Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

I do not know if people were watching the GAA. there was fans at the game. I am guessing they follow the NI laws. Loads of spaces but all the people were in 2 or 3 places with no space between them

end of the road wrote: »

that's why i'm suggesting that if someone is suffering from anxiety or feel they will do so because of the reporting of the daily figures, they should perhapse avoid listening to the reports on them.
the reports don't need to be headline news no but i assume that channels have something to show that there is enough interest for them to be so hence they are the main headline.
things are going well indeed and we are more or less open now which is what we all want.

I do not know. You talk about protecting vulnerable yet suggesting that if they feel vulnerable they should protect themselves and avoid watching news. Covid is pretty much main point of every news so there really is no other way than to tell them to stop watching news completely.
Would not be easier to let people obsessed with numbers to go and check them on some designated website instead of broadcasting them everywhere with no chance to hide from this doom and fear fest?

People who understand numbers already know that this is just hyping up fear aimed particularly at vulnerable people.

31,134 people died in Ireland last year - that make it 85 people a day. Out of which one third - about 28 people a day die from cancer.
By 2020 which is right now - it was predicted that 1 in 2 people will develop cancer during their lifetime. Every year we have an average of 43k of new cancer cases diagnosed. That is 117 cases a day of what is for the most part a death sentence yet 100 covid cases a day are presented as a end of the world? Seriously? Even if there would be 10x more it is pretty much negligible as absolute majority of them are non symptomatic and will not result in any health damage despite what some people here are trying to suggest.

Numbers game to sustain narrative.

Facebook is hilarious tonight “ JUST ANNOUNCED, ARMY ON STANDBY TO BLOCK OFF DUBLIN” lol

Micky 32 wrote: »

Facebook is hilarious tonight “ JUST ANNOUNCED, ARMY ON STANDBY TO BLOCK OFF DUBLIN” lol

Christ Almighty....

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Exactly.

And I've repeated before, the vast majority of the population haven't a clue it seems, of the normal death rate in Ireland.

If they did, they would demand a lockdown every influenza season.

Don’t give this shower of nutters any ideas please.....

TRANQUILLO wrote: »

It's not what they set out to do in their careers but the attention must be flattering for some no?

He also seems to only be giving advice from a bookish theoretical point of view (in my opinion) there is no empathy, no common sense, no concessions. Its 100 percent zero covid end goal tunnel vision.


Its like a fireman putting out the fire in your house and then going around ireland collecting up all the matches and lighters so no fire can ever be started again. An admirable pursuit but completely unrealistic and at odds with how most of us live our lives.

I think he forgets some of us are out of work and we kinda need to get back to that because ill blow my brains out sooner than ill catch this virus if this keeps up.

his job is to advise based on the information, nothing more and nothing less.
it's on the government to decide whatever concessions should be in place if any after that.
he can't give any concessions on advise or information, he can only pass on the information.

patnor1011 wrote: »

I do not know. You talk about protecting vulnerable yet suggesting that if they feel vulnerable they should protect themselves and avoid watching news. Covid is pretty much main point of every news so there really is no other way than to tell them to stop watching news completely.
Would not be easier to let people obsessed with numbers to go and check them on some designated website instead of broadcasting them everywhere with no chance to hide from this doom and fear fest?

People who understand numbers already know that this is just hyping up fear aimed particularly at vulnerable people.

31,134 people died in Ireland last year - that make it 85 people a day. Out of which one third - about 28 people a day die from cancer.
By 2020 which is right now - it was predicted that 1 in 2 people will develop cancer during their lifetime. Every year we have an average of 43k of new cancer cases diagnosed. That is 117 cases a day of what is for the most part a death sentence yet 100 covid cases a day are presented as a end of the world? Seriously? Even if there would be 10x more it is pretty much negligible as absolute majority of them are non symptomatic and will not result in any health damage despite what some people here are trying to suggest.

