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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    321123 wrote: »
    While I miss friends and family in Ireland right now the decision to follow my partner to Sweden when he moved there earlier this year really has been fantastic seeing how Ireland (both society and government) is handling Covid-19. My mental health is great.

    There are going to be long term societal issues in Ireland from this, it's obvious to me after seeing how it is all being handled. Got an absolute chock when I returned to Ireland early August to visit friends and family (took a test two days before departing Stockholm and self isolated for two weeks in Ireland of course). People are **** scared, media and government is just injecting fear and misery. Dublin is boarded up, people change side of the road when you walk by, my American friends living in Ireland are afraid to even go out for dinner because people think they are tourists. What a dystopia my lovely Ireland has become (really really hope temporarily).

    In Sweden Schools and daycare are like before, no masks/shields/plexiglass, no pods, no inforced distance, no half days/part time in school, kids can be kids. There were no media panic or drama when schools opened again. Just some mention of the risks buts also the rewards. Most parents and teachers feel safe meaning that the kids are not worried or scared either.

    Pubs and restaurants are open (they never closed) with few restrictions (need to be an arm lenght between tables). No masks anywhere (airports and flights though due to policy decisions by airlines and the main airport operator), meeting up with friends or family inside or outside is as normal, people are not afraid of eachother, singles are dating like before, weddings are going ahead, parents aren't instilling fear in their kids, old people are out and enjoying themselves/seeing friends and family (just with a bit of caution, my grandmother in-law for example goes to her favourite restaurant weekly and said that she rather die now at 89 living life to her fullest - than in 2 years after being locked up and scared until then) and no-one is giving out if kids from different households are playing together or if you have 30 people over for a BBQ or house party. However, if you attend a large house party you just don't visit grandma for a week or two just to be on the safe side (common sense in these times!). If you're feeling a bit sick you stay home and go and get a test (no referral needed, no cost and no waiting, result the next day).

    There are no travel restrictions and no quarantine on arrival. You go wherever you want if you feel that you need or want it. Most Swedish people stayed in Sweden though this summer seeing records in the sale of boats, caravans, tenets, kayaks, fishing equipment etc.

    Last week the Swedish version of the CMO announced that they recommend that the limit on organised public gatherings is increased from 50 to 500 (this never affected private gatherings like weddings or parties).

    Sweden's largest bank Nordea now estimates that the Swedish economy will have fully recovered by the start of next summer and no more stimulus packages are necessary. I can understand why, people are back living their lives again, spending money and enjoying themselves and the confidence in the society is back.

    The only thing that has changed is that people don't shake hands anymore and that it is socially unacceptable now to go to work or school if sick. Like it should be!

    The current common sense recommendations clearly have effect while they also can be kept for years if necessary without harm to the society or the economy. Like they were intended to!

    (Just use Google translate to read the economic verdict from Nordea) https://www.expressen.se/dinapengar/nordea-krisen-inte-lika-djup-som-befarat/




    At the atheletics meet in Sweden on BBC, all of the people in the stands were wearing masks. Not many in the stands either, maybe 100 people for the whole stadium. Why was this?

    Why was Norway not allowed into Sweden for a good while?

    Kids can be kids here also, sports are all back, my son's class has no social distancing as you can't with 7 year olds.
    My kids would actually say this summer was brilliant as they got to play with their friends more and mum and dad were at home all the time also.
    Kids were camping every second weekend, we did the greenway in waterford, had a great time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    I think it is very evident that masses of society have very tenuous and fragile "mental health" before covid.

    If people are having serious breakdowns over working from home or not being able to go to the pub (I know people can be in worse situations, but in my own social circle some are seriously struggling in the exact circumstances I am talking about) I think they may have some deeper issues and must have been barely "getting by" before this.

    Of course others have worse situations with parents in nursing homes, job losses etc, but I am talking about people in my social circle, late 20s to mid 30s, secure jobs, secure homes, no underlying conditions etc.

