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Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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  • #2432
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    No, I can't.
    If the thinking was that alcohol was detrimental then surely ban the sale of alcohol like South Africa did.
    did your extensive research not turn up this?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States#Effects_of_prohibition


  • #2433
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,086 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    What would be the point of banning alcohol sales at shops, wouldn't house parties not just make home brew or distil their own, plus they would just have drug orgies then wouldn't they.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #2434
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,513 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    What would be the point of banning alcohol sales at shops, wouldn't house parties not just make home brew or distil their own, plus they would just have drug orgies then wouldn't they.

    Drug orgies? tell me more, asking for a friend


  • #2435
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,341 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    What would be the point of banning alcohol sales at shops, wouldn't house parties not just make home brew or distil their own, plus they would just have drug orgies then wouldn't they.

    Love to be a fly on the wall when two middle aged women who find out that they can’t get a bottle of rose and a bottle of pink gin from O’Brien’s look at each other and go ‘fcuck it Mary, let’s get an eight ball. Sure I heard crystal meth is fcucking mental. Get a bag of that too. Finish off with some purple haze to take the edge off’. And that’s not even bringing the orgy part into it.

    Reminds me of super Hans going clean

    https://youtu.be/LH7ZCWL472A


  • #2436
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Theres no point anti-vaxxers are just anti-education and/or science and so will always find an excuse to stand out.


    Unless you try reverse psychology they wont change. Thankfully most Irish aren't anti-vax so thats as good as it can get if those who are intelligent and understand reality do take the vaccine.

    I’m not anti-vax, I’m fully up to date with all my vaccines and get the flu shot every year. Same with most of my friends and workmates. I’d say about 70-80% of us would be wary of getting a vaccine that hasn’t been thoroughly tested. If I wanted to be a guinea pig I’d sign up for clinical trials. And this vaccine will not be thoroughly tested if it’s released this year or next.


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  • #2437
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    What else would you like to ban?

    The internet in Meath


  • #2438
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,780 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Safe to say wet pubs wont be opening on the 31st Aug or even in September

    Furious at whats happening regarding these new rules for everything


  • #2439
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    October at the earliest now IMO.


  • #2440
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No choice really the way things are going. I’d be counting the luck that the food pubs are staying open.


  • #2441
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    So, Berlin haven't even been slapped on the wrist, and garda have no new powers, what's stopping every wet pub reopening as soon as they renew their license?? Can't take it away temporarily, can't police every one? What is there to lose......


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  • #2442
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    So, Berlin haven't even been slapped on the wrist, and garda have no new powers, what's stopping every wet pub reopening as soon as they renew their license?? Can't take it away temporarily, can't police every one? What is there to lose......

    They do dont they? They just haven't specified what those powers are, or did I miss that?


  • #2443
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I’m not anti-vax, I’m fully up to date with all my vaccines and get the flu shot every year. Same with most of my friends and workmates. I’d say about 70-80% of us would be wary of getting a vaccine that hasn’t been thoroughly tested. If I wanted to be a guinea pig I’d sign up for clinical trials. And this vaccine will not be thoroughly tested if it’s released this year or next.

    Yep, I’m pro vaccination but I won’t be first in line signing up to get this one.
    I’ll definitely be holding out to make sure it’s safe and there’s no adverse side effects before I get it. I’d be more fearful of developing some sort of random side effect or medical condition than I am of getting covid-19.


  • #2444
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    :rolleyes:
    py2006 wrote: »
    They do dont they? They just haven't specified what those powers are, or did I miss that?

    It was discussed, haven't seen it in writing though....


  • #2445
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I’m not anti-vax, I’m fully up to date with all my vaccines and get the flu shot every year. Same with most of my friends and workmates. I’d say about 70-80% of us would be wary of getting a vaccine that hasn’t been thoroughly tested. If I wanted to be a guinea pig I’d sign up for clinical trials. And this vaccine will not be thoroughly tested if it’s released this year or next.
    It's amazing how all these pro-vaccine people never stop talking about how they won't be taking a vaccine.

    The whole world is crying out to get out of this mess, and yet we have a campaign of misinformation to try and spread doubt about the one thing which will get us out of it.


  • #2446
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Yep, I’m pro vaccination but I won’t be first in line signing up to get this one.
    I’ll definitely be holding out to make sure it’s safe and there’s no adverse side effects before I get it. I’d be more fearful of developing some sort of random side effect or medical condition than I am of getting covid-19.

