Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

EDit · 03-09-2020 07:37AM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

I have no problem “with the knowledge of today” but we are not learning from that knowledge and that is the worrying aspect.

The recent increase was unnecessarily large because of complacency by the State - known risks were ignored and Visibly removing test centres and scaling back contributed to this. They have two weeks to deliver a sustainable strategic path ahead.

I agree re: the we’re not learning part, i’m just cynical whenever i read about calls for inquiries. IMO, inquiries only serve to line the pockets of a small group (at the expense of the tax-payer) and the findings tend not to have any real-world value. Its a form of lip-service.

Funsterdelux · 03-09-2020 07:46AM

Erranged wrote: »

I see people stepping into the road when you're approaching them on the footpath

Not the safest, I said it to someone that you really don't need to do that

I hate when people do that,

Is it a symptom of Covid?

is_that_so · 03-09-2020 08:08AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

I hate when people do that,

Is it a symptom of Covid?

Just observing the advice. It's just easier to do for some. Crossing the road was a thing in the very early days!

is_that_so · 03-09-2020 08:14AM

A reflection on the perception of so-called "COVIDIOTS".

Part of the problem, then, is the way that attention-grabbing stories create a distorted view of adherence to Covid restrictions. In fact, what is remarkable is just how much people are abiding by the rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/02/selfish-covidiots-blame-british-government-greek

Here's a paper from one of the links referenced in the piece on the kind of moralising that can occur around distancing behaviour.

COVID‐19 mitigating practices such as ‘hand‐washing’, ‘social distancing’, or ‘social isolating’ are constructed as ‘moral imperatives’, required to avert harm to oneself and others.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12399

Beasty · 03-09-2020 08:14AM

1123heavy wrote: »

this virus is very soon going to be revealed to be the hoax it truly is, don't get me wrong the virus does exist, but it is being manipulated by those in power for their gain and we the citizens are paying the price. There is big news yet to be made public

Another conspiracy theorist - there have been plenty of warnings and it's clearly there in the OP. Do not post that sort of stuff in this thread

You are now threadbanned

caveat emptor · 03-09-2020 08:20AM

The Rock and Family contracted it. He does not want to get it again and is implementing stricter rules in his house.
Testing anybody that wants to come over.

https://twitter.com/Complex/status/1301327394284937217?s=20

03-09-2020 08:20AM

Why do RTÉ continue to include the below in articles about Covid?
If the below was the case, given it takes 7 to 10 days for hospital admissions to show up, we would currently have 20+ new admissions to hospital every day, with 5+ new admissions to icu every day.

“80% of Covid-19 infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection, requiring oxygen and 5% are critical, requiring ventilation.”

Information on the virus has moved on significantly, and we now know the figures are probably closer to 7-9% and 1-2%

Funsterdelux · 03-09-2020 08:22AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

The Rock and Family contracted it. He does not want to get it again and is implementing stricter rules in his house.
Testing anybody that wants to come over.

https://twitter.com/Complex/status/1301327394284937217?s=20

You mean Covid19 has contracted The Rock!

03-09-2020 08:24AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Just observing the advice. It's just easier to do for some. Crossing the road was a thing in the very early days!

The advice specifically says “there is very little risk if you are just passing someone”

is_that_so · 03-09-2020 08:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The advice specifically says “there is very little risk if you are just passing someone”

People process that information in different ways, some of them very extreme. I don't fault them for it. I saw masks on people yesterday in the torrential rain.

Widdensushi · 03-09-2020 08:33AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

I hate when people do that,

Is it a symptom of Covid?

I would be of the opinion that it is near impossible to catch it from people outside but I would step off the footpath as I would be mindful of the other persons opinion, especially if older than me.

ninebeanrows · 03-09-2020 08:42AM

Something that will always stick with me after this pandemic was about a woman who called Joe Duffy.

