Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Boggles · 03-09-2020 09:36AM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Pat Kenny and Luke O Neil going on about all the pharmaceutical products that are being released. They are trying their best to keep this thing going until the Pharma companies make their money off it. Luke O'Neill predicting we will all have a box of swabs to use daily in our houses every day. Gas how they think normal people can afford this, many not even working anymore.

Pat and Luke are keeping a once in a generation pandemic going so big pharma can make money?

Okay then.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 09:36AM

For balance against the misery peddling.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-woman-106-believed-to-be-uks-oldest-patient-to-recover-from-covid-19-leaves-hospital-11973624

03-09-2020 09:45AM

I can only see one ICU death in August. Is there anywhere we can see the admissions over the same period. Seems like icu recovery is a lot higher than it has been. Age profile of icu cases was always much lower than deaths, so that’s not the explanation

GooglePlus · 03-09-2020 09:47AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Normality already returning...
Ireland collected far more income tax in August than it had expected early in the coronavirus pandemic, beating forecasts for the fourth successive month and
helping keep the year-on-year decline in the overall tax take to 2.3% in 2020 so far.

That's great but people still have disposable income and are still riding the wave of our past prosperity. The real economic shock from this will be further down the road.

partyguinness · 03-09-2020 09:54AM

This obsession about numbers is a little troubling and a bit sad really. Looking in from the outside I can't help but draw the conclusion that quite a few in Ireland (if this thread is anything to go by) have lost all perspective and seem to wallow in the misery.

It's like looking at auld lads and ladies obsessing over the death announcements in the local papers every morning to see who is dead. The weather, death and C19 related deaths is the new small talk.

Every other country in Europe is moving on. Time for Ireland to wake up and get out on with it. Enough already.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 09:58AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Did this 23 year old actually end up in ICU or are RTE wheeling out crisis actors?

Heart and lung failure. Direct result of Covid. Who to believe.

Fair play to him sharing his experience.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1301429981705318402?s=20

In short Owen got very sick , has recovered and is back at work.

Marty Bird · 03-09-2020 10:01AM

]Did this 23 year old actually end up in ICU or are RTE wheeling out crisis actors?

Heart and lung failure. Direct result of Covid. Who to believe.

Fair play to him sharing his experience.

It really is a crazy virus my brothers father in law tested positive a couple of months back he is 90 and he had no issues.

Hawthorn Tree · 03-09-2020 10:03AM

partyguinness wrote: »

It's like looking at auld lads and ladies obsessing over the death announcements in the local papers every morning to see who is dead.

It is.

I haven't watched one of those HSE press conferences since April but I know people that are glued to them on a daily basis!

Gerry Hatrick · 03-09-2020 10:05AM

partyguinness wrote: »

This obsession about numbers is a little troubling and a bit sad really. Looking in from the outside I can't help but draw the conclusion that quite a few in Ireland (if this thread is anything to go by) have lost all perspective and seem to wallow in the misery.

It's like looking at auld lads and ladies obsessing over the death announcements in the local papers every morning to see who is dead. The weather, death and C19 related deaths is the new small talk.

Every other country in Europe is moving on. Time for Ireland to wake up and get out on with it. Enough already.

Have you seen the figures coming out of Spain, France and Italy recently. Everyone else most certainly isn't moving on.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 10:05AM

Marty Bird wrote: »

]Did this 23 year old actually end up in ICU or are RTE wheeling out crisis actors?

Heart and lung failure. Direct result of Covid. Who to believe.

Fair play to him sharing his experience.

It really is a crazy virus my brothers father in law tested positive a couple of months back he is 90 and he had no issues.

You should contact RTE and inquire would they like to highlight a positive story, I can guess the response though.

Charles Babbage · 03-09-2020 10:06AM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Pat Kenny and Luke O Neil going on about all the pharmaceutical products that are being released. They are trying their best to keep this thing going until the Pharma companies make their money off it. Luke O'Neill predicting we will all have a box of swabs to use daily in our houses every day. Gas how they think normal people can afford this, many not even working anymore.

Did it ever occur to you that if there are new testing techniques that everyone will be working because that will effectively eliminate the virus? The cost of these tests is less than not having people working.

KrustyUCC · 03-09-2020 10:17AM

Varadkar playing a blinder

Story out there now that he wanted the pubs open

If they open pubs he gets the credit for the pubs reopening

If the pubs don't reopen Martin and FF get the blame

RocketRaccoon · 03-09-2020 10:18AM

So my wife has just text me to say her workplace(a factory) now have messages on their notice boards and TVs that masks are NOT to be worn in work, this is despite the fact that 2 workers have tested positive in the last 4 days. Surely this isn't allowed, the masks wouldn't effect the job being done so I cannot see the reasoning. The 2 workers were in the factory up until the day before they got their positive results.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 10:19AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Varadkar playing a blinder

Story out there now that he wanted the pubs open

If they open pubs he gets the credit for the pubs reopening

If the pubs don't reopen Martin and FF get the blame

Varadkar is behaving as if he is in opposition, he under advice from Nphet closed the pubs. I suspect if he were still Taoiseach he would be in no rush to reopen them. He is attempting to become more populist than SF and that takes some doing tbh.

Away With The Fairies · 03-09-2020 10:23AM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

So my wife has just text me to say her workplace(a factory) now have messages on their notice boards and TVs that masks are NOT to be worn in work, this is despite the fact that 2 workers have tested positive in the last 4 days. Surely this isn't allowed, the masks wouldn't effect the job being done so I cannot see the reasoning. The 2 workers were in the factory up until the day before they got their positive results.

