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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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  • #6062
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Restrictions and guidelines protecting vulnerable main thing . Other things play their part but that is the main thing .

    Let's call it what it is .

    .anti restrictions crowd here would have you believe it's none of the above , just a cold initially , then like flu , no second wave , open all up , need a haircut , need a pint in a pub , don't want to wear a mask , now need to drink all day if they want , virus is weakening , rising cases not a second wave , increased cases in hospital doesn't mean anything , blah , blah and more fxxxing repetitive blah!


    Christ you do certainly moan.


  • #6063
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Didn't and will never detract - goes against the agenda that world is ending soon from the virus

    I remember him saying A.C.E trawled the net to find the contradictory conclusion. It's speaks volumes to the creature you are dealing with.


  • #6064
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yes, yes I did. I'm not apologising for the internet while on the internet. A doctor from Penn state should speak better,

    Fair play citizen for highlighting it. We all get things wrong as most here would know.

    The thread moves so fast I missed your acknowledgement. Fair play. Maybe dont be so quick to jump on every bit of negative news posted on twitter though. Its shown time and again that its not a reliable source.

    And you didn't need to "trawl" to see the update btw. It even made it to reddit


  • #6065
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    speckle wrote: »
    thanks, yes phrased that badly. Understand if it doesnt close its normally now detected at birth. just easier for me to image with picture in mind of an adult. :)

    PDA.. patent (meaning open ) ductus arteriosus , between Aorta and Vena cava. So not right or left but in between.
    Mainly seen in prem babies as usually closed in full term infants . If not causes shunting of arterial and venous blood and hypoxia in newborns . Requires surgery if not closing .

    Why are you asking ?


  • #6066
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yes, yes I did. I'm not apologising for the internet while on the internet. A doctor from Penn state should speak better,

    Fair play citizen for highlighting it. We all get things wrong as most here would know.

    Not the first time you got something wrong is it. You had to delete a tweet after getting reported.
    Where exactly do you live btw, I'm curious.


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  • #6067
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,149 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yes, yes I did. I'm not apologising for the internet while on the internet. A doctor from Penn state should speak better,

    Fair play citizen for highlighting it. We all get things wrong as most here would know.

    Didn't stop you touting for months on end the world famed epidemiologist nutritionist Dr Eric Ding as the foremost expert on coronavirus with all his doom mongering and clickbait tweets

    https://archive.ph/Bx1WE


  • #6068
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I remember him saying A.C.E trawled the net to find the contradictory conclusion. It's speaks volumes to the creature you are dealing with.

    Nice attempt of dehumanising me. Makes it easier to **** on me.



  • #6069
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Look if you don't like me just ignore me. I'm sure you are a lovely fella in real life.
    Respect is a two way street. I don't respect you or your opinion. I can't recall anything you've added to the debate

    Well i don’t copy and paste false tweets anyway.


  • #6070
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    The thread moves so fast I missed your acknowledgement. Fair play. Maybe dont be so quick to jump on every bit of negative news posted on twitter though. Its shown time and again that its not a reliable source.

    And you didn't need to "trawl" to see the update btw. It was a fairly prominent story on ESPN once the doctor clarified.

    It wasn't an admission of posting false information just so you know. He blamed the doctor and ACE for pointing it out.


  • #6071
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Nice attempt of dehumanising me. Makes it easier to **** on me.


    Your behaviour makes it easy....... any more fake tweets?


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  • #6072
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Who is running the country, this bloke is on a total power trip. Noisy minority my hole.

    Sshhh!


  • #6073
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Didn't stop you touting for months on end the world famed epidemiologist nutritionist Dr Eric Ding as the foremost expert on coronavirus with all his doom mongering and clickbait tweets

    https://archive.ph/Bx1WE

    Finally , people are calling this guy out.


  • #6074
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Did you see or acknowledge the news that the twitter post you quoted yesterday about how 35% of big 10 athletes have myocarditis was totally false?

    Did anyone apologise to me for saying it's probably airborne?
    Or that masks are effective and should be worn
    Or that PPE in hospital setting completely inadequate?


