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Second hand tractors are gone expensive

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭hopeso


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Thinking of changing tractor here. Approx 3k to be spent on her and prob get 4-5k for it for export.
    Looking for something around 15k. Something tidy fir around yard. Don't need loader. Would only need it for mowing ( disc mower) spreading fertiliser and bales.
    Would a 4wd be a waste on something around 80 -90 horse power and what should I be looking at ?

    The 4wd would depend on your ground. It's certainly not a waste on a 80-90hp tractor. Very worthwhile if you're working in less than ideal conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Thinking of changing tractor here. Approx 3k to be spent on her and prob get 4-5k for it for export.
    Looking for something around 15k. Something tidy fir around yard. Don't need loader. Would only need it for mowing ( disc mower) spreading fertiliser and bales.
    Would a 4wd be a waste on something around 80 -90 horse power and what should I be looking at ?

    Certainly not a waste but budget is tight so you may have to compromise. As the thread title says used tractors are gone fierce expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,107 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Thinking of changing tractor here. Approx 3k to be spent on her and prob get 4-5k for it for export.
    Looking for something around 15k. Something tidy fir around yard. Don't need loader. Would only need it for mowing ( disc mower) spreading fertiliser and bales.
    Would a 4wd be a waste on something around 80 -90 horse power and what should I be looking at ?

    A lot will depend on your other requirements, do you want some form of shuttle, do you need a loader on it, if 2wd will do it sounds like a lot of roadwork is not needed. However this looks ok a McCirmick CX90. I suspect VAT is on top of the price brining it to about 16k and it sterling as well

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/mc-cormick-4-wd/25792158

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭Robson99


    hopeso wrote: »
    The 4wd would depend on your ground. It's certainly not a waste on a 80-90hp tractor. Very worthwhile if you're working in less than ideal conditions.

    Land a bit heavy but not hilly. Wouldn't be doing much work on it myself bar fertiliser, dung, rolling and mowing / turning.
    Just think a 2wd is a neater / tidied tractor bar maybe a new holland 6635 or Case 4240 in a 4wd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭shane b


    As another poster mentioned Landini may be worth looking at. Perkins engines and still fairly mechanical.
    Brother bought a 01 Landini Ghibli 90 4wd with 4000 hrs on it last year for 15k. Granted it had a few issues like a hole in the exhaust, one of the doors needed a slam to close and it needed 2 front tyres. Its been going great since he bought it and he only changed the front tyres lately.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭Robson99


    A lot will depend on your other requirements, do you want some form of shuttle, do you need a loader on it, if 2wd will do it sounds like a lot of roadwork is not needed. However this looks ok a McCirmick CX90. I suspect VAT is on top of the price brining it to about 16k and it sterling as well

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/mc-cormick-4-wd/25792158

    Shuttle / loader not required. Have loader on another small tractor that does all that's needed ( stacking some straw / hay and loading some dung ). Very little roadworks.
    If a person buys private and does not get an invoice does that mean you can't get tax write off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,107 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Shuttle / loader not required. Have loader on another small tractor that does all that's needed ( stacking some straw / hay and loading some dung ). Very little roadworks.
    If a person buys private and does not get an invoice does that mean you can't get tax write off

    Any body can give you an invoice/receipt, jut make sure to pay by cheque, bank draft or bank transfer. Accountant can see it then in bank accountant.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,883 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Land a bit heavy but not hilly. Wouldn't be doing much work on it myself bar fertiliser, dung, rolling and mowing / turning.
    Just think a 2wd is a neater / tidied tractor bar maybe a new holland 6635 or Case 4240 in a 4wd

    I know theres a restored 2wd landini at the landini dealer near killucan, co westmeath. Think it could be a 9880


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Thanks Reggie.
    I'll probably wait till the new year before I do anything but the likes of that Landini would probably do if cab was ok.
    I think they are similar to the MF 390 / 690


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭hopeso


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Thanks Reggie.
    I'll probably wait till the new year before I do anything but the likes of that Landini would probably do if cab was ok.
    I think they are similar to the MF 390 / 690

    Similar engine and cab.....Totally different tractor otherwise..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭Robson99


    hopeso wrote: »
    Similar engine and cab.....Totally different tractor otherwise..

