less flu than other years due to covid precautions, if you will suffer anxiety if you get flu symptoms then maybe you should.

In fact if one is isolating, going to get the jab may be riskier.

fritzelly · 07-09-2020 10:48PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Green list hasn't been updated since July. Hungary doesn't want anyone in other than their own returning citizens for the month of September.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/8868e-view-the-covid-19-travel-advice-list/

darjeeling · 07-09-2020 10:48PM

speckle wrote: »

Am I reading that graph right that, influenza referrals/tests are starting a bit early this year or is that the medical profession and patients being more senitized after the year that is in it and more influenza tests being done in conjunction with covid ones to rule things in or out?

I'm only going by what the weekly report says, but it says that patients referred by GPs aren't being tested for influenza and haven't been since March. The NVRL is testing a small number of samples each week for influenza but hasn't been finding any.

The report says that flu-like illness GP consultations have been done over the phone since early March and that anyone with cough, fever, shortness of breath, loss of smell or loss/change of taste is referred for a sars-cov-2 test.

I think the extreme spike in March probably must have been made steeper by a lot of people with flu-like symptoms who wouldn't normally call their GP doing so out of increased concern given the covid news at the time.

fritzelly · 07-09-2020 10:48PM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Just wondering, does anyone know how much Boots charge for the winter flu shot? I'm not in an at risk group so I'd probably have to pay. I've attached the link below if anyone else is curious.

https://www.boots.ie/health-pharmacy-advice/vaccinations/winter-flu-vaccination-service

Normal price is about 15 euro from chemists (what I paid last year)

JP Liz V1 · 07-09-2020 11:02PM

Love and Loss on RTE, heartbreakingly sad

gipi · 07-09-2020 11:12PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Normal price is about 15 euro from chemists (what I paid last year)

I paid 26 euro last year, so you did well!

Polar101 · 07-09-2020 11:12PM

Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »

I hope all those complaining about Campbell's use of the title Dr. are as snooty the next time the "Sky Engineer" calls to your house

The engineer is just going to get told that there's no evidence that installing a satellite dish or broadband will get you more TV channels, or faster download speeds.

stephenjmcd · 07-09-2020 11:19PM

Not sure if this has veen posted, apologies if it has. Some data from HPSC up to 2nd September with regards to deaths.

Total number of deaths 1,777

Deaths among COVID-19 cases
Confirmed 1,519 (85.48%)
Probable 99 (5.57%)
Possible 159 (8.95%)

Total number of cases hospitalised 758 (42.66%)
Cases admitted to ICU 94 (5.29%)
Cases not admitted to ICU 664 (37.37%)

Total number of imported cases 6 (0.34%)

Number of cases in healthcare workers 8 (0.45%)

Number with underlying clinical conditions 1,677 (94.37%)

Total number of male cases 874 (49.18%)

M:F ratio 0.97
Median age (years) 84
Mean age (years) 82
Age range (years) 17 - 105

Age group (years)
15-24 yrs - 1
25-34 yrs - 5
35-44 yrs - 13
45-54 yrs - 27
55-64 yrs - 73
65-74 yrs - 253
75-84 yrs - 605
85+ yrs - 798
Unknown - 2
Total 1,777

speckle · 07-09-2020 11:35PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not sure if this has veen posted, apologies if it has. Some data from HPSC up to 2nd September with regards to deaths.

Total number of deaths 1,777

Deaths among COVID-19 cases
Confirmed 1,519 (85.48%)
Probable 99 (5.57%)
Possible 159 (8.95%)

Total number of cases hospitalised 758 (42.66%)
Cases admitted to ICU 94 (5.29%)
Cases not admitted to ICU 664 (37.37%)

does that mean that nearly 1000 cases never got a chance in hospital, that is very sad baecause many older people have shown that they can beat this...

07-09-2020 11:44PM

speckle wrote: »

does that mean that nearly 1000 cases never got a chance in hospital, that is very sad baecause many older people have shown that they can beat this...

No, just lots of cases were too old and sick to even get to hospital.

speckle · 07-09-2020 11:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No, just lots of cases were too old and sick to even get to hospital.

I get you, but who defines whats too old and sick are there guide lines re
quality and does the person have a say...

owlbethere · 07-09-2020 11:49PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Love and Loss on RTE, heartbreakingly sad

I watched it too. The journey's that people shared were incredible and I nearly cried watching it but didn't. The lad who woke up from a coma and discovered his mother died - I mean like, how does someone get over that? Heartbreaking. All of the stories people told tonight.

Everyone who's not taking this covid seriously should be ashamed of themselves.

Widdensushi · 07-09-2020 11:50PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not sure if this has veen posted, apologies if it has. Some data from HPSC up to 2nd September with regards to deaths.

