Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Jim_Hodge · 07-09-2020 09:38PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Ireland is heading "very slowly, but steadily and progressively into another epidemic" according to a consultant in infectious diseases at Beaumont Hospital in Dublin...

Why not just link to the RTE article?

Goldengirl · 07-09-2020 09:38PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

Listen to the public health advice. There is no magic solution to gaining immunity to this. The best thing you can do is maintain your general health as well as you can; eat plenty of whole foods, maintain a healthy weight, don't overdo the sugar and alcohol and engage in moderate exercise. Couple this with sensible social distancing measures where possible to avoid catching covid 19 and avoid passing it on to others. If you have symptoms suggestive of covid isolate and get tested. If symptoms get worse insist on medical care to ensure it is treated properly. Reading about possible treatments and cures is not going to help as much as those measures will. The doctors and nurses who will treat you if you get seriously sick from covid have more knowledge and experience of this than you have. That's what they are there for.

Ah , while I don't disagree with everything above , it is unrealistic to expect people not to be curious and want to know more than is being currently dished out .
Or else why would there be so much media and news coverage , and the glut of articles to peruse everytime you type in Covid 19 ?
Some people will accept what they are being told without question , others obviously have different needs for assurance and information .
Most medics would be very loathe to tell people " trust me , I 'm a doctor " in this day and age as they would quite rightly be told not to be patronising .

07-09-2020 09:39PM

If we were testing less would that mean our 14 incidence rate would be lower?

Plumbthedepths · 07-09-2020 09:41PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

The next week is vital.

The only number that dropped, it used to be two weeks. ;-)

Funsterdelux · 07-09-2020 09:41PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Put him on the PUP and watch his tune change.

Sounds like a good idea for a tv show

"Dr McConkey does the PUP"
"Dr McConkey goes to Leitrim"

And so on

Happydays2020 · 07-09-2020 09:43PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Why not just link to the RTE article?

https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2020/0907/1163645-covid-hospital-figures/

wadacrack · 07-09-2020 09:45PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Ireland is heading "very slowly, but steadily and progressively into another epidemic" according to a consultant in infectious diseases at Beaumont Hospital in Dublin.

Speaking on RTÉ's Drivetime, Professor Sam McConkey said the number of Covid-19 cases in Ireland are "very concerning".

<snip>

Agree with that, its what many on here fail to understand what is happening tbh.Still time hopefully society can start respecting the virus again. People with clear agenda's spreading mis information really not helping however

Goldengirl · 07-09-2020 09:46PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If we were testing less would that mean our 14 incidence rate would be lower?

Yes. Good point .
But we would also be picking up less asymptomatic.
All along WHO and others have said test, test , test.
Now Ireland is doing that and finding so many cases , I don't think that we can be held up as the bad boy of EU .
We are doing what is necessary in order to " hunt the virus down" again to quote WHO .
Main thing is to keep hospitalisation and those needing critical care down as much as possible .

Beasty · 07-09-2020 09:48PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Ireland is heading "very slowly, but steadily and progressively into another epidemic" according to a consultant in infectious diseases at Beaumont Hospital in Dublin.

Speaking on RTÉ's Drivetime, Professor Sam McConkey said the number of Covid-19 cases in Ireland are "very concerning".

<snip>

Happydays2020 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2020/0907/1163645-covid-hospital-figures/

Site rules prohibit copying and pasting full copyrighted articles - a paragraph plus link is all that is permitted

Drumpot · 07-09-2020 09:48PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

Listen to the public health advice. There is no magic solution to gaining immunity to this. The best thing you can do is maintain your general health as well as you can; eat plenty of whole foods, maintain a healthy weight, don't overdo the sugar and alcohol and engage in moderate exercise. Couple this with sensible social distancing measures where possible to avoid catching covid 19 and avoid passing it on to others. If you have symptoms suggestive of covid isolate and get tested. If symptoms get worse insist on medical care to ensure it is treated properly. Reading about possible treatments and cures is not going to help as much as those measures will. The doctors and nurses who will treat you if you get seriously sick from covid have more knowledge and experience of this than you have. That's what they are there for.

I do listen to public health advice. It’s possible to have more then one source of information, I’m really interested to understand the reason for the health advice and quite often it doesn’t stack up to scrutiny.

And to add, even though public health advice can be wrong (like pre lockdown where heads were buried in the sand and Dr John helped me and my family be more then ready by time lockdown came), I still respect most of our public advice. Except when they try to lie about schools being some sort of special environment.

Public advice can be wrong. Sometimes medcram and Dr John videos aren’t great, that’s why not relying on one source is beneficial and why I only link specific information from these sources when I think is interesting, relevant and worth discussing.. I actually had a long doctor appointment maybe 2-3 weeks before lockdown in Feb to discuss my concerns, including many of the things I had seen in dr johns videos. I didn’t just watch a YouTube video and take it all as fact like some of you seem to think.

Edit: Dr Aylward from WHO did that interview after coming back from China, think it was end of February and he warned something on the lines of “it’s coming, get your population ready”. It was clear It was an unfiltered press conference as he even said Who wouldn’t like him saying what he said. The authorities have at times manipulated information for different reasons (like masks). It’s healthy to have a reasonable skepticism about their motives.

Gods Gift · 07-09-2020 09:49PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If we were testing less would that mean our 14 incidence rate would be lower?

