How is China getting on?

A bit of a problem re harvest, land still flooding, saying young missing scientist studying elsewhere...

Joe Square Cog wrote: »

Don't reckon, it was a BSL4 Biosafety Level 4 Contaiment Lab (googlebot says only 5 in Europe, 21 or so in the world), which means if you drop your toast there and it lands butterside down on the welcome mat, then best to bin it.

nearest is the UK in the south west I think

thebaz wrote: »

Every day since March they have between 10 and 30 cases , in a country of 1.5 billion , no second wave , meanwhile eveywhere else ther has ben peaks and second waves , and somohow China bucks the trend , they have serious questions to answer, but somehow I dont think they will be.

The Chinese Communist Party haven't told the truth since 1921. I doubt they are telling the truth now. Xi Jinping declared victory on the virus at the beginning of the year after the Wuhan lockdown. So they cannot let it come back now otherwise the coward will lose face.

No lockdowns as such any more except when cases are found:

A few cases were detected last week in a city of 9million so they tested everyone in the city and found 12 cases apparently, quarantined them and move on. Took them 5 days to test 9 million.

Wouldn’t this be cheaper than stalling an economy of entire countries?

We should test all of the island of Ireland, enforce quarantine of all infected.

The other thing China does is have mandatory quarantine of people who enter the country for 14 days enforced.

We also need to manage the people entering in ways like this?

China apparently is flying now no lockdowns because of these two very simple things:

Test everyone where there are cases, forced quarantine for infected

Force quarantine for people entering the country or get tested for covid before being allowed to mix with the population

Do you believe the Chinese government's numbers?

Thierry12 wrote: »

Why do people keep saying that?

Because people have seen in the past how the Chinese government acted.

If you believe the Chinese government's version of the internet which they feed their own citizens right now, you'll find there was no tiananmen square protest in 1989, there is no tibetan independence movement, and only a couple of people died during Chairman Mao's Great Leap Forward.

The Onion is probably a more truthful publisher then what comes out of China.

Thierry12 wrote: »

2.1 million cars are on the road here

Most of the test centres would be drive-thru

It can be done, it's just we can't

- Everyone in ireland has their own car? There's no way the road network could cope with this, and they'd have to set up about 10,000 tents.

- How quickly would these tests be finished?

Keep in mind that you'd need to keep the transmission rate to 0 during the test time. Even a small percentage can reinfect a whole country without lockdown.

Basically it boils down to lockdown and testing... which is what our government (along with most other governments) is trying to do.

The question it leads to is valid - "can our economy actually afford lockdown?" - but there's no easy answer to a complex problem.

My own opinion is that we probably can't afford lockdown, and the govt will probably have to go back to the original plan, which was to merely smooth out the covid rate so hospitals don't get overwhelmed.
They again with the uncertainty regarding reinfection, they're just playing it safe.

Until there's a vaccine i doubt it'll really be over, so we might have to make the hard choice to just leave lockdown anyway, but its not going to be as simple as just ordering everyone to get tested immediately and we can finish lockdown

The way they do the mass testing is smart. It’s called batch testing. Basically run 100 samples at a time and only zone in if a positive found. Test 50 then 25 then 12etc, very quick way of IDing the few positives. No reason we couldn’t do this also.