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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

  • 22-08-2020 8:23pm
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    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 62,312 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭ Beasty


    Part XXI was the fastest moving thread since Part XV, but that was 4 months ago

    Previous threads:

    Thread I
    Thread II
    Thread III
    Thread IV
    Thread V
    Thread VI
    Thread VII
    Thread VIII
    Thread IX
    Thread X
    Thread XI
    Thread XII
    Thread XIII
    Thread XIV
    Thread XV
    Thread XVI
    Thread XVII
    Thread XVIII
    Thread XIX
    Thread XX
    Thread XXI

    The daily numbers

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    And now a maths lesson:
    “Average” is a non-defined term. “Mean” and “Median” are both mathematically defined terms.
    Mean = the sum of a series of numbers divided by the number of items in the series
    Hence the Mean of 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 7, 8 = (1+2+3+3+4+7+8)/7 = 4
    Median is the midpoint number. In the above example it’s the 4th number in the sequence of 7 numbers – in this case 3
    Both numbers are examples of “averages”. Not every average is the “Mean”, not every average is the “Median”, but every “Mean” and every “Median” number is an average

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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 62,312 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭ Beasty


    In my life I've never stopped
    to worry about a thing
    Opened up and shouted out
    and never tried to see
    Wondering if I'd done wrong
    Will this depression last for long
    Won't you tell me
    Where have all the good times gone
    Where have all the good times gone
    Where have all the good times gone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭ owlbethere


    The other thread came to an end. I can't quote.

    I'm still following the guidelines. Iamwhoiam sums it up well for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,274 ✭✭✭ DubInMeath


    Hope to eventually see the following

    It's good to see you
    It's good to see you smile
    It's good to see you
    It's good to see you laugh
    It's good to see you
    It's good to see you talk
    It's good to see you
    It's good to see you laugh
    It's good to see you smiling one more time
    Here come the good times
    For a change for a change


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭ Gruffalux


    Oh no. You should put in the good joke about what is in the mask.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭ harr


    Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
    This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭ celt262


    harr wrote: »
    Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
    This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

    Wouldnt surprise me one bit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭ Quantum Erasure


    At this stage, nothing would surprise me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭ khalessi


    harr wrote: »
    Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
    This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

    Sure they will probably be popping into the local school for some school exchange experience.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,218 ✭✭✭ Fr_Dougal


    harr wrote: »
    Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
    This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

    Athy? Those poor students.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭ Thierry12


    harr wrote: »
    Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
    This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

    Politicans looking for a new headline


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,652 ✭✭✭✭ ninebeanrows


    We have turned the corner


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,349 ✭✭✭ Jim_Hodge


    We have turned the corner

    And turned in to a cul de sac.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭ Micky 32


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    And turned in to a pul de sac.

    But one can always turn around ;-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭ harr


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Athy? Those poor students.

    Of all places :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭ SeaBreezes


    https://twitter.com/nanogenomic/status/1297302459258474497?s=19

    Interesting discussion between immunologists in regards immunity and Tcell function.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭ podgeandrodge


    Thinking about the golf gate thing and the 80 people, am I right in saying any restaurant is limited to 50 people? Surely the size / sq.footage is relevant? If you have a large restaurant capable of holding 200 you're limited to 50 in same way as a smaller restaurant capable of holding 50 is limited to 50????


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,087 ✭✭✭✭ Oranage2


    Thinking about the golf gate thing and the 80 people, am I right in saying any restaurant is limited to 50 people? Surely the size / sq.footage is relevant? If you have a large restaurant capable of holding 200 you're limited to 50 in same way as a smaller restaurant capable of holding 50 is limited to 50????

    Yeah that made no sense, a gym class using a sports hall should have the same as an exercise class in a living room.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭ Ger Roe


    Thinking about the golf gate thing and the 80 people, am I right in saying any restaurant is limited to 50 people? Surely the size / sq.footage is relevant? If you have a large restaurant capable of holding 200 you're limited to 50 in same way as a smaller restaurant capable of holding 50 is limited to 50????

    Yes that contradiction has always applied - it is however irrelevant to the current Golfgate debate.

    The rules are the rules and the rationale has been explained many times by DOH. The same argument has been put forward for sports events, but the low limit has been justified by highlighting the risks of association before and after events, if higher numbers attend.

    You may have an issue with the rules, but you should not break them, especially if you have had any hand act or part in making them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,535 ✭✭✭✭ ACitizenErased


    harr wrote: »
    Just seen a post from a local politician or former counsellor that 40 Spanish students have flown into Ireland yesterday and are staying with local families in and around the Athy area as part of a student exchange.
    This is absolutely crazy if true . Nearly sure Spain isn’t on green list and kildare on lockdown

    International students continue as normal no? They have to quarantine like everyone else


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,468 ✭✭✭✭ Eod100


    Thinking about the golf gate thing and the 80 people, am I right in saying any restaurant is limited to 50 people? Surely the size / sq.footage is relevant? If you have a large restaurant capable of holding 200 you're limited to 50 in same way as a smaller restaurant capable of holding 50 is limited to 50????

    Yes afaik with max tables of 6


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭ Plumbthedepths


    International students continue as normal no? They have to quarantine like everyone else

    Yes but if they are staying with host families wouldn't the restricting ones movement for 2 weeks also apply to the host family as they are a close contact.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,087 ✭✭✭✭ Oranage2


    I wonder what the government plan is after the schools open. The idea of reducing it to near zero is long sailed at this point. Is it just a hope that hospitalizations don't increase and cause havoc to our already poor health system?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,535 ✭✭✭✭ ACitizenErased


    Yes but if they are staying with host families wouldn't the restricting ones movement for 2 weeks also apply to the host family as they are a close contact.

    Yeah they should restrict their movements also. To be fair, they have to sign up for it, so whatever extra steps need to be taken is on their own back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭ MD1990


    Does anyone think the virus strength has waned?

    I know it has hitting younger people mostly now but hospital cases around Europe are not really increasing in any way like back in March.

    Maybe though more older people are cocooning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭ caveat emptor


    I see Phil Hogan is really sorry as opposed to being half sorry yesterday. Must have been hard for him to increase his apology level. Fair play to him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭ caveat emptor




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭ Micky 32


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Does anyone think the virus strength has waned?

    I can hear the guns loading, asking that on here you’ll be sent to the gallows.....

    Interestingly though the worldometer graphs deaths/cases seem to have peaked and showing signs of falling but i’m sure there’s a cohort that will be along shortly to do their best and pull something out of their asses to come up with an excuse as to why.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭ podgeandrodge




    All this being entirely wrong and all that, but I'm thinking that 80 people ain't having any more impact on the spread of virus than 50. It's all makey up stuff.

    I see he is "reporting to the EU Commission on these matters" - but a lot of the other EU countries don't have a 80 limit. It's not consistent rules to be broken.


  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ Renjit


    International students continue as normal no? They have to quarantine like everyone else

    September intake. While I see many deferring the admit to next year but we will see influx of international students. Not a good time, Aug-Sep.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭ Polar101


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Does anyone think the virus strength has waned?

    I know it has hitting younger people mostly now but hospital cases around Europe are not really increasing in any way like back in March.

    Maybe though more older people are cocooning

    It's a combination of things. Younger people affected, less nursing homes hit, more asymptomatic cases detected (didn't really detect any in March/April). And no exponential growth of cases.

    The situation is different to March.


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