Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

niallo27 · 04-09-2020 11:39PM

Who is running the country, this bloke is on a total power trip. Noisy minority my hole.

fritzelly · 04-09-2020 11:46PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Who is running the country, this bloke is on a total power trip. Noisy minority my hole.

Good question? I still don't know

caveat emptor · 04-09-2020 11:59PM

Who says RTE is ****e. They have a musical duet singing the "marriage of Figaro" aka the shawshank redemption.
Judging the national mood well. Does feel like we are crawling through a **** pipe.

spookwoman · 05-09-2020 12:00AM

Full HSE operations reports for 3rd and 4th September
HSE operations report is published after 22.00hrs
03/09/2020

Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases Admitted across 29 acute sites
(Including CHI) 41 (+2)
Critical Care Beds 440 (-1)
Critical Care Beds Open 350 (+2)
Occupied / Reserved 291 (+4)
Occupied Reserved C19 7 (+1)
Available 40 (+1)
Vacant General 299 (+16)
Vacant Critical Care Public 40 (+1)
Vacant Critical Care Paediatric 1 (-1)
Vacant Critical Care Private 8(-1)
Confirmed Critical Care (7) / Suspected Critical Care 6
C19 Deaths 0 / Suspected Deaths 0
Confirmed Ventilated 6/ Suspected Ventilated 3

04/09/2020

Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases Admitted across 29 acute sites
(Including CHI) 47 (+6)
Critical Care Beds 440 (-)
Critical Care Beds Open 347 (-3)
Occupied / Reserved 283 (-8)
Occupied Reserved C19 7 (+1)
Available 49 (+9)
Vacant General 358 (+59)
Vacant Critical Care Public 49 (+9)
Vacant Critical Care Paediatric 3 (+2)
Vacant Critical Care Private 6(-2)
Confirmed Critical Care (7) / Suspected Critical Care 7
C19 Deaths 0 / Suspected Deaths 0
Confirmed Ventilated 6/ Suspected Ventilated 4

Rambling Man · 05-09-2020 12:02AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Who says RTE is ****e. They have a musical duet singing the "marriage of Figaro" aka the shawshank redemption.
Judging the national mood well. Does feel like we are crawling through a **** pipe.

What the **** are you on about, you sound like you’ve just had a substantial meal

thelad95 · 05-09-2020 12:20AM

I thought Glynn was a breath of fresh air tonight in spite of Ryan's child like line of questioning.

He's brilliant at deflating media hype and making you view this all through a real life context away from all the nonsense hyperbole and misinformation that gets spread daily.

To be fair he did hint heavily that once they're satisfied that the re-opening of schools has been done stably that we'd start looking at pubs, concerts and spectators at sporting events.

He's also dead right about congregations at GAA matches. Even now I see games where the substitutes are sitting shoulder to shoulder on the bench for nearly two hours. Utter stupidity.

caveat emptor · 05-09-2020 12:21AM

Rambling Man wrote: »

What the **** are you on about, you sound like you’ve just had a substantial meal

Turn on RTE1, Tapping into our psyche of facing hardship with song and story. might cheer you up.

I've never paid for a substantial meal thanks.

niallo27 · 05-09-2020 12:24AM

thelad95 wrote: »

I thought Glynn was a breath of fresh air tonight in spite of Ryan's child like line of questioning.

He's brilliant at deflating media hype and making you view this all through a real life context away from all the nonsense hyperbole and misinformation that gets spread daily.

To be fair he did hint heavily that once they're satisfied that the re-opening of schools has been done stably that we'd start looking at pubs, concerts and spectators at sporting events.

He's also dead right about congregations at GAA matches. Even now I see games where the substitutes are sitting shoulder to shoulder on the bench for nearly two hours. Utter stupidity.

What are you on about, he was talking about supporters congregating before and after matches so guess what they are doing now, they are all congregating in the pub to watch it on TV instead. ****ing geniuses the whole lot of them.

SPDUB · 05-09-2020 12:25AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Could there be a large outbreak at some workplace or similar. They did something similar on a couple of the early august outbreaks I believe and released them in one bulk?

There is apparently a large outbreak in part of Dublin which they are still tracking down .

Apparently arrived from sunnier places .

fritzelly · 05-09-2020 12:26AM

thelad95 wrote: »

I thought Glynn was a breath of fresh air tonight in spite of Ryan's child like line of questioning.