    Personally, lockdown has been ok for me. If anything my mental health is better (was grand to begin with) due to no longer having the stress from commuting. I still meet friends for a coffee or a meal, or have one or two over to my house or I to theirs. I have actually enjoyed having a more "normal" social life that doesn't centre around drink and I think this is a good thing. Hopefully everyone won't rush back to the "pub culture" once this is all over.

    To be honest, the main downside for me (I have been lucky with no one in my family getting sick, so far at least) is that I have become more lazy and put on about a stone, as I used to cycle for part of my commute. Otherwise I have enjoyed being at home more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,338 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Away from the keyboard warriors on the internet however, most people who you talk to are completely over the BS from the government which is reassuring, they're just waiting for the all clear to go back to the same behaviour as before. September is the month where the majority view will finally be that the crisis has ended, with schools and office workers returning from summer holidays, sports getting crowds again, pubs being opened and travel returning. Of course, all will have token guidance on social distancing, masks etc. but after a few more weeks when the deaths and hospitalisations do not climb despite essentially all of society being back to normal, the guidance will lose its fear factor, masks will be worn by those wanting to protect themselves, hand sanitiser used by those fearful about themselves, the vaccine hyped up so much won't be as motivating for people etc. We have stayed the course in this thread and I see nothing inconsistent in our views for months now, the data is still supporting us; we're getting there!

    It’s a nice dream but I don’t know if it’ll be that easy. If we get to the end of September without hospitals starting to get busy and without more older people getting infected maybe. I just don’t see how we can continue to have so much spread in the under 40 age group without community transmission eventually reaching a level where older and more vulnerable people start getting infected. Those people do seem to be protecting themselves well but it’s no life for them. My parents had their first meal in a restaurant in 6 months yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Sweden's ICU capacity is much the same as ours.

    Ireland's hospitals were never overwhelmed. Not even when we had 100s in hospital.

    We've had several posters on this very thread posting from other European countries about how much more relaxed and sensible the approach is compared to Ireland.

    Back when we were announcing 5 - 10 cases a day, we still didn't open up.

    I imagine we will remain the most conservative country in Europe until a vaccine arrives or our economy forces us into action.




    What's not open right now bar pubs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 321123


    Sweden's ICU capacity is much the same as ours.

    Ireland's hospitals were never overwhelmed. Not even when we had 100s in hospital.

    We've had several posters on this very thread posting from other European countries about how much more relaxed and sensible the approach is compared to Ireland.

    Back when we were announcing 5 - 10 cases a day, we still didn't open up.

    I imagine we will remain the most conservative country in Europe until a vaccine arrives or our economy forces us into action.
    Sweden had something like 1100 ICU beds at the hight of the pandemic (think they have a system in place where they with short notice can increase or decrease the ICU capacity) plus another 500 or so on standby in military field hospitals that were never used (Sweden has a much larger military than Ireland). This in a population of 10 million, so not too far off Ireland's figures though a bit higher.


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  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's not open right now bar pubs?

    I posted about this last night, will paste below again:

    To be honest, I couldn’t put a figure on it but I think it’s a lot worse than people are making out.

    It’s also important to define “open”. Technically the airport is open, but I hear it’s only operating at about 10% of what it normally would. Almost all business travel and tourism has stopped.

    Apparently 200000 are still getting PUP payments.

    Pubs are either closed or open as restaurants. Restaurants have curfews. We have no nightlife after 11:30pm. That’s destroys the entertainment industry.

    Lots of gyms/pools are still fully closed or have big restrictions in place.

    Very few weddings are going ahead so that hugely impacts all the suppliers, photographers, bands etc that would cover them.

    Even lots of office staff are now taking pay cuts or have pay freezes in place. Big companies are making noises that jobs will be cut. BOI is an example.

    I was in Dublin City Centre myself this morning and it was very quiet. Very odd.

    But technically we could open pubs and claim that nothing is fully closed. And yet nothing is operating even remotely close to what it should be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,850 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    I imagine we will remain the most conservative country in Europe until a vaccine arrives or our economy forces us into action.

