Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-08-2020 07:39AM

HBC08 wrote: »

Mask protests,tick
Gemma,tick
paranoid agenda,tick
5G,tick
Sheeple,tick
Triggered,tick

All in relation to a reasonable discussion on pubs opening.
Goodbye MrStuffins.

He forgot to mention our other heroes Alex Jones and Jim Corr.

hetuzozaho · 28-08-2020 07:54AM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Same regulations on indoor gatherings would apply so I can't see why they would.

I mean they don't have to sell food. Soft drinks. Get the community back together. The social aspect people say they are craving.

ikeano29 · 28-08-2020 08:06AM

I taught the pubs are already open. They give a Chinese or chips going out the door

weldoninhio · 28-08-2020 08:09AM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I mean they don't have to sell food. Soft drinks. Get the community back together. The social aspect people say they are craving.

And who pays the staff, electricity, heating, etc.??

Macy0161 · 28-08-2020 08:33AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Same with my local. The owner wasn’t exactly making a killing only keeping a service open to the community. It’s still closed and the word is now that it’s gone gone never to open again. Community destroyed. Thanks gov.

How was it going to be viable with the physical distancing?

My father in law is the same as above, a couple of pints a three times a week in our local. However, the interaction he missed is the spontaneity of who'd be in, squeezing into the bar, the shuffle up when one of the other lads arrived. It's actually what I miss too, and why I sucked up the crap line up of multinational beers! That's gone whether the Government allowed all pubs open or not.

I wouldn't be surprised if many ones that were essentially ticking over pre-covid don't open. I'm not sure it's necessarily the closure, financially, for many of them. But as they are part of the community, it's handier to blame restrictions than say they've had enough. They've probably been clearing more with PUP.

hetuzozaho · 28-08-2020 08:52AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

And who pays the staff, electricity, heating, etc.??

The customers?

Thelonious Monk · 28-08-2020 08:55AM

https://www.thejournal.ie/pubs-reopening-in-ireland-5188678-Aug2020/

So the "Vintners" want sales of off-licence booze restricted for the good of us all so we won't go to gatherings and house parties.
Honestly when they come out with this stuff I find it hard to feel any sympathy for their loss of trade and it makes me not want to rush back to pubs when they do open. ****.

BPKS · 28-08-2020 09:05AM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

The customers?

A guy might go in for 2 hours and drink 4 pints (say spend €20). I doubt he is going to go in and spend €20 on 6 Club Orange.

Opening for soft drinks as some sort of youth club for auld lads isn't a reasonable suggestion.

murpho999 · 28-08-2020 09:12AM

Another publican on Pat Kenny, Newstalk now.

Calling for Off-licences to be closed and pubs open as they look after customers.

Trying to make out there's thousands of house parties going on all over the place.

Says people buy slabs of beer with 24 drinks in them but they'd never drink 24 in a pub.

Really a terrible argument and turns me off publicans.

Thelonious Monk · 28-08-2020 09:14AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Another publican on Pat Kenny, Newstalk now.

Calling for Off-licences to be closed and pubs open as they look after customers.

Trying to make out there's thousands of house parties going on all over the place.

Unbelievable. I hope his business goes under.

MrStuffins · 28-08-2020 09:17AM

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0828/1161777-coronavirus/

And too right!

How selfish of these guys to ruin it for those following the guidelines!

They should be come down on hard! I'm due one of the other pubs in the area who are following the guidelines will welcome the extra clientele.

MrStuffins · 28-08-2020 09:21AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Says people buy slabs of beer with 24 drinks in them but they'd never drink 24 in a pub.

Did he mention that I can buy 24 cans in an offo for €20? And I can drink as many as I want and keep the rest in my fridge?

Did he also mention that if I bought the same number of drinks in his pub it would cost €110 - €120?

dominatinMC · 28-08-2020 09:25AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Did he mention that I can buy 24 cans in an offo for €20? And I can drink as many as I want and keep the rest in my fridge?

Did he also mention that if I bought the same number of drinks in his pub it would cost €110 - €120?

Christ almighty, give it a rest. You obviously have an anti-pub agenda, that's fine, you're entitled to it and it's your prerogative. But it's also completely transparent as to what your agenda is, and when you're constantly posting on here, it comes across as pathetic.

The White Wolf · 28-08-2020 09:27AM

"Justin wrote:

And this "our drinking culture"....that drinking culture that sees people act like scum, people more prone to commit crime, more wives beaten, more people with health issues, more people with depression.

You might want it to be your culture, not everyone sees it as the epicenter of their life. You sound like someone highly dependent on alcohol

Between your drunken Mick comment and the above it feels like you've got a lot of anger and shame towards pubs and our "culture", long before Coronavirus rared its head.

People do and suffer all of the above without drink playing its part. Sure it exasperates those issues, but those issues won't go away by keeping the pubs closed. Indeed, I've read reports of domestic abuse being on the up during lockdown and restrictions.

I can't help but feel that you're not so much motivated by people's suffering but more out of some strange sense of shame over, as put it, our "drunken Mick" reputation.

MrStuffins · 28-08-2020 09:35AM

dominatinMC wrote: »

Christ almighty, give it a rest. You obviously have an anti-pub agenda, that's fine, you're entitled to it and it's your prerogative. But it's also completely transparent as to what your agenda is, and when you're constantly posting on here, it comes across as pathetic.