    No didn't think so. 6 months ago.............:rolleyes:
    caveat emptor. wrote: »
    I'm fully aware it's serious. Don't bury your head in the sand or do. I don't give a .... Why do you think I'm posting here. "It'll be grand" is easy to say. Reading a scientific journal is not. Get real.

    Here's the link. Seriously though. You please stop posting and learn how to click on links and read, in that order.

    The journal of New England Medicine. Probably better than randomer on forum saying viruses are dense but I've no proof of this. Use your judgement.

    Evidence of Airborne Transmission of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Virus


    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa032867

    For those who can't click on links and read. Just read.
    METHODS
    We determined the distribution of the initial 187 cases of SARS in the Amoy Gardens housing complex in 2003 according to the date of onset and location of residence. We then studied the association between the location (building, floor, and direction the apartment unit faced) and the probability of infection using logistic regression. The spread of the airborne, virus-laden aerosols generated by the index patient was modeled with the use of airflow-dynamics studies, including studies performed with the use of computational fluid-dynamics and multizone modeling.
    RESULTS
    The curves of the epidemic suggested a common source of the outbreak. All but 5 patients lived in seven buildings (A to G), and the index patient and more than half the other patients with SARS (99 patients) lived in building E. Residents of the floors at the middle and upper levels in building E were at a significantly higher risk than residents on lower floors; this finding is consistent with a rising plume of contaminated warm air in the air shaft generated from a middle-level apartment unit. The risks for the different units matched the virus concentrations predicted with the use of multizone modeling. The distribution of risk in buildings B, C, and D corresponded well with the three-dimensional spread of virus-laden aerosols predicted with the use of computational fluid-dynamics modeling.
    CONCLUSIONS
    Airborne spread of the virus appears to explain this large community outbreak of SARS, and future efforts at prevention and control must take into consideration the potential for airborne spread of this virus.


  • #6075
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    SPDUB wrote: »
    There is apparently a large outbreak in part of Dublin which they are still tracking down .

    Apparently arrived from sunnier places .

    The Skerries cluster spreading ?


  • #6076
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Did anyone apologise to me for saying it's probably airborne?
    Or that masks are effective and should be worn
    Or that PPE in hospital setting completely inadequate?


    No didn't think so. 6 months ago.............:rolleyes:

    You have shown yourself to be a liar and you expect an apology. Love it.


  • #6077
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,149 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Finally , people are calling this guy out.

    Was doing that months ago when he was reciting chapter and verse every twitter post that guy made


  • #6078
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Was doing that months ago when he was reciting chapter and verse every twitter post that guy made

    Late to the party. Happy to call this guy out every time now.


  • #6079
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Finally , people are calling this guy out.

    Right so ted. Here's you 6 months ago. Some people are more right than others.
    Care to apologise? Imagine if someone listened to you, got infected and died?
    How would you live with yourself.

    FYI it's September
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I read up some more on the Spanish flu, its main victims were in the 20-30's age group.
    My response and every response I made here is to the amount of scaremongering that is taking place.
    The virus is here, it will spread and bar living in a closed environment we will all get exposed to it. All one can do is follow the hand hygiene advice. Masks are a nice placebo but basically worthless.
    Same carry on during the swine flu outbreak.
    On the upside, a vaccine is expected in September according to an expert on the Pat Kenny show yesterday. Impressive considering not long ago it would have taken 3 to 4 years to create a vaccine.


  • #6080
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Right so ted. Here's you 6 months ago. Some people are more right than others.
    Care to apologise? Imagine if someone listened to you, got infected and died?
    How would you live with yourself.

    Sorry dude, you don't even live in Ireland and have posted several false tweets, even found out by a young man here who has the respect of many posters no matter what opinion they hold .
    I won't use the language I want to describe your behaviour, you're not even worth an infraction.
    Lol have you learned anything in the last six months? I know I have.


  • #6081
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,149 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Sorry dude, you don't even live in Ireland and have posted several false tweets, even found out by a young man here who has the respect of many posters no matter what opinion they hold .
    I won't use the language I want to describe your behaviour, you're not even worth an infraction.