    Its like NPHET is ruling the country with ther never-ending doom and fear- nothing positive is reported , about how we actually Flattened the curve , the hospitals were not over-run - meanwhile the mental health of the Nation is at breaking point for so many - and no one in the mainstream media is highlighting this , just pedlling never-ending FEAR about this virus to the detriment of everything else , including other more serious illnesses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Merry_Hell


    What's not open right now bar pubs?

    Night clubs, unrestricted travel, stadiums, venues, the side of a gaa pitch, your friend's house if he has another guest over, my gym, the sauna in the hotel I stayed at last week, the break room of my kid's school, my local shops if I forget a mask, play centres, all the business that went bankrupt due to the lockdown......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,338 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Sweden's ICU capacity is much the same as ours.

    Ireland's hospitals were never overwhelmed. Not even when we had 100s in hospital.

    We've had several posters on this very thread posting from other European countries about how much more relaxed and sensible the approach is compared to Ireland.

    Back when we were announcing 5 - 10 cases a day, we still didn't open up.

    I imagine we will remain the most conservative country in Europe until a vaccine arrives or our economy forces us into action.

    No actually it isn’t. We’ve increased ours but it’s nowhere near theirs. There’s still about one person per day being admitted to ICU in Sweden with Covid. We simply can’t do that here it’s not option. This article has some good info on what they did https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.com/20200623/how-sweden-doubled-intensive-care-capacity-to-treat-coronavirus-patients/amp

    If you’re talking about the guy posting pictures of pints as if you can’t get them here, I’m not sure what point he’s trying to make to be honest. I think he’s mostly just trying to make himself feel better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I voiced these concerns thousands of posts back at the start of this thread. There is zero leadership, the country is still extremely conservative and backwards. When this hit, if those in power didnt believe or act like catchy19 was the be all and end all, the fear stoking media would have hung drawn and quartered the "granny killers". The best thing i have done, is stopped watching or listening to " the news " id actually turn it on , if i need a bit if comedy at this stage...

    Just take the late late show, you think you might get light hearted entertainment in a friday night. You get the same **** guests, some entertainment. But they always throw on the token gesture horror story, just in case you were forgetting after your long week, that life could always be worse...

    Rte, the politicians and media are a cancer on this country...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 321123


    At the atheletics meet in Sweden on BBC, all of the people in the stands were wearing masks. Not many in the stands either, maybe 100 people for the whole stadium. Why was this?

    Why was Norway not allowed into Sweden for a good while?

    Kids can be kids here also, sports are all back, my son's class has no social distancing as you can't with 7 year olds.
    My kids would actually say this summer was brilliant as they got to play with their friends more and mum and dad were at home all the time also.
    Kids were camping every second weekend, we did the greenway in waterford, had a great time.
    No idea, maybe restrictions that IAAF requires? Sweden still only allows 50 people on stadiums but that is die to be lifted soon.

    Norwegians were always allowed in. However Norwegian government has quarantine requirements for Norwegians returning from certain Swedish counties. The Swedish Foreign Ministry recommends people to not travel to countries that requires quarantine simply because the likelihood of being stuck due to cancelled flights is higher. Therefore there used to be a recommendation to not travel to Norway (like it now is to not go to Ireland). However they are not lecturing you to not go.

    Glad to hear you had a nice summer and your kids are happy. My friend who is a teacher in primary school has to wear a visor and there are plexiglass between the desks. The kids are grouped into pods, no PE etc. My best friend's kids can't attend their music classes (their biggest passion), they have to wear mask in secondary school, special needs activities are canceled, birthday parties and larger playdates can't be held. Hardly normality for a lot of kids.

    But the biggest difference is the general sentiment in the societies. Way more doom and gloom and fear in Ireland than in the Scandinavian countries (and I hear the same from Irish people I know in Germany and Czech Republic). Might not affect everyone, but just reading here on Boards, news comments and talking to people I know, it does affect a lot of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    I posted about this last night, will paste below again:

    To be honest, I couldn’t put a figure on it but I think it’s a lot worse than people are making out.