You obviously haven't read any of my posts.

I love the pub. I worked in pubs for a lot of my life. I'm going to the pub tomorrow for delicious pints and looking forward to it.

whisky_galore · 28-08-2020 09:37AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Another publican on Pat Kenny, Newstalk now.

Calling for Off-licences to be closed and pubs open as they look after customers.

Trying to make out there's thousands of house parties going on all over the place.

Says people buy slabs of beer with 24 drinks in them but they'd never drink 24 in a pub.

Really a terrible argument and turns me off publicans.

Prohibition creates more problems than it solves.
Vintners being their usual whingy naïve selves.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-08-2020 09:38AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0828/1161777-coronavirus/

And too right!

How selfish of these guys to ruin it for those following the guidelines!

They should be come down on hard! I'm due one of the other pubs in the area who are following the guidelines will welcome the extra clientele.

You seem to be absolutely loving other people’s misery. That’s pretty pathetic.

HBC08 · 28-08-2020 09:38AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Another publican on Pat Kenny, Newstalk now.

Calling for Off-licences to be closed and pubs open as they look after customers.

Trying to make out there's thousands of house parties going on all over the place.

Says people buy slabs of beer with 24 drinks in them but they'd never drink 24 in a pub.

Really a terrible argument and turns me off publicans.

Crazy argument and will never happen,any pub owner I know would be tearing their hair out listening to that sh1te.Stupid stuff like this does nobody any favours and might hurt the sympathy that is out tbere for publicans at the moment.Is it possible they just got a crank on Pats show because they knew it would get a reaction? the crank and the plank!

dominatinMC · 28-08-2020 09:40AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

You obviously haven't read any of my posts.

I love the pub. I worked in pubs for a lot of my life. I'm going to the pub tomorrow for delicious pints and looking forward to it.

Unfortunately, I've trawlled through all the posts on here. And I find it hard to believe the sentiment expressed in your second paragraph, based on your post history. Anyway, enjoy the alleged pints later..

MrStuffins · 28-08-2020 09:42AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

You seem to be absolutely loving other people’s misery. That’s pretty pathetic.

On the contrary!

Having pubs open in a safe manner (like they are now) helps us avoid the misery of death that Covid brings to the families of the victims.

If we all just cared about each other and not just ourselves, we could compromise and everyone would be happy.

hetuzozaho · 28-08-2020 09:51AM

BPKS wrote: »

A guy might go in for 2 hours and drink 4 pints (say spend €20). I doubt he is going to go in and spend €20 on 6 Club Orange.

Opening for soft drinks as some sort of youth club for auld lads isn't a reasonable suggestion.

Standing still and saying the pandemic doesn't suit them isn't getting them anywhere.

They need to adapt.

murpho999 · 28-08-2020 10:09AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Did he mention that I can buy 24 cans in an offo for €20? And I can drink as many as I want and keep the rest in my fridge?

Did he also mention that if I bought the same number of drinks in his pub it would cost €110 - €120?

Pat pulled him and said the slab may not be drunk in one go and kept for another time.

The publican from Cork gave a very poor argument.

Macy0161 · 28-08-2020 10:57AM

There's zero chance of the Government inflicting further damage on the economy by halting off-sales, but the sympathy I have for publicans is really tested by this rubbish.

My main issue has been around the economics of the "rural" pubs that have been put forward, I'll be going to my third "food" pub in a week this evening, but they really know how to píss off a significant portion of their potential customer base.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-08-2020 11:12AM

I fully back the pubs to open but the suggestions put forward by the VFI to clamp down on off sales just shows them up to be the scummy organisation that they are. Sympathy for the publicans not for the vintners.

MrStuffins · 28-08-2020 11:15AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I fully back the pubs to open .......

The pubs ARE open.

Macy0161 wrote: »

I'll be going to my third "food" pub in a week this evening,

See? This poster has been to the pub twice already this week.

If you want a pint, go have one.

hetuzozaho · 28-08-2020 11:18AM

The guy on Pat Kenny from vintners saying he'll make sure you get home safely from his premises.

Who do they think they are fooling?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-08-2020 11:18AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

The pubs ARE open.

See? This poster has been to the pub twice already this week.

If you want a pint, go have one.

Read the thread title and come back when you’ve a proper argument beyond “the pubs are open”...

Richard Hillman · 28-08-2020 11:20AM

You can bet your bottom that NPHET wanted the off licenses closed back in March/April but Varadkar knew he would face insurrection.

They ain't closing any off licenses. There would be blood on the streets and NPHETs Coup would be unsuccessful.

PTH2009 · 28-08-2020 11:20AM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

The guy on Pat Kenny from vintners saying he'll make sure you get home safely from his premises.

Who do they think they are fooling?

Ha, once you're turfed out they couldn't give a **** if your knocked down/fall into a river/mugged etc

Bouncers same attitude

stephenjmcd · 28-08-2020 11:21AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Read the thread title and come back when you’ve a proper argument beyond “the pubs are open”...

"Pubs are open" & "I've had my lovely Guinness" same posts time and time again.

If pubs were open there wouldn't be any debate on opening the CLOSED pubs.

The day you can go into a pub and have only a pint is the day pubs are open. Until then dress it whatever way you want your in a restaurant and under legislation is a restaurant

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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