Total number of deaths 1,777

Deaths among COVID-19 cases
Confirmed 1,519 (85.48%)
Probable 99 (5.57%)
Possible 159 (8.95%)

Total number of cases hospitalised 758 (42.66%)
Cases admitted to ICU 94 (5.29%)
Cases not admitted to ICU 664 (37.37%)

Total number of imported cases 6 (0.34%)

Number of cases in healthcare workers 8 (0.45%)

Number with underlying clinical conditions 1,677 (94.37%)

Total number of male cases 874 (49.18%)

M:F ratio 0.97
Median age (years) 84
Mean age (years) 82
Age range (years) 17 - 105

Age group (years)
15-24 yrs - 1
25-34 yrs - 5
35-44 yrs - 13
45-54 yrs - 27
55-64 yrs - 73
65-74 yrs - 253
75-84 yrs - 605
85+ yrs - 798
Unknown - 2
Total 1,777

In this day and age how is age unknown possible? Homeless unidentified?

Widdensushi · 07-09-2020 11:54PM

speckle wrote: »

I get you, but who defines whats too old and sick are there guide lines re
quality and does the person have a say...

It's more dangerous to move some people of a certain age to hospital than to leave them fight it where they are, not all decisions are ever going to be right but will be taken with all the factors of risk.

speckle · 07-09-2020 11:54PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

In this day and age how is age unknown possible? Homeless unidentified?

Possibly, refugees or homeless or unable to read or write, but I also remember in the back of my head something that a lotof birth days got changed when the pension was brought in...

fritzelly · 07-09-2020 11:56PM

gipi wrote: »

I paid 26 euro last year, so you did well!

Hmmm - just checked the prices and 25-30 seems the average - he's my local pharmacy (and would kinda know me fairly well) so maybe he gave it to me for the "at risk" group price

Really should decrease the price to make it more attractive for people (at least this year) - 10/15 doesn't seem a lot, 30 starts to creep in to another level of cost

08-09-2020 12:02AM

speckle wrote: »

I get you, but who defines whats too old and sick are there guide lines re
quality and does the person have a say...

A large number would have been in care homes and likely to have succumbed to the next major infection they got. Transferring a critically ill 90 year old to a hospital to be ventilated, with a small chance of survival, and even then not a great chance of survival with quality of life is not always the humane option.

What is not humane is they did not get the chance to die in the company of their loved ones

Widdensushi · 08-09-2020 12:06AM

Deleted User wrote: »

A large number would have been in care homes and likely to have succumbed to the next major infection they got. Transferring a critically ill 90 year old to a hospital to be ventilated, with a small chance of survival, and even then not a great chance of survival with quality of life is not always the humane option.

What is not humane is they did not get the chance to die in the company of their loved ones

While I agree, obviously allowing people in to the nursing homes in the situation was not possible, they could have caused the deaths of many more by their presence

08-09-2020 12:08AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

While I agree, obviously allowing people in to the nursing homes in the situation was not possible, they could have caused the deaths of many more by their presence

Am not saying people should have been allowed in, just that not having loved ones their did rob some of a more dignified death

Goldengirl · 08-09-2020 12:12AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Hmmm - just checked the prices and 25-30 seems the average - he's my local pharmacy (and would kinda know me fairly well) so maybe he gave it to me for the "at risk" group price

Really should decrease the price to make it more attractive for people (at least this year) - 10/15 doesn't seem a lot, 30 starts to creep in to another level of cost

Was it not mentioned by NPHET last week that flu shots to vulnerable and at risk groups should be free ?
Or is that just an aspiration by the boardsies and I am dreaming ?

speckle · 08-09-2020 12:18AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Am not saying people should have been allowed in, just that not having loved ones their did rob some of a more dignified death

No ifs or buts, we just have to find a better way of doing dying in a pandemic in a nursing home or hospital, in safe but better way for the person and their family.
That being said I know some people did mange to get into the hospitals and nursing homes to say their farewells but it was very scattered approach.(not blaming anyone)

I would volunteer for that.

bb1234567 · 08-09-2020 12:23AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not sure if this has veen posted, apologies if it has. Some data from HPSC up to 2nd September with regards to deaths.

Total number of deaths 1,777

Deaths among COVID-19 cases
Confirmed 1,519 (85.48%)
Probable 99 (5.57%)
Possible 159 (8.95%)

Total number of cases hospitalised 758 (42.66%)
Cases admitted to ICU 94 (5.29%)
Cases not admitted to ICU 664 (37.37%)

Total number of imported cases 6 (0.34%)

Number of cases in healthcare workers 8 (0.45%)

Number with underlying clinical conditions 1,677 (94.37%)

Total number of male cases 874 (49.18%)

M:F ratio 0.97
Median age (years) 84
Mean age (years) 82
Age range (years) 17 - 105

Age group (years)
15-24 yrs - 1
25-34 yrs - 5
35-44 yrs - 13
45-54 yrs - 27
55-64 yrs - 73
65-74 yrs - 253
75-84 yrs - 605
85+ yrs - 798
Unknown - 2
Total 1,777

Interesting that more women died in Ireland than men. In most countries male deaths outnumber female 2:1. I wonder if this may be simply down to the fact more women reside in nursing homes than men and we had a lot of nursing home deaths and outbreaks.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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