    It’s also important to define “open”. Technically the airport is open, but I hear it’s only operating at about 10% of what it normally would. Almost all business travel and tourism has stopped.

    Apparently 200000 are still getting PUP payments.

    Pubs are either closed or open as restaurants. Restaurants have curfews. We have no nightlife after 11:30pm. That’s destroys the entertainment industry.

    Lots of gyms/pools are still fully closed or have big restrictions in place.

    Very few weddings are going ahead so that hugely impacts all the suppliers, photographers, bands etc that would cover them.

    Even lots of office staff are now taking pay cuts or have pay freezes in place. Big companies are making noises that jobs will be cut. BOI is an example.

    I was in Dublin City Centre myself this morning and it was very quiet. Very odd.

    But technically we could open pubs and claim that nothing is fully closed. And yet nothing is operating even remotely close to what it should be.




    Dubln City centre won't change much, office staff are enjoying their work from home and I know a good few companies are planning this way forward for the future, just some meetings in a smaller office.


    Business travel is not needed anymore, as technology taken over. Better quality of life.


    Nightclubs are not open in a good few countries.


    Our pool opens next week for the kids swimming lessons, so pools will be back soon.


    Local Restaurants are doing very well, couldn't get a table on sat night out here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    thebaz wrote: »
    Its like NPHET is ruling the country with ther never-ending doom and fear- nothing positive is reported , about how we actually Flattened the curve , the hospitals were not over-run - meanwhile the mental health of the Nation is at breaking point for so many - and no one in the mainstream media is highlighting this , just pedlling never-ending FEAR about this virus to the detriment of everything else , including other more serious illnesses.

    They are morally corrupt scum. This is a simple accounting excercise for them. What will sell more papers, bull**** clickbait like hysteric headlines or bit of balance... obviously many of us womt buy the rags any more, but the demographic that does, is the one with most to fear from this virus... hence they crank up the fear levels..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    What's not open right now bar pubs?

    Universities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Personally, lockdown has been ok for me. If anything my mental health is better (was grand to begin with) due to no longer having the stress from commuting. I still meet friends for a coffee or a meal, or have one or two over to my house or I to theirs. I have actually enjoyed having a more "normal" social life that doesn't centre around drink and I think this is a good thing. Hopefully everyone won't rush back to the "pub culture" once this is all over.

    Yet another lad who has a family, has a house, has a steady job, is settled with a circle of friends and hasn't really been affected by any of this but cannot comprehend at all that not everybody is as lucky as that.

    Lockdown has been grand for me so what are people complaining about, yeah? Must have had fragile mental health already, yeah? :rolleyes:

    Do you never stop for one minute to wonder what it would be like if instead of losing your commute you had instead lost your job? That instead of family you were single and had no support, and had no prospects of meeting anybody any time soon? That instead of a settled social circle you relied on getting out to meet new people and find connections there?

    There are few things as sanctimonious as people who aren't affected by a problem casting aspersions on those who are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Any one holding off on dating, who wouldnt be high risk needs their heads examined ! Oh yeah, the cure is just a year or two around the corner! Lol !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    MadYaker wrote: »
    It’s a nice dream but I don’t know if it’ll be that easy. If we get to the end of September without hospitals starting to get busy and without more older people getting infected maybe. I just don’t see how we can continue to have so much spread in the under 40 age group without community transmission eventually reaching a level where older and more vulnerable people start getting infected. Those people do seem to be protecting themselves well but it’s no life for them. My parents had their first meal in a restaurant in 6 months yesterday.

    I think the fact covid is so virulent means that it already did a sweep through society and the government has no interest in doing widespread testing and anti-body testing to establish if this is the case. Even for older people, the risk is still low unless they have underlying conditions. I understand the view that the last 6 weeks of increased cases has not resulted in hospital transmissions and deaths due to the fact the median age is below 40 years but that the median age of cases could go higher again due to the wider spread of covid. But I think this is overly-cautious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    Can you not read?
    Yet another lad who has a family, has a house, has a steady job, is settled with a circle of friends and hasn't really been affected by any of this but cannot comprehend at all that not everybody is as lucky as that.

