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How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    I'm alright Jack.

    Glad I'm out there and was during the pandemic working to keep you on full pay.

    And thank you for helping keep the €350 rolling in for so many of us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,133 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    And thank you for helping keep the €350 rolling in for so many of us

    You're welcome.

    Someone has to do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    I'm alright Jack.

    Glad I'm out there and was during the pandemic working to keep you on full pay.

    Too right. Now back to the sewers peasant :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Blondini wrote: »
    When I can be paid to sit at home?

    Think I'll pass on that one sweetcheeks :cool:

    If that makes you happy with your lot well then good for you.

    It's becoming more and more apparent that Covid lockdown is paradise for introverts and gives certain others an excuse to do nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭F5500


    Great to be back this week and students have been excellent.

    Realistically it's a matter of time before partial or full closures on a school by school basis, but there's a willingness amongst staff and students to work things as best we can.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭alroley


    Honestly loving being back teaching in person and seeing my colleagues. The lack of social distancing in most classrooms is scary though. My first years asked me why they were not social distancing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    First off thanks and well done to teachers for their part in getting kids back to school- I was in two minds about weather to go down the home school route or not but ultimately my daughter wanted to go back to school. Her mood, demeanour and out look has been brilliant being back in school seeing her friends and her teacher. All your efforts are very much appreciated!


    Secondly this thread in weird-
    We all know by now that Covid-19 is a roller coaster, one day/week things look positive the next quite the opposite. The way these ups and downs are shared and portrayed here is mental- posters who pop in to link articles they’ve read (or not) but only post negative stuff, then when there are positive things posted there is actually an air of begrudgery from these posters.

    Ultimately we live in a world where we have to learn to live with this- there will be further ups and downs, school closures, clusters etc
    Most countries are muddling their way through this, some with more success than others but even then it’s ever changing- one week we should be more like New Zealand now Sweden are back in a favourable position after being the bad(worst) example a few weeks ago!

    Let’s hope the school situation can be managed, there’s no perfect solution and I know there are some who doubt strongly that it will, but seeing kids back in school and happy to be learning amongst their peers makes you realise we owed it to them to try.

    Hopefully we’ll look at Reeling in the Years somewhere down the road (not too far hopefully) and say- ‘Ah remember that Covid stuff, mad wasn’t it‘ before changing the channel and forgetting about it as part of history.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Numerous posts deleted

    Back on topic everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Anyone know of any secondary schools where masks aren't required attire in the classroom?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Anyone know of any secondary schools where masks aren't required attire in the classroom?


    I thought it was only a requirement where distancing can't be done?


    But I'm lost at this point what's mandatory and whats a recommendation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Voltairey


    Hello, just for anyone who read my earlier post about being "extremely vulnerable" category and being only judged as high risk by Medmark.

    Finally today they signed me off. They really put me through the ringer, I had to send six emails today alone and all documentation was sourced on my lunchbreaks. I so hope that anyone else in my position is not left waiting too long. All I could think when I heard about the two schools in Dublin and one in Clare were "I hope there are no staff working there who could die because they weren't signed off in time".

    Now begins the wait to see if I got infected during work in the last week. I'll be doing my job remotely, whatever that means. It's all still to be figured out but I know for sure that tonight as soon as my head hits the pillow I'll be able to sleep because I won't be wracked with worry about the hundreds of people I'll potentially be coming into contact with when I wake.

    Hope everything is going well for everyone else with their new term. There was such a buzz of excitement around the place and all the kids were so delighted to be back. I've never seen them behave so well or work so diligently. I'm very sad that I won't be in the room but hopefully some time in the next year there might be a vaccine and I'll be first in line to get it so I can get back in to them and do what comes so naturally again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    You're definitely not alone in your situation.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/hundreds-of-teachers-at-high-risk-from-covid-19-told-to-come-to-work-1.4345104

    I can't even imagine having to go into a workplace for six to eight hours a day with unpredictable, unmasked children and be told I can only wear a visor and a felt mask with a window in it so they can see my mouth fogging up (actual situation in my cousins school - she is very high risk and waiting on an appeal from Medmark).

    I don't know if anyone here has worn a visor and mask while running around the place for a while. The amount of condensation that forms on the interior of them is tropical.