He basically said forget the vaccine and think about surviving the next 9 months with the virus
Kinda evaded the question about his thoughts on the vaccine

Now maybe he is saying in a roundabout way it will be 9 months before a vaccine will be rolled out but that is some kind of doom mongering saying there is no hope til summer next year

Rambling Man · 05-09-2020 12:32AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Turn on RTE1, Tapping into our psyche of facing hardship with song and story. might cheer you up.
I've never paid for a substantial meal thanks.

If you are talking about the Late Late Show its half an hour over but it might still be happening in your head. A variety show involves musical entertainment and topical discussion. Most people can handle it without feeling a conspiracy

manofwisdom · 05-09-2020 12:36AM

fritzelly wrote: »

He basically said forget the vaccine and think about surviving the next 9 months with the virus
Kinda evaded the question about his thoughts on the vaccine

Now maybe he is saying in a roundabout way it will be 9 months before a vaccine will be rolled out but that is some kind of doom mongering saying there is no hope til summer next year

Will be at least 9 months. The mumps vaccine has been considered the fastest ever approved and it took four years.

Ryan Tubridy seemed shocked by Dr Glynns mostly positive vibe in that interview. RTÉ really need to tone down on their doom and gloom routine for the watching public.

Rambling Man · 05-09-2020 12:38AM

niallo27 wrote: »

What are you on about, he was talking about supporters congregating before and after matches so guess what they are doing now, they are all congregating in the pub to watch it on TV instead. ****ing geniuses the whole lot of them.[

Don’t these people have TV’s at home?

caveat emptor · 05-09-2020 12:40AM

Rambling Man wrote: »

If you are talking about the Late Late Show its half an hour over but it might still be happening in your head. A variety show involves musical entertainment and topical discussion. Most people can handle it without feeling a conspiracy

Sorry, give it a rest. not the late late. I'm commenting on what's on TV now. How was your substantial meal? Are you still eating it?
Please go rambling ****e to someone else please.

Wolf359f · 05-09-2020 12:42AM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Will be at least 9 months. The mumps vaccine has been considered the fastest ever approved and it took four years.

Ryan Tubridy seemed shocked by Dr Glynns mostly positive vibe in that interview. RTÉ really need to tone down on their doom and gloom routine for the watching public.

If you ignore the Swine Flu vaccine, maybe.
It first appeared in January 2009 and a vaccine was widely distributed in November the same year, 10 months after the first case.

thelad95 · 05-09-2020 12:46AM

fritzelly wrote: »

He basically said forget the vaccine and think about surviving the next 9 months with the virus
Kinda evaded the question about his thoughts on the vaccine

Now maybe he is saying in a roundabout way it will be 9 months before a vaccine will be rolled out but that is some kind of doom mongering saying there is no hope til summer next year

Vaccine could be years away if ever. Even the 9 months is optimistic.

In any case he's not at the forefront of vaccine research and development, he probably doesn't know any more than me or you do as to when, if ever, that a vaccine could be distributed.

fritzelly · 05-09-2020 12:49AM

Were they not talking of the Oxford vaccine by the end of the year/early next year?

D.Q · 05-09-2020 12:51AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Were they not talking of the Oxford vaccine by the end of the year/early next year?

They were. All this "if ever" talk is deliberately disingenuous.

stephenjmcd · 05-09-2020 12:52AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Were they not talking of the Oxford vaccine by the end of the year/early next year?

Thats for initial approval and pending phase 3 data its still on track for that but even still if the phase 3 data is postive, your looking at probably emergency approval for frontline workers and the vulnerable for early 2021 and then everyone else mid 2021.

Personally I think Oxford will be first over the line but there's a few not far behind and would probably get approval during 2021, including J&J and pfizer

fritzelly · 05-09-2020 12:54AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Thats for initial approval and pending phase 3 data its still on track for that but even still if the phase 3 data is postive, your looking at probably emergency approval for frontline workers and the vulnerable for early 2021 and then everyone else mid 2021.

When is the phase 3 trial due to conclude and data be available do you know?

End of the day regardless of the vaccine we cannot be living in fear of it for another 3 months never mind 9 months

Wolf359f · 05-09-2020 12:56AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Were they not talking of the Oxford vaccine by the end of the year/early next year?

I think when the expects/politicians/WHO talk about the possible vaccine delivery, they mean on a mass global scale. There's probably going to be a vaccine approved by the end of the year and would have millions of doses ready. However there's nearly 8 billion on the planet, so it will be scarce at first.
You can't have, say the leader of a country say we'll have a vaccine by this date and only receive enough to vaccinate 1% of the population.
Unless you're Trump. I don't even think the Oxford vaccine will be produced in the US for fear of them taking all the doses.

fritzelly · 05-09-2020 01:00AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I think when the expects/politicians/WHO talk about the possible vaccine delivery, they mean on a mass global scale.

