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The world when this is over

  • 21-08-2020 10:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭


    Today the WHO suggested this pandemic will end in 2 years.
    Is how the world works now changed forever or will behaviours revert to old norms when a cure is found?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Today the WHO suggested this pandemic will end in 2 years.
    Is how the world works now changed forever or will behaviours revert to old norms when a cure is found?

    Life will go back to normal, Anto will still be shuffling around the streets looking for a spare 2 youro. As much as we get annoyed with day to day life and living, I’d rather have our normal back than this “new normal” bull****.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Today the WHO suggested this pandemic will end in 2 years.
    Is how the world works now changed forever or will behaviours revert to old norms when a cure is found?

    There might be some lessons learned, but honestly I doubt it. The minute this **** is resolved, all will go the same arse road, more freedom moaners etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Things will be the same as before, only worse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Today the WHO suggested this pandemic will end in 2 years.
    Is how the world works now changed forever or will behaviours revert to old norms when a cure is found?

    Things will be exactly the same as they were before, you'd swear the way some people are talking that we won't have gigs or sport ever again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    I guess there will be a lot of public hesitation about another virus spreading rapidly

    I for one would like to keep wearing face coverings on public transport. Especially if it goes back to sardines....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Today the WHO suggested this pandemic will end in 2 years.
    Is how the world works now changed forever or will behaviours revert to old norms when a cure is found?

    There's been pandemics before and there will be after this one. Things will get back to normal like they have every other time. Until we're unlucky enough to get another black death, or worse, type event, the world will go on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    We still have brexit to go next year . Think this country will look a lot different or at least some parts of the country


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Tig98 wrote: »
    I guess there will be a lot of public hesitation about another virus spreading rapidly

    I for one would like to keep wearing face coverings on public transport. Especially if it goes back to sardines....

    It's not a bad idea but I reckon it will be stigmatized again and encourage anti social behaviour after a while I'm afraid to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    I think we’lll all be back to 2007 finances or worse when the other shoe drops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    I think a lot of us thought that if we hid indoors for a long enough period of time, the virus would get tired of waiting and go away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,653 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    We still have brexit to go next year . Think this country will look a lot different or at least some parts of the country

    Ah thank god. I want brexit back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Hopefully, those at the helm of the disgraced WHO will be frog-marched before an international criminal court in the Hague and charged with mass murder.
    It would be a huge bonus if their paymasters in the CCP were also held to account but this is unlikely to happen, but never say never.
    Those that elected Dr. Tedros as Director General ahead of an individual with 40 years experience in several countries have blood on their hands.
    Tedros never practiced even as a medical doctor, was a member of a proscribed terrorist organisation, took part in rigged elections in Ethiopia, attempted to appoint the 93 year old Robert Mugabe as 'goodwill ambassador' for the WHO, covered up several cholera epidemics in his own country intimidating investigating journalists in the process,received bribes from China while serving as Foreign Minister.
    All of this and he is just one person at the top table of a so-called 'health organisation'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    This and hard Brexit is the perfect storm. Angles Ashes here we come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    I think the consensus may well be that the cure was worse than the disease.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    It will go back to normal eventually.

    I dread to think what will happen when a dangerous virus does turn up, like a virus that causes the global death rate to surpass the birth rate.

    Not a virus that may or may not have some slight excess mortality, or arguments about died with or of Covid or has a 70% survival rate in nursing homes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,933 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Aside from the worries about health, the economy,job security and mental health (all very real and relevant concerns) I find it a very interesting time to be experiencing. To see how people have reacted at every level is interesting and I would not have expected it to showcase division in such obvious ways.

    I had hoped for a period that the world would take it as a warning sign of the seriousness of things when unprepared and that this would lead to more sensible governments and policies but I am not so confidence that this will be the case.

    The following is a very stunning image.