That's horrible. These large workplaces should be done for endangering their staff.

OscarMIlde · 03-09-2020 10:25AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

About 750 died of cancer in August yet they have shut down a lot of cancer testing.

We haven't shut down cancer testing. Cancer Molecular Diagnostics in St. James's has been fully functional throughout this period.

RocketRaccoon · 03-09-2020 10:27AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

That's horrible. These large workplaces should be done for endangering their staff.

Over 700 staff

partyguinness · 03-09-2020 10:28AM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Have you seen the figures coming out of Spain, France and Italy recently. Everyone else most certainly isn't moving on.

That is exact proof that everyone is moving on hence the increase in testing and positives.

Increase in positives is absolutely inevitable as economies open up. This needs to be accepted if we are to 'move on'. Ireland seems to a bit slow in accepting this.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 10:28AM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

So my wife has just text me to say her workplace(a factory) now have messages on their notice boards and TVs that masks are NOT to be worn in work, this is despite the fact that 2 workers have tested positive in the last 4 days. Surely this isn't allowed, the masks wouldn't effect the job being done so I cannot see the reasoning. The 2 workers were in the factory up until the day before they got their positive results.

These are the HSE guidelines. If your wife thinks there is a breach she can contact the HSA. I would be interested to know the reasoning behind your wife's employers dictate and is social distancing adhered too.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/face-masks-disposable-gloves.html

Away With The Fairies · 03-09-2020 10:31AM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Over 700 staff

That's alot. Such a large workplace, so if people get sick, how will the hospitals cope? Isn't this what it's meant be about not to put pressure on the hospitals?

It's beyond me how masks aren't mandatory in all indoor settings. This shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Boggles · 03-09-2020 10:32AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Varadkar playing a blinder

Story out there now that he wanted the pubs open

If they open pubs he gets the credit for the pubs reopening

If the pubs don't reopen Martin and FF get the blame

It was pretty telegraphed TBF.

Pubs cannot open before schools, get the schools open first and then the pubs.

Politics before science always ends in tears.

KrustyUCC · 03-09-2020 10:34AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Varadkar is behaving as if he is in opposition, he under advice from Nphet closed the pubs. I suspect if he were still Taoiseach he would be in no rush to reopen them. He is attempting to become more populist than SF and that takes some doing tbh.

All true

Still he's clever with his strategic leaks to the Indo

When the government falls FG will be in a far better position than FF the way things are going

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 10:37AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

All true

Still he's clever with his strategic leaks to the Indo

When the government falls FG will be in a far better position than FF the way things are going

Possibly, but many will see Varadkars behaviour as cynical game playing.
Running with the hare and running with the hounds.
He is a vacuous individual whose only interest is self promotion based on what way the wind is blowing.
His behaviour in recent referendum back this up.
Coveney as much as I dislike him is a more honest and genuine person.

Erranged · 03-09-2020 10:42AM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Pat Kenny and Luke O Neil going on about all the pharmaceutical products that are being released. They are trying their best to keep this thing going until the Pharma companies make their money off it. Luke O'Neill predicting we will all have a box of swabs to use daily in our houses every day. Gas how they think normal people can afford this, many not even working anymore.

Wtf is it with starting the program everyday with it

Also Luke O'Neill is too laddish with the presentation

pc7 · 03-09-2020 10:44AM

From 17th of September and the 'tree fiddy' gets cut back, MM will be the face of that too, LV is playing the game so well. I don't see the government lasting 6 months personally, FF will be wiped out.

Non solum non ambulabit · 03-09-2020 10:44AM

Erranged wrote: »

Wtf is it with starting the program everyday with it

Just twice a week

Erranged · 03-09-2020 10:48AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Varadkar playing a blinder

Story out there now that he wanted the pubs open

If they open pubs he gets the credit for the pubs reopening

If the pubs don't reopen Martin and FF get the blame

Devils advocate

If they don't reopen

He's seen as ineffective and weak

drunkmonkey · 03-09-2020 10:49AM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

So my wife has just text me to say her workplace(a factory) now have messages on their notice boards and TVs that masks are NOT to be worn in work, this is despite the fact that 2 workers have tested positive in the last 4 days. Surely this isn't allowed, the masks wouldn't effect the job being done so I cannot see the reasoning. The 2 workers were in the factory up until the day before they got their positive results.

There are inherent dangers with masks, good to see some employers being proactive and saying no to this dangerous practice. I assume they looked at CCTV and went Jesus Christ this madness has to stop, they probably touched the front or their masks and put that viral load on everything they touched.

Boggles · 03-09-2020 10:50AM

pc7 wrote: »

From 17th of September and the 'tree fiddy' gets cut back, MM will be the face of that too, LV is playing the game so well. I don't see the government lasting 6 months personally, FF will be wiped out.

General Election during a pandemic?

That would be a brave thing to do.

mightyreds · 03-09-2020 10:50AM

pc7 wrote: »

From 17th of September and the 'tree fiddy' gets cut back, MM will be the face of that too, LV is playing the game so well. I don't see the government lasting 6 months personally, FF will be wiped out.

I'm not into politics at all and most of my family wouldn't be looking at the daily going on either but I can see it in them anytime I'm talking to immediate or extended family , the message is Leo played a blinder and MM is making a balls of it and messing up all Leo's great work. So its working on the people not keeping a close eye

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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