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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #3032
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You're not the first person that has tried this and you won't be the last.
    You think it is all about a few pints.

    What is your personal motivation? There is something you want to do but can't. What is it?


  • #3033
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hmmm wrote: »
    What I don't understand about some of the discussions on this forum is how posters are ignoring the evidence we see worldwide.

    The US is a good example where we have lockdown states and no-lockdown states. The states which ignored the virus are in just as much of an economic dip as the North West states, and in many ways are worse because they haven't brought the virus under control.

    People aren't stupid. If you have open bars and nightclubs, most people won't go to them if the virus is still spreading. The only way to recover the economy is to first bring the virus under control.

    Not true at all. Most people can see that the risk is very small.
    That is why we have seen queue's for penneys, ikea, Hardware stores etc

    Most people will go anywhere were you can act normal. Hence house parties are so popular.


  • #3034
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    i_surge wrote: »
    The economy was fine.

    It is bad now because of covid and it will continue to be bad until it is over.

    How anyone thinks we can live along side the source of all our problems is beyond me.




    Economy will change, the downturn will just speed up what was going to happen. Accountants, IT etc are all short of staff and impossible to get the staff right now.


    Other areas will struggle but others will grow


  • #3035
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    https://twitter.com/GraalTruth/status/1298385687729799170?s=19

    This risk index is based on Swedish COVID-19 restrictions in June.. No masks, No lock down, No closure of restaurants & bars, no public transportation restrictions, no closed borders, no school closed... things that ‘increase’ the risk index.


  • #3036
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not true at all. Most people can see that the risk is very small.
    That is why we have seen queue's for penneys, ikea, Hardware stores etc

    Most people will go anywhere were you can act normal. Hence house parties are so popular.


    In fairness the risk at Ikea, Pennys etc is very low. Also masks are lowering that risk


    The risk at big pubs and night clubs is alot higher, due to people singing and shouting, hence more droplets from people.


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  • #3037
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    i_surge wrote: »
    America ****ed
    Brasil ****ed
    Latin America getting there
    Europe simmering on a hold pattern it can't get out of

    Iceland, new zealand, taiwan, vietnam and some others, more or less life as normal.

    It doesn't take a genius to guess at the economic trajectories of these places for the next few years.

    When is the penny going to drop?




    Iceland is an island away from everyone, so alot easier. Also the people of Iceland will do what is right and will quarantine for two weeks automatically and don't need the government to chase them to do it.


    Ireland is the opposite, we don't behave, even our public figures don't behave.


  • #3038
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    hmmm wrote: »
    The only way to recover the economy is to first bring the virus under control.
    Specify please. Could mean anything.


  • #3039
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    topper75 wrote: »
    Specify please. Could mean anything.

    1 new case per day per million max


  • #3040
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    topper75 wrote: »
    Specify please. Could mean anything.
    Sure. When people head outside their homes and don't think there is a significant risk of bringing a dangerous respiratory virus back to their families.


  • #3041
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This absolute fool Stephen Donnelly threatening a national lockdown again. With 4 in ICU


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  • #3042
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This absolute fool Stephen Donnelly threatening a national lockdown again. With 4 in ICU

    The fools are the ones forcing those decisions.

    A voluntary planned for lockdown could be ok. National holiday to save the nation :D

    Having it slapped on you out of nowhere due to bad behaviour would be much worse.


  • #3043
    walus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    hmmm wrote: »
    What I don't understand about some of the discussions on this forum is how posters are ignoring the evidence we see worldwide.

    The US is a good example where we have lockdown states and no-lockdown states. The states which ignored the virus are in just as much of an economic dip as the North West states, and in many ways are worse because they haven't brought the virus under control.

    People aren't stupid. If you have open bars and nightclubs, most people won't go to them if the virus is still spreading. The only way to recover the economy is to first bring the virus under control.

    What do you understand under "bring virus under control"? Could you define that please?

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • #3044
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hmmm wrote: »
    Sure. When people head outside their homes and don't think there is a significant risk of bringing a dangerous respiratory virus back to their families.

