Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Beasty

Part XXI was the fastest moving thread since Part XV, but that was 4 months ago

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The daily numbers

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And now a maths lesson:
“Average” is a non-defined term. “Mean” and “Median” are both mathematically defined terms.
Mean = the sum of a series of numbers divided by the number of items in the series
Hence the Mean of 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 7, 8 = (1+2+3+3+4+7+8)/7 = 4
Median is the midpoint number. In the above example it’s the 4th number in the sequence of 7 numbers – in this case 3
Both numbers are examples of “averages”. Not every average is the “Mean”, not every average is the “Median”, but every “Mean” and every “Median” number is an average

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Beasty

In my life I've never stopped
to worry about a thing
Opened up and shouted out
and never tried to see
Wondering if I'd done wrong
Will this depression last for long
Won't you tell me
Where have all the good times gone
Where have all the good times gone
Where have all the good times gone

owlbethere

The other thread came to an end. I can't quote.

I'm still following the guidelines. Iamwhoiam sums it up well for me.

Hope to eventually see the following

It's good to see you
It's good to see you smile
It's good to see you
It's good to see you laugh
It's good to see you
It's good to see you talk
It's good to see you
It's good to see you laugh
It's good to see you smiling one more time
Here come the good times
For a change for a change

Gruffalux

Oh no. You should put in the good joke about what is in the mask.

harr

Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

celt262

harr wrote: »

Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

Wouldnt surprise me one bit.

Quantum Erasure

At this stage, nothing would surprise me.

khalessi

harr wrote: »

Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

Sure they will probably be popping into the local school for some school exchange experience.:rolleyes:

Fr_Dougal

harr wrote: »

Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

Athy? Those poor students.

Thierry12

harr wrote: »

Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

Politicans looking for a new headline

ninebeanrows

We have turned the corner

Jim_Hodge

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

We have turned the corner

And turned in to a cul de sac.

Micky 32

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

And turned in to a pul de sac.

But one can always turn around ;-)

harr

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Athy? Those poor students.

Of all places

SeaBreezes

https://twitter.com/nanogenomic/status/1297302459258474497?s=19

Interesting discussion between immunologists in regards immunity and Tcell function.

podgeandrodge

Thinking about the golf gate thing and the 80 people, am I right in saying any restaurant is limited to 50 people? Surely the size / sq.footage is relevant? If you have a large restaurant capable of holding 200 you're limited to 50 in same way as a smaller restaurant capable of holding 50 is limited to 50????

Oranage2

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Thinking about the golf gate thing and the 80 people, am I right in saying any restaurant is limited to 50 people? Surely the size / sq.footage is relevant? If you have a large restaurant capable of holding 200 you're limited to 50 in same way as a smaller restaurant capable of holding 50 is limited to 50????

Yeah that made no sense, a gym class using a sports hall should have the same as an exercise class in a living room.

Ger Roe

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Thinking about the golf gate thing and the 80 people, am I right in saying any restaurant is limited to 50 people? Surely the size / sq.footage is relevant? If you have a large restaurant capable of holding 200 you're limited to 50 in same way as a smaller restaurant capable of holding 50 is limited to 50????

Yes that contradiction has always applied - it is however irrelevant to the current Golfgate debate.

The rules are the rules and the rationale has been explained many times by DOH. The same argument has been put forward for sports events, but the low limit has been justified by highlighting the risks of association before and after events, if higher numbers attend.

You may have an issue with the rules, but you should not break them, especially if you have had any hand act or part in making them.

ACitizenErased

harr wrote: »

Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

International students continue as normal no? They have to quarantine like everyone else

Eod100

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Thinking about the golf gate thing and the 80 people, am I right in saying any restaurant is limited to 50 people? Surely the size / sq.footage is relevant? If you have a large restaurant capable of holding 200 you're limited to 50 in same way as a smaller restaurant capable of holding 50 is limited to 50????

Yes afaik with max tables of 6

Plumbthedepths

ACitizenErased wrote: »

International students continue as normal no? They have to quarantine like everyone else

Yes but if they are staying with host families wouldn't the restricting ones movement for 2 weeks also apply to the host family as they are a close contact.

Oranage2

I wonder what the government plan is after the schools open. The idea of reducing it to near zero is long sailed at this point. Is it just a hope that hospitalizations don't increase and cause havoc to our already poor health system?

ACitizenErased

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Yes but if they are staying with host families wouldn't the restricting ones movement for 2 weeks also apply to the host family as they are a close contact.

Yeah they should restrict their movements also. To be fair, they have to sign up for it, so whatever extra steps need to be taken is on their own back.

MD1990

Does anyone think the virus strength has waned?

I know it has hitting younger people mostly now but hospital cases around Europe are not really increasing in any way like back in March.

Maybe though more older people are cocooning

caveat emptor

I see Phil Hogan is really sorry as opposed to being half sorry yesterday. Must have been hard for him to increase his apology level. Fair play to him.

caveat emptor

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1297490954245615616?s=21

Micky 32

MD1990 wrote: »

Does anyone think the virus strength has waned?

I can hear the guns loading, asking that on here you’ll be sent to the gallows.....

Interestingly though the worldometer graphs deaths/cases seem to have peaked and showing signs of falling but i’m sure there’s a cohort that will be along shortly to do their best and pull something out of their asses to come up with an excuse as to why.

podgeandrodge

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1297490954245615616?s=21

All this being entirely wrong and all that, but I'm thinking that 80 people ain't having any more impact on the spread of virus than 50. It's all makey up stuff.

I see he is "reporting to the EU Commission on these matters" - but a lot of the other EU countries don't have a 80 limit. It's not consistent rules to be broken.

Renjit

ACitizenErased wrote: »

International students continue as normal no? They have to quarantine like everyone else

September intake. While I see many deferring the admit to next year but we will see influx of international students. Not a good time, Aug-Sep.

Polar101

MD1990 wrote: »

Does anyone think the virus strength has waned?

I know it has hitting younger people mostly now but hospital cases around Europe are not really increasing in any way like back in March.

Maybe though more older people are cocooning

It's a combination of things. Younger people affected, less nursing homes hit, more asymptomatic cases detected (didn't really detect any in March/April). And no exponential growth of cases.

The situation is different to March.