Numbers game to sustain narrative.

some people don't have time to be checking websites so therefore reporting the figures for their own interest is important and that is what news is there to do, inform.
there is no fear fest or hyping up fear
who are these people who understand the numbers that know that the reporting of the figures is hyping up fear? the only ones i know about are those who believe the figures should be changed from daily to weekly, which is fine but daily ones are more informative.
covid is a very contagious virus that if left unchecked can spread like wild fire, comparing it to cancer does nothing for your argument.
nobody is suggesting anything about how many will end up with health damage due to covid, we do know that some people who were healthy before covid and who caught it have had after effects dispite recovery. that cannot simply be dismissed, i'm afraid.
numbers game to inform and educate.

Micky 32 wrote: »

It’s not a group but a man in his 70’s that’s on my friends list wrote it, would have thought he’d have more sense.

Facebook should be shut down, globally

MadYaker wrote: »

I didn't realise it was the idiot facebook group demographic i was interacting with on this thread. I guess that explains a lot. Not much point following this thread anymore. Facebook rots your brain you should delete it now.

Keep your assumptions to yourself. So what does it explain? The main reason i use facebook is to interact with family abroad. What’s up, did you get dumped on Facebook at some stage?

Micky 32 wrote: »

Keep your assumptions to yourself. So what does it explain? The main reason i use facebook is to interact with family abroad. What’s up, did you get dumped on Facebook at some stage?

add them on skype and delete facebook

end of the road wrote: »

his job is to advise based on the information, nothing more and nothing less.
it's on the government to decide whatever concessions should be in place if any after that.
he can't give any concessions on advise or information, he can only pass on the information.




some people don't have time to be checking websites so therefore reporting the figures for their own interest is important and that is what news is there to do, inform.
there is no fear fest or hyping up fear
who are these people who understand the numbers that know that the reporting of the figures is hyping up fear? the only ones i know about are those who believe the figures should be changed from daily to weekly, which is fine but daily ones are more informative.
covid is a very contagious virus that if left unchecked can spread like wild fire, comparing it to cancer does nothing for your argument.
nobody is suggesting anything about how many will end up with health damage due to covid, we do know that some people who were healthy before covid and who caught it have had after effects dispite recovery. that cannot simply be dismissed, i'm afraid.
numbers game to inform and educate.

Oh and I thought that you were talking about how we should do everything to protect vulnerable. So not exposing them to numbers which may cause unnecessary anxiety is due to convenience for someone who does not have time to find some information himself...
This wildfire argument is complete nonsense. Sweden or Japan and many other countries are example. Even India which is crammed with people majority of which do not have access to any PPE whatsoever is faring only about 3x worse than us. There goes your wildfire.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Your still going to follow it though

For some people this covid situation works as some religion with their saints, books and all. Everybody who somehow differ from their view is heretic who endanger their life.

MadYaker wrote: »

Social media is a new phenomenon but all the emerging evidence from studies done by psychologists in recent years suggests that it has an overall negative affect on mental wellbeing. .

I’d say this thread and the other main one would have the same desired effect. I have seen more shyte on these threads than facebook.

end of the road wrote:

some people don't have time to be checking websites so therefore reporting the figures for their own interest is important and that is what news is there to do, inform. there is no fear fest or hyping up fear who are these people who understand the numbers that know that the reporting of the figures is hyping up fear? the only ones i know about are those who believe the figures should be changed from daily to weekly, which is fine but daily ones are more informative. covid is a very contagious virus that if left unchecked can spread like wild fire, comparing it to cancer does nothing for your argument. nobody is suggesting anything about how many will end up with health damage due to covid, we do know that some people who were healthy before covid and who caught it have had after effects dispite recovery. that cannot simply be dismissed, i'm afraid. numbers game to inform and educate.

The cold and flu are also very contagious but I don't think you are going to suggest comparing this disease to that now?

You are missing the point the poster is trying to make completely, he is trying to add context to what the risks are.

In regards to the media, I will give one example - Prime time a few nights ago we had a day when there was over 200 cases, it also happened to be the 10th day in a row of no reported deaths.
The host on prime time started banging on about the cases and kept asking if we need to tighten restrictions because of it, yet he barely mentioned the good news about 10 days with no deaths and the fact hospitalizations and ICU figures were staying low.
Now yes they were reporting on the figures but the tone was again very negative as has been from the media for months now.