    I think this part is extremely important to note.
    People think there is a significant risk because the media and the government are doing their best to get that message out there.

    But the stats don't back it up. Most of the nursing home cases survived.

    We have a tiny death rate and a mild illness to deal with.


  • #3045
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,344 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I think this part is extremely important to note.
    People think there is a significant risk because the media and the government are doing their best to get that message out there.

    But the stats don't back it up. Most of the nursing home cases survived.

    We have a tiny death rate and a mild illness to deal with.

    Would volunteer to be infected with this new coronavirus? Surely you think it’d be worth it since you’d acquire some level of immunity and you know for a fact that you’d only have a mild illness and make a full recovery with no long term effects.


  • #3046
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Deleted User wrote: »

    We have a tiny death rate and a mild illness to deal with.

    For now.

    Do you think you have some perceptual powers that the doctors and epidemiologists don't? They can see the numbers just as well as you but they know enough about viruses to know it doesn't support your thirst for pints or whatever it is you are after just yet. The ****er multiplies, fast, if you let it.

    You filter the data with bias and misunderstanding to get to your conclusion. They filter it with knowledge and experience.


  • #3047
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Deleted User wrote: »
    We have a tiny death rate and a mild illness to deal with.
    And the longer you keep telling people this the longer they are going to ignore you.

    If you accepted the reality that it is a dangerous virus, and most people don't want to be responsible for someone in their family getting sick, the sooner you can see the way out of this is us all taking very simple actions (e.g. social distancing, mask wearing, washing hands) to reduce the likelihood of spread.


  • #3048
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Would volunteer to be infected with this new coronavirus? Surely you think it’d be worth it since you’d acquire some level of immunity and you know for a fact that you’d only have a mild illness and make a full recovery with no long term effects.

    Another ignorant fool who ignores the reality and data. Show me where it is harmful? You are just spouting your nonsense opinions that it is generally harmful, when it is harmful only to a very small, vulnerable sector of society.


  • #3049
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Would volunteer to be infected with this new coronavirus? Surely you think it’d be worth it since you’d acquire some level of immunity and you know for a fact that you’d only have a mild illness and make a full recovery with no long term effects.

    Some people who survived this "mild" illness have lost limbs from sepsis.


  • #3050
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Another ignorant fool who ignores the reality and data.

    :pac:


  • #3051
    walus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    hmmm wrote: »
    Sure. When people head outside their homes and don't think there is a significant risk of bringing a dangerous respiratory virus back to their families.

    I'm sorry but that is the case already. I don't feel that there is a significant risk to my family from covid 19. And I bet I'm not alone. I can read the stats. I also know that it sends a different message to say that the risk of someone dying is 2% vs the likelihood of someone surviving is 98%. Information is one thing and another is how it is portrayed.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



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  • #3052
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    i_surge wrote: »
    :pac:

    Typical ignorant response from anti-relaxers.


  • #3053
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Typical ignorant response from anti-relaxers.

    Look at this tribal ****e

    Rise above yourself


  • #3054
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    i_surge wrote: »
    Look at this tribal ****e

    Rise above yourself

    Can you speak English? You post like a bot. What is your concern here?


  • #3055
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Can you speak English? You post like a bot. What is your concern here?

    Having my life ruined by collective stupidity.


  • #3056
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    i_surge wrote: »
    Having my life ruined by collective stupidity.

    That sounds serious, you should speak to a doctor.


  • #3057
    Mr E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,669 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Mod: Lads keep it civil please.


  • #3058
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Anti-relaxers :D:D:D


  • #3059
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,344 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Put away the handbags ladies let’s not get the thread locked :pac:


  • #3060
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Anti-relaxers :D:D:D

    Could we end up as divided as the states over this?


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  • #3061
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hmmm wrote: »
    And the longer you keep telling people this the longer they are going to ignore you.

    If you accepted the reality that it is a dangerous virus, and most people don't want to be responsible for someone in their family getting sick, the sooner you can see the way out of this is us all taking very simple actions (e.g. social distancing, mask wearing, washing hands) to reduce the likelihood of spread.

    It is not for the vast majority of us though. That is a fact that is simple to see.


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