Is that what the Donald said in the America.

majcos · 07-09-2020 09:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If we were testing less would that mean our 14 incidence rate would be lower?

Yes. I think that was one of Trump’s solutions to deal with increasing case numbers in the US in mid June and his explanation as to why there were more cases there compared to other countries.

Happydays2020 · 07-09-2020 09:50PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes. Good point .
But we would also be picking up less asymptomatic.
All along WHO and others have said test, test , test.
Now Ireland is doing that and finding so many cases , I don't think that we can be held up as the bad boy of EU .
We are doing what is necessary in order to " hunt the virus down" again to quote WHO .
Main thing is to keep hospitalisation and those needing critical care down as much as possible .

This is why the new EU criteria for travel [ green, orange and red/grey listing will be calculated on the number of positives, number of tests carried out and % of tests which are positive.

ixoy · 07-09-2020 09:57PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

13,000 community referrals. Eek.

Schools. With kids back, any kid that gets even mild symptoms needs a test. Lots of kids back so lots of colds passing around that get passed back home and, if one person then develops a slight cough, it's testing time. So that's a big part of why referrals are shooting up.

fritzelly · 07-09-2020 09:59PM

Looking at our latest Green List - what a laugh
Many of the countries do not want us there - Latvia, Hungary...

Jim_Hodge · 07-09-2020 10:01PM

ixoy wrote: »

Schools. With kids back, any kid that gets even mild symptoms needs a test. Lots of kids back so lots of colds passing around that get passed back home and, if one person then develops a slight cough, it's testing time. So that's a big part of why referrals are shooting up.

Just curious, as that's not what my neighbour (a GP) was saying this evening. Where did you hear that it was mostly schoolkids?

Plumbthedepths · 07-09-2020 10:02PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Looking at our latest Green List - what a laugh
Many of the countries do not want us there - Latvia, Hungary...

Green list hasn't been updated since July. Hungary doesn't want anyone in other than their own returning citizens for the month of September.

speckle · 07-09-2020 10:03PM

Covid treatment in Ireland some info

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/acute-hospitals-division/drugs-management-programme/

treatment evidence reviews
http://www.ncpe.ie/research/covid-19/

WHO guidelines
https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/clinical-management-of-severe-acute-respiratory-infection-when-novel-coronavirus-(ncov)-infection-is-suspected

ixoy · 07-09-2020 10:04PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Just curious, as that's not what my neighbour (a GP) was saying this evening. Where did you hear that it was mostly schoolkids?

A GP who was chatting to other GPs. I'm not saying it's school kids either - it's because schools are back, that colds are spreading which can produce Covid-like symptoms. That's increased the number of referrals.

ACitizenErased · 07-09-2020 10:05PM

I guarantee the 6000+ increase in referrals = kids. Parents will be bricking it for the next while. No surprises there.

speckle · 07-09-2020 10:06PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

This is why the new EU criteria for travel [ green, orange and red/grey listing will be calculated on the number of positives, number of tests carried out and % of tests which are positive.

I presume of active cases rolling.. even though not all will be infectiouswhen tested positive? An with a new shorter isolation period??

LiquidZeb · 07-09-2020 10:08PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Put him on the PUP and watch his tune change.

True it's easy for all the well compensated experts doling out advice on how long to Cage the peasants up for. They live on another planet to the majority of the population. Any recession or cuts is trivial to them.

fits · 07-09-2020 10:08PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I guarantee the 6000+ increase in referrals = kids. Parents will be bricking it for the next while. No surprises there.

Both my boys got a cold less than a week into Playschool. Their temperatures rose but not above 38. Every kid in the Playschool has it. I have the cold now as well. My friend in cork also has a similar dose and her family were referred for testing yesterday.

GeorgeBailey · 07-09-2020 10:10PM

Obviously (very) anecdotal but my youngest was being tested this morning in Citywest. 90% of people there had kids with them also.

Gods Gift · 07-09-2020 10:14PM

Would this year be a good year to get the flu shot?

ACitizenErased · 07-09-2020 10:15PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Would this year be a good year to get the flu shot?

Every year is a good year to get the flu shot

daydorunrun · 07-09-2020 10:20PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Would this year be a good year to get the flu shot?

Would this year be a good year to hibernate?

LiquidZeb · 07-09-2020 10:23PM

Just wondering, does anyone know how much Boots charge for the winter flu shot? I'm not in an at risk group so I'd probably have to pay. I've attached the link below if anyone else is curious.

https://www.boots.ie/health-pharmacy-advice/vaccinations/winter-flu-vaccination-service

majcos · 07-09-2020 10:24PM

Hibernation started in March. Reviviscence date as yet unknown.

darjeeling · 07-09-2020 10:26PM

ixoy wrote: »

A GP who was chatting to other GPs. I'm not saying it's school kids either - it's because schools are back, that colds are spreading which can produce Covid-like symptoms. That's increased the number of referrals.

GP referrals for flu-like illness have been rising for the last 3 weeks and are above baseline level.

The age profile looks like the profile seen for the covid peak in the spring, with the highest incidence in people aged 15-64.
The flu peak from late last year shows a more typical flu pattern, with the highest incidence in children aged 0-14 and lower incidence in the 15-64 age group.

Data from HPSC (link)

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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