    Fair dues and I hope you didn't get unlucky during the week, though I'd imagine, being clued in, you took every precaution. It was probably a relief for a lot of the reasonable parents of kids in the class to know the person responsible for their child was somebody who is taking the situation seriously. It must have been fairly stressful for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    s1ippy wrote: »
    You're definitely not alone in your situation.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/hundreds-of-teachers-at-high-risk-from-covid-19-told-to-come-to-work-1.4345104

    I can't even imagine having to go into a workplace for six to eight hours a day with unpredictable, unmasked children and be told I can only wear a visor and a felt mask with a window in it so they can see my mouth fogging up (actual situation in my cousins school - she is very high risk and waiting on an appeal from Medmark).

    I don't know if anyone here has worn a visor and mask while running around the place for a while. The amount of condensation that forms on the interior of them is tropical.

    Fair dues and I hope you didn't get unlucky during the week, though I'd imagine, being clued in, you took every precaution. It was probably a relief for a lot of the reasonable parents of kids in the class to know the person responsible for their child was somebody who is taking the situation seriously. It must have been fairly stressful for you.

    Bike visor spray will help the visor not fog up


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    s1ippy wrote: »
    You're definitely not alone in your situation.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/hundreds-of-teachers-at-high-risk-from-covid-19-told-to-come-to-work-1.4345104

    I can't even imagine having to go into a workplace for six to eight hours a day with unpredictable, unmasked children and be told I can only wear a visor and a felt mask with a window in it so they can see my mouth fogging up (actual situation in my cousins school - she is very high risk and waiting on an appeal from Medmark).

    I don't know if anyone here has worn a visor and mask while running around the place for a while. The amount of condensation that forms on the interior of them is tropical.

    Fair dues and I hope you didn't get unlucky during the week, though I'd imagine, being clued in, you took every precaution. It was probably a relief for a lot of the reasonable parents of kids in the class to know the person responsible for their child was somebody who is taking the situation seriously. It must have been fairly stressful for you.

    Who is saying this? The principal?
    I'd not be obeying that directive. Sounds like a bully...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭egan2020


    Anyone know of any secondary schools where masks aren't required attire in the classroom?

    My sixth year daughter doesn't have to wear one in Business because there aren't that many students in the class so they can manage social distancing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    So given we don't really know the long term effects of this disease what's an acceptable number of kids infected. Should we wait for a kids hospital to be under pressure? In Germany doctors are warning of that.
    The infections in schools and daycare centres is not being covered in the media in Germany.
    Seems to be part of the strategy. There's 800 closures of classes there but it's not reported.
    People having to collate the info from local papers. I wouldn't hold them up as a shining example. Their hospital capacity vastly outweighs ours.
    Already a school has had to close in Limerick due to staff having to isolate.

    Already 759 schools / daycare centers #Corona .

    How can it be in #Deutschland none from
    @rki_de
    is there a list of all affected institutions?
    That you have to laboriously gather information from the local press instead?

    https://twitter.com/cthulhcc/status/1300515146012426240?s=20


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 962 ✭✭✭irishblessing


    So given we don't really know the long term effects of this disease what's an acceptable number of kids infected. Should we wait for a kids hospital to be under pressure? In Germany doctors are warning of that.
    The infections in schools and daycare centres is not being covered in the media in Germany.
    Seems to be part of the strategy. There's 800 closures of classes there but it's not reported.
    People having to collate the info from local papers. I wouldn't hold them up as a shining example. Their hospital capacity vastly outweighs ours.
    Already a school has had to close in Limerick due to staff having to isolate.https://twitter.com/cthulhcc/status/1300515146012426240?s=20

    Jesus.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    My son was back last week and the school seems to be operating well. My daughter went back today and has ended up in the room with no windows. Great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    So given we don't really know the long term effects of this disease what's an acceptable number of kids infected. Should we wait for a kids hospital to be under pressure? In Germany doctors are warning of that.
    The infections in schools and daycare centres is not being covered in the media in Germany.
    Seems to be part of the strategy. There's 800 closures of classes there but it's not reported.
    People having to collate the info from local papers. I wouldn't hold them up as a shining example. Their hospital capacity vastly outweighs ours.
    Already a school has had to close in Limerick due to staff having to isolate.
    There's really not an awful lot of news in something that is absolutely going to happen anyway. As has been said there is no zero risk but a lot of downsides to kids not going back to school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    is_that_so wrote: »
    There's really not an awful lot of news in something that is absolutely going to happen anyway. As has been said there is no zero risk but a lot of downsides to kids not going back to school.

    How the virus reacts in schools particularly in Europe is probably one of the biggest stories of interest since this pandemic started and should really be a hot topic now given the entire scientific community is looking at it with fingers crossed.