    AP20232111894684.jpg?w=1024&h=681&crop=1

    The climate crisis, a contributory factor for devastating wildfires, is still building and while Covid has enforced the belief for many to listen to the science, it unfortunately has also shown that many have no interest in such an approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭zig


    2020 is looking to be the hottest, or at least the 2nd hottest year on record. Once Covid is over and we begin to see the real effects of climate change seep into the Western world, that will cause more disruption that Covid ever could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Look at countries that beat the virus for a long period of time, life went back to normal pretty quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Look at countries that beat the virus for a long period of time, life went back to normal pretty quick.

    Sweden?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Sweden?

    New Zealand is a good example of that.
    I think one permanent change will be remote working and as a consequence reduced loads in public transport .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Gael23 wrote: »
    New Zealand is a good example of that.
    I think one permanent change will be remote working and as a consequence reduced loads in public transport .

    They barricaded themselves off from the world to wait for a successful vaccine.

    Sweden are more successful IMO.

    Living with this is more appealing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,641 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    It will be like that Bill Hicks joke about the cure for aids, ' There'll be fcuking in the streets man.' :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    It will take a bit of time but the world will go back to normal just like it did after SPanish Flu of 1918


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    We have been so lucky with the low mortality rate from this.

    It's not H5N1.

    At least it's a good preparation for the next pandemic. And there will be.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They barricaded themselves off from the world to wait for a successful vaccine.

    Sweden are more successful IMO.

    Living with this is more appealing

    Vietnam was fully back to normal for over three months. No masks, no social distancing.

    Life will go back to normal everywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    It's not a bad idea but I reckon it will be stigmatized again and encourage anti social behaviour after a while I'm afraid to say.

    Wear one if you want, no? If you have a cold or whatever and are planning on using public transport, you definitely should be wearing one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    The biggest thing that will change is the greater rise in far right nationalism. The economy globally is on life support. 40% unemployment by the end of these 2 years is not unlikely. There will be no money for public health services, health, education. There will be no jobs. There will be repossessions.

    The impact of WW1 and Spanish flu was Hitler, Mussolini and friends. Right wing nationalism is in charge in the US and UK already, Poland and Hungary the same, the impact of this will fuel it further.


  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think the consensus may well be that the cure was worse than the disease.

    This.

    The economy will be left in tatters. Wouldn’t be surprised if tension or even war breaks out in the aftermath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Sweden?

    China


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53816511

    Tested 11m people in a few days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Tig98 wrote: »

    I for one would like to keep wearing face coverings on public transport. Especially if it goes back to sardines....

    If people wore them properly it might be effective but the vast majority of people aren't so it's not that effective.

    The Asian way of wearing a mask if you are unwell is a good idea because they will be worn and used correctly. Mandatory masks are a farce by being worn wrong and taken on and off multiple times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I think it will be similar to how travelling changed after 9/11. Things will revert back to an extent but it will never completely go back to the way it was. There will still be restrictions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Wear one if you want, no? If you have a cold or whatever and are planning on using public transport, you definitely should be wearing one.

    I agree but I just get the feeling most people wont, and then a certain cohort will target those who do.

    To be honest with you, I don't think I'll be wearing one unless required at that point.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Hopefully after this virus people will stop speaking in the fucking clichés that can be seen littered throughout this thread.

    "Cure better than the disease"
    "live with this virus"

    I bet you go around telling people about your "staycation". Have you had an original thought in your life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    There'll be some changes. In situations like this change is forced on us and some of the changes turn out to be improvements that otherwise wouldn't have happened. People coming into work with any sort of illness won't be tolerated anymore I don't think. Certainly not where I work anyway. A lot of people will be working from home a lot of the time. It remains to be seen how extensive this will be and the impact that will have on city centres. Id fully expect the government to spend time and money coming up with a pandemic response plan and the EU collectively will do the same. Air travel will take a year or two to come back. I never travelled much for work but I think the people who were over back to the states every few weeks won't be doing that anymore. Maybe it'll get more expensive so we'll have to fly less, I would have done 2 or 3 short holidays every year but I think it'll be a while before it's worth the effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Hopefully after this virus people will stop speaking in the fucking clichés that can be seen littered throughout this thread.

    "Cure better than the disease"
    "live with this virus"

    I bet you go around telling people about your "staycation". Have you had an original thought in your life.

