How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

Drumpot wrote: »

Very interesting article that you linked:

- Israeli Irish government invited the entire student body back in late May August.
- Within days, infections were reported at a Jerusalem high school, which quickly mushroomed into the largest outbreak in a single school in Israel, possibly the world.The virus rippled out to the students’ homes and then to other schools and neighborhoods, ultimately infecting hundreds of students, teachers and relatives.

Israels advice for other countries:

- “They definitely should not do what we have done,” said Eli Waxman, a professor at the Weizmann Institute of Science and chairman of the team advising Israel’s National Security Council on the pandemic. “It was a major failure.”

- Smaller classes, mask wearing, keeping desks six feet apart and providing adequate ventilation, they say, are likely to be crucial until a vaccine is available. (how much of this is happening in our schools? Certainly not in the primary schools my children are going to.)

- “If there is a low number of cases, there is an illusion that the disease is over,” - Sounds familiar

- “The mistake in Israel,” he said, “is that you can open the education system, but you have to do it gradually, with certain limits, and you have to do it in a very careful way.” Or we can open up everything and see how it does I suppose.

More information suggesting children can spread as much as adults:

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/new-research-finds-kids-just-as-likely-as-adults-to-spread-covid-19?utm_campaign=Newsletter%20%231%20%28RZD8hE%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Klaviyo&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJvZHJ1bWdvb2xlQGdtYWlsLmNvbSIsICJrbF9jb21wYW55X2lkIjogIlNtYzlwRiJ9

Another great video from Dr John specifically about Children and Covid 19. Information used from Data from the CDC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSVLeEtjP-4

Netherlands

- Authorities appear to be giving message that children under 18 do not spread virus as much as adults. Zero evidence to back it up.

CDC:

- Don't know the true incidence of infection from schools (yet Netherlands government have said lower from 18 below for some reason)
- Unclear if children are as susceptible to infection compared to adults
- Unclear if they can transmit the virus as effectively as adults
- Unclear if children likely have same or higher viral loads
- Severity - Less likely in children
- 8/100,000 require hospitalization children, 164/100,000 for adults
- If they get very sick, just as likely to require intensive care as adults
- Hospital rates for children increasing
- Increase risk infants <1 , medical complexity - genetic, neurological, metabolic, obesity, diabetes, Asthma, chronic lung disease, sickle cell diseas, immunosuppression
- Higher hospitalization of Latinos/Hispanic (dr John feels Vit D a factor)
- Children complications - Respiratory failure, myocarditis, shock, acute renal failure, coagulaopathy, multi organ failure, multi system inflammatory syndorm in children (small risk)

Summary - They don't know if children spread as much as adults, there is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

Some people appear to think its OK for the authorities to lie and pretend that schools are "low risk", but I find it as a massive problem. I understand why they are doing it (because they want/need schools open), but it undermines trust in them. This is a massive breach of trust and could come back to haunt them badly if this works out bad. It could also lead to a "WHO" scenario where people do not trust the authorities or what they are saying which could make future management even harder.