    For better or worse ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Bazzer007


    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/mf-390-c-w-loader/25756607

    390 with a loader and tine grab for under €15k. You could sell the loader and grab making it a cheap tractor. Looks clean and hours are not high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Iodine1


    I'm not looking for a tractor, but looking at those pictures, for interest. 5 photos but show nothing, very badly taken photos. Can't understand why they won't bother with good close shots, and 1 inside cab?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    What impact will brexit have on tractor prices?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Bazzer007


    I know it's like they don't want to sell it by taking crap pics. Cab pics give you a good overview, hate it when there's none.

    Nice JD 6200. Bit overprcied. I have a 98 JD 6400, very nice tractor.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere/25822907


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Iodine1 wrote: »
    I'm not looking for a tractor, but looking at those pictures, for interest. 5 photos but show nothing, very badly taken photos. Can't understand why they won't bother with good close shots, and 1 inside cab?

    Agreed, a few shots inside the cab imo are vital. You can tell a lot about a tractor by how the cab was treated, kept clean, seat minded etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,574 ✭✭✭straight


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    What impact will brexit have on tractor prices?

    Good question. Cant see it helping anyway. Will they still be able to import tractors through the north?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    Can you. Bring one. Fr UK they are half that. Price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭fastrac94


    Anyone here bought second hand tractor from England? Any recommendations for a place to look. Anywhere you would go back to again when looking for another tractor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Damo810


    fastrac94 wrote: »
    Anyone here bought second hand tractor from England? Any recommendations for a place to look. Anywhere you would go back to again when looking for another tractor?

    No value over there at the minute, certainly not for farmers tractors.

    As for the 2/4WD, you'll buy a 4WD as handy these days as a lot of 2WD's have been exported and they are becoming hard got, but still a demand for them as yard tractors, very very few being sold new with many manufacturers not even giving the option for 2WD anymore.

    Fiat 80-90/90-90 can be got well under than budget just keep an eye out for rust, Landini's give you a few options too, 9880 or 8880 as mentioned or even a blizzard. You pick up a 00 John Deere at this stage for well within that budget just make sure it hasnt been worked to death and tarted up (that goes for everything in that price bracket). Some earlier valmets come up at that money and are worth looking at, likes of a 6400 or even a 900/A series will fall in your budget and do the work you need just keep an eye on the clutch.

    Loads of options in your price range but there is a hell of a lot more bad ones than there is good so proceed with caution and get a good lad to go with you because a 1000 doesnt go very far fixing a lot of tractors nowadays.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    Load of Bord na Mona tractors up for auction. I don't know anything about them but some look ok, others dog rough or just odd.

    Bog tractors Bord na mona


    NÍL AON TINTEÁN MAR DO THINTEÁN FÉIN :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭older by the day


    As rough as my neighbours yard. How come they all look so wrecked, have they clean ones hidden else where


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    As rough as my neighbours yard. How come they all look so wrecked, have they clean ones hidden else where

    We bought a JD 6910 and a 6930 from BnM. They were a year or two old at the time. Well worked but well looked after. I wouldn't write them off. The ones in the pics look pretty tired though too be fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭shane b


    There was a BNM auction last year too. I remember it being discussed on a thread here. There was a lot of rough machines for sale and from what was mentioned nothing went cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    There is a mathematical formula called the depreciation value of a machine.

    I remember doing it in college. Some of you lads will call me a college boy and pay an accountant or bank employee to work it out.

    Depreciation comes into it, I remember that much. How cool it looks on the telly doesnt come into it, how many girls it will pull doesnt come into it, how tall itll make ye does not come into the equation, dont impulse buy plant is what Im saying, ask the accountant sure isnt he paid enough and not a speck of dirt on him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    There is a mathematical formula called the depreciation value of a machine.

    I remember doing it in college. Some of you lads will call me a college boy and pay an accountant or bank employee to work it out.

    Depreciation comes into it, I remember that much. How cool it looks on the telly doesnt come into it, how many girls it will pull doesnt come into it, how tall itll make ye does not come into the equation, dont impulse buy plant is what Im saying, ask the accountant sure isnt he paid enough and not a speck of dirt on him




    I'd reckon 99% of the posters on here are far more familiar with how you write down book values of assets than you seem to be yourself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


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    New hen house sorted :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


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    New hen house sorted :D

    Great idea, was looking at the catalogue and was wondering wtf anyone would buy these for. I was thinking tree house 😆


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


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    New hen house sorted :D
    We had a Caterpillar 910, and used to leave the roof off cos of low sheds, it reminds me of the ugly cab that was left in the yard. Some loader tho


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Great idea, was looking at the catalogue and was wondering wtf anyone would buy these for. I was thinking tree house 😆

    Was thinking the same myself


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