    Oh so bitter.........


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Del2005 wrote: »
    If people wore them properly it might be effective but the vast majority of people aren't so it's not that effective.

    The Asian way of wearing a mask if you are unwell is a good idea because they will be worn and used correctly. Mandatory masks are a farce by being worn wrong and taken on and off multiple times.

    Vast majority? Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Maybe it'll get more expensive so we'll have to fly less, I would have done 2 or 3 short holidays every year but I think it'll be a while before it's worth the effort.

    I don’t fly for sun holidays anyway. I have family in the USA i visit twice a year. It will have to resume at some point in the future, even if it costs more it won’t be a problem.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Oh so bitter.........

    Yeah sometimes I'm jealous I'm not just completely thick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Biscuitus


    Things I hope stay in place:

    Working from home 1-4 days a week if industries where its possible
    Hand sanitiser in supermarkets and restaurants
    Wearing masks if you're sick and have to go out
    Staying home if you are sick and not dragging yourself to the pub with a lemsip
    Massive weddings where you have to invite the lad from college you kind of were mates with

    The only thing I can see changing are some people will be able to work from home more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Yeah sometimes I'm jealous I'm not just completely thick.

    Personal opinions of one selves should be taken with a pinch of salt on a forum.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Massive changes will be needed in working rights laws regarding payments if they want people to stay home when they are sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    The roaring twenties followed the 1918-1921 pandemic - people made up for a few years of hardship with years of exuberance. I can the same happening - there's a lot of deferred spending, a lot of people regretting they didn't travel more or eat out more etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭r439z5ifwt8soq


    I hope I can continue getting parcels delivered without having to answer the door


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Things will be exactly the same as they were before, you'd swear the way some people are talking that we won't have gigs or sport ever again

    There are two extreme opinions..
    First people are in denial, impatient, determined to go back to normal immediately and forget the whole thing.
    Second is an overreaction when told restrictions may have to continue. You'd swear it was going be forever! Even if it takes a year or two, normality will return eventually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    The biggest wealth transfer in human history is also on the horizon - from the wealthiest cohort in history ( boomers ) to millennials/ gen Xers.

    I think the figure globally is 50 trillion dollars. This will find its way over the coming decades to a generation that likes to spend. Its a good time to identify what these people will spend on, and start a business in that area. Experience based services and entertainment for sure.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhall/2019/11/11/the-greatest-wealth-transfer-in-history-whats-happening-and-what-are-the-implications/#4788b2794090


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    I hope GPs will continue to phone you in from your car when it’s your turn, instead going back to sitting in a crowded waiting room full of sick people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I fcukin hate weddings so it would be great if they stayed small close family friends events. I know some people love them but lots don’t


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Multipass wrote: »
    I hope GPs will continue to phone you in from your car when it’s your turn, instead going back to sitting in a crowded waiting room full of sick people.
    How on earth was this standard protocol for such a long time.
    hmmm wrote: »
    The roaring twenties followed the 1918-1921 pandemic - people made up for a few years of hardship with years of exuberance. I can the same happening - there's a lot of deferred spending, a lot of people regretting they didn't travel more or eat out more etc.
    I've been getting disappointed flashbacks to the two or three times I decided not to go out at the weekend back in November/December.

    I dunno about everyone else but we're saving a good bit of money by having people over to the house (well, a gazebo in the garden) instead of going out to the pub. I miss the spontaneity of heading into town and bumping into people but there's always a 50/50 chance you'll meet an annoying prick instead of someone you actually wanted to see. It's a bigger incentive to stay in touch with the cool people. Sorry pubs. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    [QUOTi don’t have cE=Multipass;114386964]I hope GPs will continue to phone you in from your car when it’s your turn, instead going back to sitting in a crowded waiting room full of sick people.[/QUOTE]

    I don’t have a car though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Mr rebel


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Today the WHO suggested this pandemic will end in 2 years.
    Is how the world works now changed forever or will behaviours revert to old norms when a cure is found?

    2 years is a surprisingly optimistic timeframe from them. I would have thought double that at least.


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