    There will be adverse side effects the same as every vaccine. You just have to weight them up. Myself, I won’t be getting any for a virus that 99.997% of the population never gets. There’s more of a chance of a bus killing me.


  • #2447
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Lots of pubs have opened up in last week in the city that were staying closed.

    Many offering a pizza and pint deal for 11 euro

    Or bottle of wine and pizza for 20 euro type thing.


  • #2448
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    I’d be more fearful of developing some sort of random side effect or medical condition than I am of getting covid-19.
    You'd take your chances with a virus which has completely unknown side-effects and has inflicted gruesome deaths on thousands, has forced older people into hiding and devastated the economy, rather than take a vaccine which has been developed by some of the best scientists in the world and will be tested on tens of thousands of people?


  • #2449
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Fitz* wrote: »
    October at the earliest now IMO.

    They won't open this year. Things will get worse rather than better with schools opening and winter drawing in.

    Government should give the courtesy to pub owners and staff of a realistic timeline rather than the rolling 3 weeks decision when everybody knows what the outcome will be.


  • #2450
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    There will be adverse side effects the same as every vaccine. You just have to weight them up. Myself, I won’t be getting any for a virus that 99.997% of the population never gets. There’s more of a chance of a bus killing me.
    Clearly your knowledge of vaccines is as bad as your knowledge of statistics.


  • #2451
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    We are being run by the Saudi Royal Family.


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  • #2452
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Any word of octoberfest in Dublin.


  • #2453
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,780 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Any word of octoberfest in Dublin.

    go to the offy, buy a ****load of German beer and drink it at home with german music in the background

    No way will something like that happen this year,


  • #2454
    freak scence
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭freak scence


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    We are being run by the Saudi Royal Family.

    who exactly is that ?


  • #2455
    freak scence
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭freak scence


    anyone been to whiterspoons hear the saps are not doing table service no masks on staff totally against guidelines , don't like dobbing in people but these f ucks hell yeah


  • #2456
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    freak scence wrote: »
    anyone been to whiterspoons hear the saps are not doing table service no masks on staff totally against guidelines , don't like dobbing in people but these f ucks hell yeah

    They aren't open here yet I dont think


  • #2457
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    hmmm wrote: »
    You'd take your chances with a virus which has completely unknown side-effects and has inflicted gruesome deaths on thousands, has forced older people into hiding and devastated the economy, rather than take a vaccine which has been developed by some of the best scientists in the world and will be tested on tens of thousands of people?

    Yes I absolutely would. A little bit of caution never did anyone any harm and it isn’t an unreasonable course of action to take.
    It’s always best to have as much factual scientific information as possible before making a big health decision and if that means taking a wait and see approach for a few months, then so be it.

    The first round of the vaccine will be geared toward health care & social care staff and I don’t fit into either of those categories so I have nothing to worry about it anyway, I won’t be a priority to be vaccinated regardless.

    You are being disingenuous by suggesting I merely have to ‘take a vaccine’ though, vaccines can be devastating when they go wrong. I am still in favour of them because the benefit outweighs the risk every time.
    I just won’t be first on the list to volunteer for this one. If you want to take that risk then fair play to you.


  • #2458
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Yes I absolutely would. A little bit of caution never did anyone any harm and it isn’t an unreasonable course of action to take.
    Your "little bit of caution" is contributing to an active campaign by anti-vaxxers who want to give the impression that a potential Covid vaccine is "unsafe", which in turn potentially leads to large numbers of people not taking it, which then potentially leads to a lack of herd immunity which means we are all less safe - and particularly those who we as a community really need to protect. Vaccines will not be as effective for older people and immuno-compromised people, and they are reliant on the rest of us protecting them.

    Your choice is not cost-free. The cost falls on the vulnerable in society.

    Some Covid vaccines (e.g. the Oxford vaccine) have been in development for over 10 years as they originally targeted SARS and MERS. Others are based on proven platforms which have been used for other diseases. They will have gone through phase 1 safety trials, and are being tested on tens of thousands of people in phase 3 trials. They will then need to be approved by regulators in both the EU and Ireland before the general public ever sees it.


  • #2459
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    go to the offy, buy a ****load of German beer and drink it at home with german music in the background

    No way will something like that happen this year,

    But the women in lederhosen.


  • #2460
    freak scence
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭freak scence


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    They aren't open here yet I dont think

    they are, whole point of my question


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  • #2461
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Fitz* wrote: »
    October at the earliest now IMO.

    Halloween was the original reopening time mentioned by the LVA in March


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