    Perceived suppression of the information nationally would not be new, Sweden were accused of the exact same thing, Sweden in fact refused by and large to test students, a pretty selfish act considering that information could have been used by the rest of the EU to formulate a coherent back to school strategy.

    Yes "zero risk" in everything, kids need schooling or whatever other tired cliche this virus doesn't really give 2 fúcks about.

    We are all being asked to act responsibly and adjust our behavior accordingly, I always find this can be achieved better with transparent factual information.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Scotland health officials said transmission in school detected.

    There's one white lie dismissed. Of course it'll never be known here as it won't be made public. (on purpose)

    i.e "kids don't transmit it in school"

    https://twitter.com/DeeGilhawley/status/1301431200725204993?s=20


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    TheTorment wrote: »
    Who is saying this? The principal?
    I'd not be obeying that directive. Sounds like a bully...
    The INTO. They said in their back to school seminar that children need to see facial expressions so no mask or one with a clear window should be worn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    There's one white lie dismissed. Of course it'll never be known here as it won't be made public. (on purpose)

    i.e "kids don't transmit it in school"

    Who is being lied to?

    We were told school transmission would be uncommon we weren't told it wouldn't happen, in fact Ronan Glynn has said that cases were to be expected in school.

    "He said that while there are no "zero risk options" for reopening schools or any other environment, "international evidence shows us that child-to-child and child-to-adult transmission of Covid-19 in schools is uncommon".

    There will be coronavirus cases among children over the coming days and weeks, as there have been throughout this pandemic, he wrote".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    s1ippy wrote: »
    The INTO. They said in their back to school seminar that children need to see facial expressions so no mask or one with a clear window should be worn.

    Maybe they misinterpreted something but I find that hard to believe when they are also 'calling for' 6 year olds to wear masks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Locotastic wrote: »

    "He said that while there are no "zero risk options" for reopening schools or any other environment, "international evidence shows us that child-to-child and child-to-adult transmission of Covid-19 in schools is uncommon".
    .

    Depends on how you define "uncommon", it's uncommon for a cat to get Covid.

    Also the international evidence he has hung his hat on, is pretty slim and no where close to consensus, particularly when applied to the Irish School System.

    But what they are essentially telling us is, it is uncommon for humans under the age of 19 to transmit Covid to any other humans in an indoor environment.

    Because "science".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Is Corona the new 'muslims are raping our women and it's not being covered by media' story? It's the same bs by what I suspect are the same posters.

    Nobody is covering up stories, if anything there is too much news on it and like 40 schools in Berlin example it's being made a lot worse than it is. Germany doesn't do centralised data well because there is a lot of regional autonomy. School openings and requirements for schools is what regional governments deal with. Glasgow case is one and there are probably more student to student transmissions. However less likely doesn't equal it won't happen.

    Accusations about cover up in Sweden are very handy for the 'muslims raus' crowd who consider Sweden liberal hell hole. I don't like their smugness around Corona but they are not hiding information.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Edit: picture only half uploaded
    Locotastic wrote: »
    Maybe they misinterpreted something but I find that hard to believe when they are also 'calling for' 6 year olds to wear masks.
    From their Webinar. Virtually all primary school teachers have children with learning difficulties their class.

    525161.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Is Corona the new 'muslims are raping our women and it's not being covered by media' story? It's the same bs by what I suspect are the same posters.

    Nobody is covering up stories, if anything there is too much news on it and like 40 schools in Berlin example it's being made a lot worse than it is. Germany doesn't do centralised data well because there is a lot of regional autonomy. School openings and requirements for schools is what regional governments deal with. Glasgow case is one and there are probably more student to student transmissions. However less likely doesn't equal it won't happen.

    You suspect that the people worried about school outbreaks are racist?

    Bit of a stretch, genius


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kept waiting for NPHET to advise that grandparents over 70 or anyone medically vulnerable need to avoid contact as much as possible with extended family, especially with kids going to school, parents back to work etc. Hard for grandparents to say "No" especially as, since June, they have been reunited with grandkids and delighted to be so and families had resumed relying on them for childcare which, in many cases, have increased with return to school i.e., pick ups, tiding over till parents finish work etc. Probably advice will come in next few days but should have been earlier.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 902l45irqnwbah


    I wondered about this too. Everyone seems to be going about as normal regarding kids meeting grandparents I would have thought there would be some mention before the schools returned. I would see them as more at risk now than ever.


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