Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

bucketybuck wrote: »

Or a headline article on the national broadcasters website "The coronavirus lottery, it could be you".

Yet again, nothing but fear mongering and pushing an agenda that has been clear as day for months now.

They’re forever stoking the coals to reignite the fear whenever possible. You have to remove yourself from the likes of the Indo and rte and focus on the actual data

acequion wrote: »

Having the very high moral ground and restrictions for the sake of restrictions has become the number one main concern both in media and Govt. And the depressingly large numbers of finger waggers who adore a good witch hunt are staunch supporters of this madness.

When the economy eventually comes crashing down and all the free cash with it, that's when the penny might drop!

I’ve began to hate a lot of Irish society. Cowardly backwardness, petty insular small mindedness helped by our small island nation isolation have permeated every aspect of life. There was a massive chunk of freaks that would welcome new pernicious laws on entering private houses as manna from heaven- just listen to joe Duffy anyday of the week

acequion wrote: »

Having the very high moral ground and restrictions for the sake of restrictions has become the number one main concern both in media and Govt. And the depressingly large numbers of finger waggers who adore a good witch hunt are staunch supporters of this madness.

When the economy eventually comes crashing down and all the free cash with it, that's when the penny might drop!

That's the only hope. But I'm afraid that COVID damaged brains are not so easily curable.

road_high wrote: »

I’ve began to hate a lot of Irish society. Cowardly backwardness, petty insular small mindedness helped by our small island nation isolation have permeated every aspect of life. There was a massive chunk of freaks that would welcome new pernicious laws on entering private houses as manna from heaven- just listen to joe Duffy anyday of the week

Personally, I am far from hatred, I rather scared for my future. How to live without free press? How to trust the Government? I am hoping to see some action by our judiciary by protecting the Constitution and peoples rights. If it won't happen, there is no hope. The country we had known for the last 20 years before this madness, have gone.

beaz2018 wrote: »

If u told me this forum would still be active in September a few months ago, I’d have jumped in the Liffey. I’m beginning to think we will still have these bollox restrictions in a years time.

I can't see how one could justify an influenza death in the future without a lockdown.

The future is bleak

KindOfIrish wrote: »

That's the only hope. But I'm afraid that COVID damaged brains are not so easily curable.

According to this topic, someone's brains were damaged long before Covid. Covid has just escalated this complications

Penfailed wrote: »

Hahaha! Talk about hysteria. Read back what you've just typed.

If a Covid death is worthy of a lockdown, so is another death.

We may get used to it, it is a police state after all

xhomelezz wrote: »

The minute they actually wanted to give cops chance to tackle dangerous behaviour of some, you guys jumping from your holes crying about your rights. Pathetic

Dangerous behavior?

A few youngster's having cans in a house is dangerous behavior?

You have just proven the point about the hysteric nonsense pumped out by the media swallowed up by those who are vulnerable and easily influenced without proof

Lundstram wrote: »

This. Starting to detest living in this nanny state. Off to Lisbon for a week next Saturday, I've never looked forward to getting out of this place so much.

I'm a very proud Irishman but the last 6 months has shocked me. Every facet of our lives is been dictated by a man no one heard ever a few months ago.

As a society we are weak and easily manipulated by media.

Unfortunately humans have tendencies to abdicate decision making to other so called “experts”. It is too taxing to search for evidence, analyse and make our own decisions. That is why we are prone to be easily manipulated. The role of experts when it comes to predicting future events has been proven time and time again to be very overrated. For very complex and dynamic problems average Joe is just as accurate in his predictions. So called experts suffer from a strong tendency to overestimate their competence by 15-30%, depending on the field. The future often times is nothing like the past.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

We've always been a nation of curtain-twitchers and begrudgers - either about what our neighbours have, or are "getting away with" that we aren't.

It's not helped by our parochial me-fein outlook and tribal nonsense like the GAA, which ultimately results in the politics and politicians we have. All about what's in it for me. We still admire the cute hoor and lament when he gets caught ("Shure have they nothing else to be at"), many privately admitting we'd do the same if we had the brass neck/balls.

Alongside that we have an instinctive "need" to be liked and approved of ("everyone loves the Irish", "look at our young mixed-race gay Taoiseach - aren't we progressive" etc). It's why we soak up the worst influences of social media's divisive identity politics and jump on every crusade (WTF relevance have the racial issues in the USA to Ireland?) and so on.

So Covid and the response has indeed been ideal for such people who are obsessed with the behaviours of those around them. They get to advertise how compliant they are for the "likes", and attack those who question the consensus - "Why should my neighbour "get away with" not wearing a mask?"

It's always been this way unfortunately. The Celtic Tiger years exposed it, the Recession exposed it, and the CV-19 event has magnified it ten-fold through both the constant fear and negativity from mainstream media, and the absolute hysteria and confrontational aspect of social media.

Excellent post, 100% agree with everything you write.

We are a nation of small minded hypocrites and always have been. I'm not one bit surprised by the current behaviours and attitudes because as you say, the me-feinism and pettiness were very much exposed during the Tiger years and subsequent recession. The begrudgery towards people who still had jobs and god forbid, good jobs, during the recession was staggering and that's when my eyes were opened.

It's an ugly facet of human nature which is prevalent everywhere, but it's magnified here in Ireland because we're a small island nation with an island mentality in our DNA and because huge institutionalised influences like the Church and mass media have capitalised on it very successfully here. What is disappointing is how despite being well educated,many are so brainwashed and just can't/won't see it.

Conversely loads of Irish love to be seen as do gooders and will jump on the band wagon of the latest feel good/cool cause. 30 years ago there was fire and brimstone and overwhelming social disapproval if any poor girl got pregnant or god forbid, went to England for an abortion. 30 years on the same people vote in droves for all that's progressive. And I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of very genuinely progressive people in Ireland as thankfully,there are. But there are huge swathes who just go along with whatever is in. And that ugly facet of Irishness is really evident at the moment as what's in,is Covid mania.

hmmm wrote: »

It's clearly a dangerous time at the moment,

I know, all those deaths this week make it clear that we should be very concerned.