It must have been early April. The woman would visit her son's grave every evening to give her peace before trying to sleep, she did it every day for 10 years or something (open to correction on this). The grave was around 5 or 10km drive from her house. She admitted she was still visiting the grave despite the restrictions but was saying how much she needed it. The poor lady was hounded out of it by listeners and bullied by Joe Duffy. Eventually apologised and said she will not visit the grave.

Can you imagine? We had so many busy bodies and curtain twitchers in this country they hounded out a poor woman for visiting her son's grave?

I remember thinking how this trip could in anyway have led to spread of the virus. How did we allow ourselves to become so manic and think so illogically.

Lots of horrible things like this occurred during lockdown but this one will always stay with me, it illustrates just how nasty people can be and how this government really mis-handled the messaging and went far to extreme with the measures imposed.

copeyhagen · 03-09-2020 08:46AM

one word, RTE, well, you get what i meant

03-09-2020 08:52AM

is_that_so wrote: »

People process that information in different ways, some of them very extreme. I don't fault them for it. I saw masks on people yesterday in the torrential rain.

Thing is they would likely reduce risk by avoiding such behaviour. I have seen people blindly step into the streets rather than be within 2 meters for just a second. You also see those folks who when you accidentally come fave to face with in a supermarket, step back and stop, still facing you. Would be much better to say excuse me, step aside and move on, as we normally would. Social distancing is for situations where we are going to be stationary in the company of others, or together for a period of time. Outside of crowded environments, most of the rules of social distancing can be applied through basic manners, applicable at any time

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 08:54AM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Something that will always stick with me after this pandemic was about a woman who called Joe Duffy.

It must have been early April. The woman would visit her son's grave every evening to give her peace before trying to sleep, she did it every day for 10 years or something (open to correction on this). The grave was around 5 or 10km drive from her house. She admitted she was still visiting the grave despite the restrictions but was saying how much she needed it. The poor lady was hounded out of it by listeners and bullied by Joe Duffy. Eventually apologised and said she will not visit the grave.

Can you imagine? We had so many busy bodies and curtain twitchers in this country they hounded out a poor woman for visiting her son's grave?

I remember thinking how this trip could in anyway have led to spread of the virus. How did we allow ourselves to become so manic and think so illogically.

Lots of horrible things like this occurred during lockdown but this one will always stay with me, it illustrates just how nasty people can be and how this government really mis-handled the messaging and went far to extreme with the measures imposed.

I remember listening to that piece, I felt sorry for the lady in question but I asked myself why would she even ring the likes of that gob****e and ask for advice.
I hope she resumed visiting.

Boggles · 03-09-2020 08:57AM

Why was she looking for advice?

Keep your head down and visit the grave, announcing it on an national radio program sounds like someone who was craving attention or looking to rattle some jimmies.

Anyway if you are judging societies reaction by fúcking Joe Duffy or the absolute cretins who partake in the show, you are doing it wrong.

His show is archived, anyone want to link to it there?

Funsterdelux · 03-09-2020 08:58AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

I would be of the opinion that it is near impossible to catch it from people outside but I would step off the footpath as I would be mindful of the other persons opinion, especially if older than me.

Nothings impossible, wrong place wrong time. Like a bird****e

I would often step out of the way too even before this pandemic, but keeping an ear or eye on traffic

phormium · 03-09-2020 08:59AM

I remember that too but thought the reason she rang was because the graveyard had locked the gate but could be wrong too at this stage! That main discussion was about locked graveyards as several people rang in on it, one said she used to see an elderly man climbing over the wall to visit his wife's grave and he was really too old for that sort of thing!

At the time I was surprised as our local graveyard always had open gates all through lockdown as I often went for a walk there in the mornings, work went on there with headstones etc throughout.

Gerry Hatrick · 03-09-2020 08:59AM

1123heavy wrote: »

this virus is very soon going to be revealed to be the hoax it truly is, don't get me wrong the virus does exist, but it is being manipulated by those in power for their gain and we the citizens are paying the price. There is big news yet to be made public

Aliens?

is_that_so · 03-09-2020 09:00AM

Boggles wrote: »

Why was she looking for advice?