    Lockdown has been grand for me so what are people complaining about, yeah? Must have had fragile mental health already, yeah? rolleyes.png

    Do you never stop for one minute to wonder what it would be like if instead of losing your commute you had instead lost your job? That instead of family you were single and had no support, and had no prospects of meeting anybody any time soon? That instead of a settled social circle you relied on getting out to meet new people and find connections there?

    There are few things as sanctimonious as people who aren't affected by a problem casting aspersions on those who are.
    I think it is very evident that masses of society have very tenuous and fragile "mental health" before covid.

    If people are having serious breakdowns over working from home or not being able to go to the pub (I know people can be in worse situations, but in my own social circle some are seriously struggling in the exact circumstances I am talking about) I think they may have some deeper issues and must have been barely "getting by" before this.

    Of course others have worse situations with parents in nursing homes, job losses etc, but I am talking about people in my social circle, late 20s to mid 30s, secure jobs, secure homes, no underlying conditions etc.

    Personally, lockdown has been ok for me. If anything my mental health is better (was grand to begin with) due to no longer having the stress from commuting. I still meet friends for a coffee or a meal, or have one or two over to my house or I to theirs. I have actually enjoyed having a more "normal" social life that doesn't centre around drink and I think this is a good thing. Hopefully everyone won't rush back to the "pub culture" once this is all over.

    To be honest, the main downside for me (I have been lucky with no one in my family getting sick, so far at least) is that I have become more lazy and put on about a stone, as I used to cycle for part of my commute. Otherwise I have enjoyed being at home more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Sweden's ICU capacity is much the same as ours.

    Ireland's hospitals were never overwhelmed. Not even when we had 100s in hospital.

    We've had several posters on this very thread posting from other European countries about how much more relaxed and sensible the approach is compared to Ireland.

    Back when we were announcing 5 - 10 cases a day, we still didn't open up.

    I imagine we will remain the most conservative country in Europe until a vaccine arrives or our economy forces us into action.

    Nah you just want a pint mate, isn't that the default put down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    MadYaker wrote: »
    The only hysteria I read is people whinging in this thread.

    Yes whinging that restrictions and lockdowns should be implemented immediately everytime the numbers are released.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Dubln City centre won't change much, office staff are enjoying their work from home and I know a good few companies are planning this way forward for the future, just some meetings in a smaller office..
    That will have an affect on the many small cafés and shops that relied on business from these office workers. They won't all be switched out for local shops either. I mean I'm in favour of working-from-home but it's not without a cost to businesses and it's why they were encouraging people back into the office in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,280 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Idbatterim wrote: »

    She should have more respect for her unborn child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,856 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Just listening to the radio, seemingly the Guards have got a load of spit guards to put on people they arrest now...ok I know you shouldn't be getting yourself arrested but where the hell are we going with all this...

    1588089127434.jpg--latest__garda__used_controversial__spit_guards__15_times_on_suspects_while_enforcing_covid_19_regulations_.jpg?1588089127000

    Scrotes were spitting at Gards whilst being arrested,how would you have a problem with the Gards using spit guards in this situation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    321123 wrote: »
    While I miss friends and family in Ireland right now the decision to follow my partner to Sweden when he moved there earlier this year really has been fantastic seeing how Ireland (both society and government) is handling Covid-19. My mental health is great.

    There are going to be long term societal issues in Ireland from this, it's obvious to me after seeing how it is all being handled. Got an absolute chock when I returned to Ireland early August to visit friends and family (took a test two days before departing Stockholm and self isolated for two weeks in Ireland of course). People are **** scared, media and government is just injecting fear and misery. Dublin is boarded up, people change side of the road when you walk by, my American friends living in Ireland are afraid to even go out for dinner because people think they are tourists. What a dystopia my lovely Ireland has become (really really hope temporarily).

