How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

combat14

Smacruairi wrote: »

Back teaching secondary a few days. As expected, social distancing is impossible, unless you wanted to be a stazi member on a corridor and breaking up lunch chats between old friends. Even in the classroom, the spaces you had measured out quickly shift by 10cm here and there owing to diff body shapes so the social distancing in the classroom is obsolete.

That being said, it's good to get back to work, kids are in good form. No one wants to go to the overflow room as it's a pain in the bollix, so kids are sitting in chairs on corridors almost to stay part of class. Still have some parents complaining about procedures and airflow, some the opposite and saying when are we getting back to full time extra curricular.

As a staff member, I knew this would be the case, and I'm happy enough so far as I know the risk. You only have to look at this thread to see the evolution from "ah we are looking after staff concerns" to "ah the virus isn't that bad, relax". I'm just hoping that the death rate stays at 0 and there are no long term effects.

To be be honest, all the measures have mitigated risk basically **** all, it all just feels like a placebo, but I'm happy to go along with it. I'm now more inclined to say, just open up the country now. If we are open, everyone else can no problem.

exactly schools open now it is time for all the office workers to return to work now too

Locotastic

KerryConnor wrote: »

Very cautious? So you think the teacher and the rest of the class should just continue on while the 'pod' isolates?

I didn't say that and anyway it doesn't matter what I think. After the initial return period we will likely see public health teams only isolating the pods.

Otherwise why not just say the class is the pod and be done with it.

Locotastic

combat14 wrote: »

exactly schools open now it is time for all the office workers to return to work now too

A lot of them are already back a while at this stage, the bigger corporations will be planning phased return to premises round about now too.

Coz all parents are Office workers :rolleyes:

downthemiddle

Locotastic wrote: »

A lot of them are already back a while at this stage, the bigger corporations will be planning phased return to premises round about now too.

Coz all parents are Office workers :rolleyes:

Not at all. Some of them work night shift, except on a Sunday gal. :rolleyes:

facehugger99

It would be great if all the parents virtue-signalling about keeping little Timmy home with a case of the sniffles, could all thanks-whore their posts in a separate thread.

facehugger99

facehugger99 wrote: »

It would be great if all the parents virtue-signalling about keeping little Timmy home with a case of the sniffles, could all thanks-whore their posts in a separate thread.

Maybe they could talk about school issues in vaccine, travel or pubs thread. Talking about issues impacting school in the schools thread is ridiculous

Blondini

facehugger99 wrote: »

It would be great if all the parents virtue-signalling about keeping little Timmy home with a case of the sniffles, could all thanks-whore their posts in a separate thread.

That's just a leeeeeetle bit ironic since you brought your teacher-bashing covid-denying thanks-whoring populist balderdash to this thread.

average_runner

combat14 wrote: »

exactly schools open now it is time for all the office workers to return to work now too

And how do you know they aren't all working already?

If u mean return to the office, those days are gone, alot of companies are down grading the offices for the staff that want to work in it and meetings only.

Better quality of life for my family and I with us working from home.

khalessi

facehugger99 wrote: »

It would be great if all the parents virtue-signalling about keeping little Timmy home with a case of the sniffles, could all thanks-whore their posts in a separate thread.

Wouldn't it be lovely if rude troll posts like these could just feck off elsewhere

combat14

combat14 wrote: »

exactly schools open now it is time for all the office workers to return to work now too

Why, most of us don’t want to go back and much prefer WFH. I did WFH regularly before covid but doing it full time was absolutely great.

Most people I know going back to the office hasn’t even been mentioned yet and even when they go back it will not be everyday.

If one good thing comes out of covid it’s making WFH the norm and something a lot of people will do a few days a week at the very least from now on.

Also we are in the middle of a pandemic the schools should not be open so that’s bad enough but bringing a load of people back into offices would be making the situation even worse.

PowerToWait

Locotastic wrote: »

A lot of them are already back a while at this stage, the bigger corporations will be planning phased return to premises round about now too.

Coz all parents are Office workers :rolleyes:

You’ve been on here months moaning and now the schools are back you’re still here moaning. And pontificating. What an expert on how it’s all going to go.

Locotastic

Nearly 2 weeks without a death now from the virus (RIP today's death was from June) despite the country being almost fully open.

Other EU countries having the same trend.

Schools here have done a fantastic job even if we all know its a box ticking exercise at this point.

TonyMaloney

Locotastic wrote: »

Nearly 2 weeks without a death now from the virus (RIP today's death was from June) despite the country being almost fully open.

Other EU countries having the same trend.

Schools here have done a fantastic job even if we all know its a box ticking exercise at this point.

Spain isn't following the same trend

Icyseanfitz

Locotastic wrote: »

Nearly 2 weeks without a death now from the virus (RIP today's death was from June) despite the country being almost fully open.