    I'll rescind that comment and apologise to caveat for it - was 95% sure but maybe confusing with another poster from a time many months ago


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  • #6082
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Right so ted. Here's you 6 months ago. Some people are more right than others.
    Care to apologise? Imagine if someone listened to you, got infected and died?
    How would you live with yourself.

    FYI it's September

    In fairness, even Dr Fauci was saying back then that masks were ineffective. Imagine someone listened to him, got infected and died. Oh wait, they probably did. Has he apologized?


  • #6083
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    fritzelly wrote: »
    I'll rescind that comment - was 95% sure but maybe confusing with another poster

    Do you have two accounts? Why rescind for someone else?


  • #6084
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,149 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Do you have two accounts? Why rescind for someone else?

    I made the inference (and maybe Plumb thinks I'm a young guy - I'm blushing)

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114524217


  • #6085
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Do you have two accounts? Why rescind for someone else?

    You referenced a comment of mine from six months ago, when I and everyone else have learned so much more. Yet you posted false information yesterday , what's your excuse?


  • #6086
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    175% increase isn't what I'd call stable.
    If you're inferring that the majority of hospital admissions are people going in for routine treatment and are found to be positive, and that number is increasing day in day out, well we have a larger issue then. People assume positive tests in hospitals are solely down to outpatient procedures or routine testing and none are people presenting with issues directly related to covid.

    I'd even assume person who was tested and was positive and subsequently admitted at a later date would also get tested. I don't know the ins and outs of the procedure about confirmed cases, but I'm sure a hospital would swab and test to confirm they are positive. Can't just take the patients word.

    This has been said by so many including some of the more logical positive posters I was beginning to actually go around at work checking for myself , doubting what I know is right !
    Nobody is kept in if positive with Covid , unless they are very ill in the first place .
    Anyone ADMITTED with Covid is too unwell and in respiratory distress or toxic , and needs acute treatment .
    Total bs saying that patients are kept in for a couple of days observation . Out the door with them asap!
    You might get a few cases in and a few cases out over a couple of days while that is happening, but not an inexorable rise as has been ongoing since mid August .

    And as for the ridiculous post from the anti masker , nobody would be able to refuse ventilation!
    Jeez if you are sick enough to require it you certainly would not be able to talk to refuse it !


  • #6087
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    In fairness, even Dr Fauci was saying back then that masks were ineffective. Imagine someone listened to him, got infected and died. Oh wait, they probably did. Has he apologized?

    My comment was six months ago , I 've learnt alot since then. Caevet was posting false information yesterday.


  • #6088
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    In fairness, even Dr Fauci was saying back then that masks were ineffective. Imagine someone listened to him, got infected and died. Oh wait, they probably did. Has he apologized?

    Yeah probably because they didn't have them. I'm not going to apologise for Dr Fauci. I told those who would listen, hopefully some listened.

    6 months ago.....
    caveat emptor. wrote: »
    China who has dealth with largest epidemic says necessary to go outside. I agree surgical masks are designed to keep disease in. Respirators which are the white 3M DIY looking masks are infact designed to keep contaminants out.

    So to summarise "they say masks no use" and hide in the half truth.

    Either way we don't have them. #Comebackstronger


  • #6089
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What are you on about, he was talking about supporters congregating before and after matches so guess what they are doing now, they are all congregating in the pub to watch it on TV instead. ****ing geniuses the whole lot of them.

    Haha, no they are not !
    Don't you know the pubs are closed?
    And the ones who thanked that post , lol .


  • #6090
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    My comment was six months ago , I 've learnt alot since then. Caevet was posting false information yesterday.

    You said I'm not from this country. That is deeply offencive. How dare you.
    You are clearly not retracting that so

    Some of the lies I think you've said.
    • two wives
    • son donated a kidney
    • mother saved by breast screening

    Care to apologise for your lies? or provide proof?


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  • #6091
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah probably because they didn't have them. I'm not going to apologise for Dr Fauci. I told those who would listen, hopefully some listened.

    6 months ago.....

    Thats the problem with posting false information, it's hard to get people to believe it when it's real. Thats assuming it is.


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