Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Ya for fcuk sake stop posting about the virus in a thread about the virus......derp

JJayoo wrote: »

Ya for fcuk sake stop posting about the virus in a thread about the virus......derp

That poster has from the time they have registered posted exclusively in the covid threads posting twitter post after twitter post with predictions of the end of the world from people who have nearly always been discredited, or very dubious backgrounds or the vaguest of data to back up the post
On top of that telling people in Ireland how they should be while not even living here

fritzelly wrote: »

That poster has from the time they have registered posted exclusively in the covid threads posting twitter post after twitter post with predictions of the end of the world from people who have nearly always been discredited, or very dubious backgrounds or the vaguest of data to back up the post
On top of that telling people in Ireland how they should be while not even living here

Or the certain posters banned from the mask thread and all they an talk about are masks on this one. Bloody annoys me.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So it can't be mentioned again? Are you setting the agenda of discussion here? Why considering the further regulations the restaurant/bar sector is subject to yet the meat processing industry has caused more out breaks.

What I meant was that is exactly what we had been saying .
Why do you always assume people are in disagreement with you ?
Maybe it's mostly true ...but on this occasion I wasn't !

fritzelly wrote: »

He basically said forget the vaccine and think about surviving the next 9 months with the virus
Kinda evaded the question about his thoughts on the vaccine

Now maybe he is saying in a roundabout way it will be 9 months before a vaccine will be rolled out but that is some kind of doom mongering saying there is no hope til summer next year

Or he could be passing on accurate information?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Icu and deaths true indicators of illness in a pandemic. Very stable at present. 175% increase in hospital in cases. Think you are not even serious there... You do know if I was in hospital with a broken leg and was tested and came up positive that would be as covid admission to hospital. Alot of people are brought to hospital as precaution maybe without serious illness.

Yes re ICU and deaths . No re the rest of your post .
Hospitalisation has gone up 175% .
Anybody who tests positive will , at all possible , be discharged/ treatment postponed .
Noone admitted unless unwell enough , it's taken too seriously bringing the virus in to any hospital
This was the case in July and early August too , so if by your logic these are just incidental occurrences and nothing else has changed , explain the rise ?

fritzelly wrote: »

Not really - I understand where he is coming from (doesn't want to commit to anything) but if all the signs are the vaccine will be here in the next 4 months then say that with a caveat not just come out and say we're living with it for at least another 9 months
Glynn is very different from Holohan - he seems to err very much on the side of expect the worst

"all the signs" now that's exact science! Their is also a chance something goes wrong or it takes a little longer. He may be giving his honest opinion. How can you be so sure it's all guaranteed to go swimmingly? I think you don't know but it's just an opinion that may be right or wrong.

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Also better understanding of the virus and therefore targeted treatment.

Quicker testing and treatment earlier in the infection cycle


Better understanding of symptoms to look out for. Catching it earlier.

Restrictions and guidelines protecting vulnerable main thing . Other things play their part but that is the main thing .

Let's call it what it is .

.anti restrictions crowd here would have you believe it's none of the above , just a cold initially , then like flu , no second wave , open all up , need a haircut , need a pint in a pub , don't want to wear a mask , now need to drink all day if they want , virus is weakening , rising cases not a second wave , increased cases in hospital doesn't mean anything , blah , blah and more fxxxing repetitive blah!

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Why are you quoting me out of context? I was responding to Fairies suggestion that it was a positive story and a calm evening.

Apologies, I didn't realise you were quoting someone else.

Gruffalox wrote: »

The obvious answer is that in March - in the early days - testing was poor. Now testing everywhere is much more organised.

This idea that the virus is weakening is unproven. It would be easy for researchers to prove it.

When Spain was having multiple times more deaths than now they likely had about that multiple amount more of cases.

They have recorded 440,000 about. Seroprevalence research would show them at 2 million to 2,500,000 cases. Squeeze in 5 or 6 times more cases with a massive peak in your data around 3rd April - their worst day for deaths - and you would be looking at case numbers that makes more sense.

Agree .
Can't always understand your figures but the logic is perfect . Thanks .

Deleted User wrote: »

Icu and deaths true indicators of illness in a pandemic. Very stable at present. 175% increase in hospital in cases. Think you are not even serious there... You do know if I was in hospital with a broken leg and was tested and came up positive that would be as covid admission to hospital. Alot of people are brought to hospital as precaution maybe without serious illness.

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes re ICU and deaths . No re the rest of your post .
Hospitalisation has gone up 175% .
Anybody who tests positive will , at all possible , be discharged/ treatment postponed .
Noone admitted unless unwell enough , it's taken too seriously bringing the virus in to any hospital
This was the case in July and early August too , so if by your logic these are just incidental occurrences and nothing else has changed , explain the rise ?

175% increase isn't what I'd call stable.
If you're inferring that the majority of hospital admissions are people going in for routine treatment and are found to be positive, and that number is increasing day in day out, well we have a larger issue then. People assume positive tests in hospitals are solely down to outpatient procedures or routine testing and none are people presenting with issues directly related to covid.

I'd even assume person who was tested and was positive and subsequently admitted at a later date would also get tested. I don't know the ins and outs of the procedure about confirmed cases, but I'm sure a hospital would swab and test to confirm they are positive. Can't just take the patients word.