    In Sweden Schools and daycare are like before, no masks/shields/plexiglass, no pods, no inforced distance, no half days/part time in school, kids can be kids. There were no media panic or drama when schools opened again. Just some mention of the risks buts also the rewards. Most parents and teachers feel safe meaning that the kids are not worried or scared either.

    Pubs and restaurants are open (they never closed) with few restrictions (need to be an arm lenght between tables). No masks anywhere (airports and flights though due to policy decisions by airlines and the main airport operator), meeting up with friends or family inside or outside is as normal, people are not afraid of eachother, singles are dating like before, weddings are going ahead, parents aren't instilling fear in their kids, old people are out and enjoying themselves/seeing friends and family (just with a bit of caution, my grandmother in-law for example goes to her favourite restaurant weekly and said that she rather die now at 89 living life to her fullest - than in 2 years after being locked up and scared until then) and no-one is giving out if kids from different households are playing together or if you have 30 people over for a BBQ or house party. However, if you attend a large house party you just don't visit grandma for a week or two just to be on the safe side (common sense in these times!). If you're feeling a bit sick you stay home and go and get a test (no referral needed, no cost and no waiting, result the next day).

    There are no travel restrictions and no quarantine on arrival. You go wherever you want if you feel that you need or want it. Most Swedish people stayed in Sweden though this summer seeing records in the sale of boats, caravans, tenets, kayaks, fishing equipment etc.

    Last week the Swedish version of the CMO announced that they recommend that the limit on organised public gatherings is increased from 50 to 500 (this never affected private gatherings like weddings or parties).

    Sweden's largest bank Nordea now estimates that the Swedish economy will have fully recovered by the start of next summer and no more stimulus packages are necessary. I can understand why, people are back living their lives again, spending money and enjoying themselves and the confidence in the society is back.

    The only thing that has changed is that people don't shake hands anymore and that it is socially unacceptable now to go to work or school if sick. Like it should be!

    The current common sense recommendations clearly have effect while they also can be kept for years if necessary without harm to the society or the economy. Like they were intended to!

    (Just use Google translate to read the economic verdict from Nordea) https://www.expressen.se/dinapengar/nordea-krisen-inte-lika-djup-som-befarat/


    This is the type of opinion piece that is needed in the national media. I came back from a holiday abroad and felt the collective fear and depression in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Any one holding off on dating, who wouldnt be high risk needs their heads examined ! Oh yeah, the cure is just a year or two around the corner! Lol !

    What do you think dating is?

    Forget your american style online dating, the vast, vast majority of people meet through spontaneous social interactions, which is anathema to the all important "social distancing".

    Anybody who can't understand that simple fact may need their head examined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    What do you think dating is?

    Forget your american style online dating, the vast, vast majority of people meet through spontaneous social interactions, which is anathema to the all important "social distancing".

    I would have to disagree here.

    Online dating is surely as common of a way for strangers meeting for the last few years, certainly so for 20-30 somethings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Multipass wrote: »
    Universities



    They don't go back till mid sept usually and are most are doing it online except for the practicals which makes sense.


    Technology is here now, we can save a fortune especially with dublin rents. This is the way forward


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    They don't go back till mid sept usually and are most are doing it online except for the practicals which makes sense.


    Technology is here now, we can save a fortune especially with dublin rents. This is the way forward

    Thankfully we have an impressive national broadband infrastructure........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I would have to disagree here.

    Online dating is surely as common of a way for strangers meeting for the last few years, certainly so for 20-30 somethings.

    This probably isn't the place for it, I'm sure there are plenty of threads about online dating but while it is ubiquitous these days I think a lot of people have realised that it simply doesn't work for them and that it cannot replace genuine social interactions.

    Talk about Tinder/POF etc, the success stories are far less common than things like 90% of one gender chasing the attractive 10% of the other, the ghosting, the vanity dates, the pre-planned nature of it all being off-putting in general.

    People still prefer meeting a girl/guy in a bar, on a hike, at work, at a gig, wherever it is still better to meet spontaneous and hit it off with somebody then take it from there.

    Sitting in your room swiping right is not having a social life, getting out and meeting new people is.


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