Ohh I understand that - even the flu vaccine has supply shortages some years
As long as the vulnerable can get it that's all that matters

stephenjmcd · 05-09-2020 01:02AM

fritzelly wrote: »

When is the phase 3 trial due to conclude and data be available do you know?

End of the day regardless of the vaccine we cannot be living in fear of it for another 3 months never mind 9 months

Phase 3 has been on going in a number of countries now for a few months.

The collection of data is always on going but judging from reports and those with more knowledge of vaccine development than myself, (the vaccine thread has lots of useful information) most seem to estimate October/November for the public release of existing phase 3 data. But keep in mind regulators are getting data pretty quick and that there appears to be side by side working between companies and regulators, which quickens the approval process

Wolf359f · 05-09-2020 01:04AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Ohh I understand that - even the flu vaccine has supply shortages some years
As long as the vulnerable can get it that's all that matters

I think once healthcare staff get it and also the most vulnerable (which after months and months dealing with it) the most vulnerable can be identified based on age and pre-existing conditions. Like earlier they assumed all those with asthma where a high risk, but not as much now etc...

If we get to that kind of position we could let certainly relax all restrictions.

stephenjmcd · 05-09-2020 01:07AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I think when the expects/politicians/WHO talk about the possible vaccine delivery, they mean on a mass global scale. There's probably going to be a vaccine approved by the end of the year and would have millions of doses ready. However there's nearly 8 billion on the planet, so it will be scarce at first.
You can't have, say the leader of a country say we'll have a vaccine by this date and only receive enough to vaccinate 1% of the population.
Unless you're Trump. I don't even think the Oxford vaccine will be produced in the US for fear of them taking all the doses.

Yup I'd share your sentiments that there'll be approval by year end on probably 1 vaccine with more to follow.

After that its priority first, WHO referenced today widespread vaccination not being possible until mid 2021 and that's perfectly realistic I think. If and hopefully when a vaccine is approved it'll be frontline and the vulnerable first in early 2021 followed by the rollout of a vaccine to everyone else mid 2021.

After that it would just remain to be seen how many take it.

caveat emptor · 05-09-2020 01:08AM

This research is concerning. More needed.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1301944793304649731?s=20

Wolf359f · 05-09-2020 01:10AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Phase 3 has been on going in a number of countries now for a few months.

The collection of data is always on going but judging from reports and those with more knowledge of vaccine development than myself, (the vaccine thread has lots of useful information) most seem to estimate October/November for the public release of existing phase 3 data. But keep in mind regulators are getting data pretty quick and that there appears to be side by side working between companies and regulators, which quickens the approval process

I have to say, I found it fascinating reading up on timelines for vaccines, and the longest phase was always the production, distribution and licencing issues.
These were pretty much eliminated right from the start with multiple sites setup, orders already placed and the potential vaccines already in mass production etc....

Makes you wonder what other world issues could be solved with the same outlook!

fritzelly · 05-09-2020 01:11AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

This research is concerning. More needed.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1301944793304649731?s=20

Christ would you ever go somewhere else (like your own countries forums) with your theoretical (and majority of the time fake news) twitter posts proclaiming the end of the world

podgeandrodge · 05-09-2020 01:13AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

This research is concerning. More needed.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1301944793304649731?s=20

Oh Christ...."we might be missing 9 out of 10 COVID19 infections in children. In the meantime, they're silently shedding virus in the community and schools"

Sick and ****in tired of what might be happening. Nobody dying, except the economy and the mental health of nearly all of us.

Wolf359f · 05-09-2020 01:16AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yup I'd share your sentiments that there'll be approval by year end on probably 1 vaccine with more to follow.

After that its priority first, WHO referenced today widespread vaccination not being possible until mid 2021 and that's perfectly realistic I think. If and hopefully when a vaccine is approved it'll be frontline and the vulnerable first in early 2021 followed by the rollout of a vaccine to everyone else mid 2021.

After that it would just remain to be seen how many take it.

One thing which will shed a light on world injustice, is if some countries start vacating non risk, non healthcare staff people before other 3rd world counties get to do their vulnerable. I know the oxford crew have India mass producing it to look after that region. It has to be rolled out worldwide on an equal platform.

I don't think it would set a nice example if the likes of the EU overpaid for excess amounts and we all had a party, while it's still ravaging other parts of the world. Reminds me of the Wuhan pool party!

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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