Other EU countries having the same trend.

Schools here have done a fantastic job even if we all know its a box ticking exercise at this point.

to be fair we wont have a real idea of how schools have done for another week

Jaded Walker

meeeeh wrote: »

I'm also worried about my kids being hit by a car and that doesn't stop me letting and encourage them to cycle. I also worry they could drown but it doesn't stop me encouraging them to learn to swim. What I worry is different to me looking at statistics and making informed and rational decision what is more beneficial for them.

I can keep them away from their peers, keep them at home from normal social interaction or I can make sure that they are not unnecessarily reckless and let them go to school which is important for their social and educational development.

Will you regret your actions, be unable to forgive yourself if one of your kids ends up being one of the unfortunate ones who ends up contracting the virus and suffering from Pims or organ problems or extreme lethargy when keeping them at home would have kept them safe?
What do you know about this virus? You have plenty of experience of roads and water like every adult but what do you know about a virus that is less than a year old and has side affects which are as yet unexplained?

Locotastic

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Spain isn't following the same trend

I agree things not looking good in Spain, however their mortality rate is roughly half the rate at the height of the crisis, falling to 6.6 percent from the 12 percent peak in May.

They also have changed the way cases are counted several times, and were including at times PCR antibody cases (which could impact the overall picture there).

They have been hit very badly though, its awful.

Warbeastrior

Icyseanfitz wrote:

to be fair we wont have a real idea of how schools have done for another week

This has nothing to do with how schools have done. If there is a rise in cases it will have nothing to do with the organisation of schools. What is being asked off then is unrealistic.

meeeeh

Jaded Walker wrote: »

Will you regret your actions, be unable to forgive yourself if one of your kids ends up being one of the unfortunate ones who ends up contracting the virus and suffering from Pims or organ problems or extreme lethargy when keeping them at home would have kept them safe?
What do you know about this virus? You have plenty of experience of roads and water like every adult but what do you know about a virus that is less than a year old and has side affects which are as yet unexplained?

No. I don't believe in regrets when I act in what I believe is their best interest. I would regret if I brought up two overprotected kids who would be scared of everything in their life.

vid36

A primary school in Clare is closing for a week due to a teacher being a close contact to a confirmed case.

SusanC10

http://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0902/1162868-clare-school/

A school in Co. Clare is shut for a week. Teachers are close contacts of a confirmed case.

Jinglejangle69

Great protocall been followed.

We're gonna have to live beside this virus and accept this will happen.

Schools only open a week, was always gonna be bumps before we fisgure out how things will go.

Blondini

3 reported school related covid alerts so far in primary schools.

Wait until all the adult-sized secondary students are fully back next week and the real issues will begin.

byhookorbycrook

Locotastic wrote: »

I think most primary schools are set up the same way, few kids to a pod indoors and altogether as a class bubble outdoors.

I don't think outdoors running around with each other for a short space of time is considered close contact is it?

Sending the whole class home will not become the norm for one positive case, if you recall all positive covid cases were admitted to hospital at the very start but very quickly only those needing medical help were admitted.

It's being very cautious initially and seeing what the public health teams deem necessary.

"Pods" are the same table system as has always been used in primary- and if you see how a tummy bug/headlice through a class, you will understand that it's simply PR spin.


30 children in a classroom where 2 m SD isn't possible means every single child is a close contact.

Locotastic

Blondini wrote: »

3 reported school related covid alerts so far in primary schools.

Wait until all the adult-sized secondary students are fully back next week and the real issues will begin.

I'd say you can't wait. Looking forward to going back are you?

TonyMaloney

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Another one who wants to shut the schools and society down over a virus that hasn't killed anyone in 2 weeks in Ireland.

I just like the peace and quiet when there's no traffic or children out playing.

Plus it really reinforces my work from home stance.

Jinglejangle69

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I just like the peace and quiet when there's no traffic or children out playing.

Plus it really reinforces my work from home stance.

I'm alright Jack.

Blondini

Locotastic wrote: »

I'd say you can't wait. Looking forward to going back are you?

When I can be paid to sit at home?

Think I'll pass on that one sweetcheeks :cool:

Jaded Walker

meeeeh wrote: »

No. I don't believe in regrets when I act in what I believe is their best interest. I would regret if I brought up two overprotected kids who would be scared of everything in their life.

Well good luck to you with your approach.

I teach my kid to let others take the risks and if it's safe then go do it.

TonyMaloney

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I'm alright Jack.

Exactly.

You figured me out. Damn it.

Jinglejangle69

Blondini wrote: »

When I can be paid to sit at home?

Think I'll pass on that one sweetcheeks :cool:

I'm alright Jack.

Glad I'm out there and was during the pandemic working to keep you on full pay.