Keep your head down and visit the grave, announcing it on an national radio program sounds like someone who was craving attention or looking to rattle some jimmies.

Anyway if you are judging societies reaction by fúcking Joe Duffy or the absolute cretins who partake in the show, you are doing it wrong.

His show is archived, anyone want to link to it there?

People need to talk and he's constantly inveigling people to "Talk to Joe".

Funsterdelux · 03-09-2020 09:02AM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Aliens?

Dont be silly, reptillians.

Or their scientific name Homo Reptilia

boggerman1 · 03-09-2020 09:05AM

copeyhagen wrote: »

one word, RTE, well, you get what i meant

Morning Ireland today ramping up the fear again.it needs to stop

Erranged · 03-09-2020 09:09AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

I would be of the opinion that it is near impossible to catch it from people outside but I would step off the footpath as I would be mindful of the other persons opinion, especially if older than me.

You can but you shouldn't imo

It's creating a worse hazard by stepping on the road

is_that_so · 03-09-2020 09:12AM

boggerman1 wrote: »

Morning Ireland today ramping up the fear again.it needs to stop

TBH very few of them have been able to balance information with that giddy journalistic need to break a story. I do like the weekly Fergal Bowers pieces; very sober reflections and generally well-written.

Onesea · 03-09-2020 09:17AM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Aliens?

No not aliens, just the biggest over reaction ever. An over reaction so bad governments don't know how to revert to normality.
The focus will turn to the economical hardship soon enough.

odyssey06 · 03-09-2020 09:19AM

Onesea wrote: »

No not aliens, just the biggest over reaction ever. An over reaction so bad governments don't know how to revert to normality.
The focus will turn to the economical hardship soon enough.

Normality already returning...
Ireland collected far more income tax in August than it had expected early in the coronavirus pandemic, beating forecasts for the fourth successive month and
helping keep the year-on-year decline in the overall tax take to 2.3% in 2020 so far.

zerosugarbuzz · 03-09-2020 09:25AM

Pat Kenny and Luke O Neil going on about all the pharmaceutical products that are being released. They are trying their best to keep this thing going until the Pharma companies make their money off it. Luke O'Neill predicting we will all have a box of swabs to use daily in our houses every day. Gas how they think normal people can afford this, many not even working anymore.

Onesea · 03-09-2020 09:26AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Normality already returning...
Ireland collected far more income tax in August than it had expected early in the coronavirus pandemic, beating forecasts for the fourth successive month and
helping keep the year-on-year decline in the overall tax take to 2.3% in 2020 so far.

I am really glad to hear that

caveat emptor · 03-09-2020 09:33AM

Did this 23 year old actually end up in ICU or are RTE wheeling out crisis actors?

Heart and lung failure. Direct result of Covid. Who to believe.

Fair play to him sharing his experience.

Apart from losing his sense of taste and smell, Owen had no other symptoms.
The loss of taste and smell were not recognised symptoms of Covid-19 at that time.
The virus passed through Owen and he carried on as usual.

Two months later his world fell apart.
On 2 May, Owen was admitted to Cork University Hospital - an unnerving reversal from doctor to patient at the hospital where he was working.

Initially, his admission was purely precautionary, for fluids, monitoring and treatment of stomach pains. What he and his doctors did not realise until much later was that he was suffering from post-Covid syndrome.

From that point things went downhill rapidly. Within two days, Owen was transferred to intensive care. He spent a week there,
during which he suffered heart and lung failure. His heart was functioning at less than one third of its normal work rate.
Owen could have died - and he nearly did.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1301429981705318402?s=20

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 09:34AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Normality already returning...
Ireland collected far more income tax in August than it had expected early in the coronavirus pandemic, beating forecasts for the fourth successive month and
helping keep the year-on-year decline in the overall tax take to 2.3% in 2020 so far.

There is nothing normal about a 9.5 billion euro deficit.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0902/1162822-exchequer-deficit-climbed-to-9-5bn-by-end-of-august/

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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