Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

joeguevara wrote: »

What did the LVA mean when they said 'that business should be shut down immediately, it is not a pub and does not hold a pub licence'? Are they really saying that all blame lies solely on the event company or was it not part of a licenced premises?

Apparently the establishment does not have a liquor licence. If true talk about a nightmare for the pub industry on the day of the launch of the we don't want sympathy campaign.

If that is true about the license I think the fine is up to a maximum of 50K, although I doubt they would be fined the maximum unless they are to be made an example of.

joeguevara wrote: »

What did the LVA mean when they said 'that business should be shut down immediately, it is not a pub and does not hold a pub licence'? Are they really saying that all blame lies solely on the event company or was it not part of a licenced premises?

Apparently the establishment does not have a liquor licence. If true talk about a nightmare for the pub industry on the day of the launch of the we don't want sympathy campaign.

The LVA are hair-splitting to try and create a deflection.

It has a Publicans Ordinary (Theatre) licence which requires there to be a 'performance' when operating but otherwise is a pub. There are plenty of pubs in Dublin which have this. RIOT on the quays, the Wild Duck in Temple Bar, Barts on South William Street, Ukiyo on Exchequer Street, etc, etc.

The LVA are trying to claim that only a place with the standard Publicans 7-Day Ordinary licence is a "a pub", yet one of their committee members is a hotelier, and a recent winner of an Irish Pub Awards category was also a hotel - these have yet another category of licence.... so they aren't consistent there

Basically, it has a pub category licence and operates as a pub - so it is a pub. The old looks like a duck thing comes to mind.

votecounts wrote: »

In Dublin 2, name of of the pub is you guessed it, Berlin

Already apologised twice for the mistake.

John O.Groats wrote: »

On the contrary it would be entirely appropriate and very meaningful as a warning of what may happen to those who engage in reckless behaviour.

Why not fully think it through before posting.

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Is the footage any worse than a GAA match of Football or Hurling, hundreds of them going on all over the country today.
Yes it's stupid behaviour and wrecklees what went on there, but a lot of stuff allowed to be done is the same.

Doubt you'd see Davy Fitz getting supporters to slug from a bottle of tequila over the barrier, or two camogie players get off with each other after slugging a shot.

joeguevara wrote: »

Doubt you'd see Davy Fitz getting supporters to slug from a bottle of tequila over the barrier, or two camogie players get off with each other after slugging a shot.

That's gotta be better than watching Spurs Joe...

Don't open them up then. We can spiral further into recession and all be safe and sound in our bubbles.

I was in the pub the other night and all the auld fellas were in there and there was no social distancing going on. They were huddling over talking to mates in other tables, pulling up beside others. We have football matches going on in the League of Ireland. Do they need to be going on? No. The virus doesn't know how people are acting. It will spread where it spreads.

DeanAustin wrote: »

That's gotta be better than watching Spurs Joe...

Picture in picture display.

Their reviews on facebook are a sh#t show.
Down to 2.7 and dropping quick I think they were at 4.3

gmisk wrote: »

Is that Jay Bourke? I think he was banned from being a company director after running a few other places into the ground....I wonder what his involvement is

Yes. Still disbarred til 2024 unless there was an appeal that wasn't reported. Which would be unlikely.

gmisk wrote: »

I am guessing you can still own a company and not be a company director?

I'm not saying it's the case in this situation but under Company Law a Director includes the concept of a de facto director I. E. A director in everything but name. If a person owns a company and is involved in management/running of that company, they would normally be considered de facto director which is illegal if disqualified as a director.

seamusk84 wrote: »

Not surprised by it.

I was at my local in North Kildare last night sitting in the smoking area with my meal and pint (Not allowed indoor dining due to LOKdown).
Anyway at a big table near me there was also a 21st in full swing, hugging kissing and jumping all over each other.
Point is, I think after all this time the teens and twenty-somethings are just going to behave this way when they meet up and narcotics are mixed in. Means we are way off having the pubs open for the benefit of boring older folk like me....

Those young people are going to do this stuff anyway, know some younger people in my job and they have stories about there mates being at 50-100 people house parties.
Keeping the pubs closed does nothing for this at all, and teens and 20 something's (girls at least( are going to act that way even without drink or drugs.
In terms of the Berlin event- is that video it cos it looks like about 10-15 people? Not great but if that's all I think people are more pissed off with the imagery rather than anything else. And I think Berlin is a sh-thole after being their before so not defending it for any soft spot.

It's funny how the pubs have to stay closed at this stage but the meat processing plants who have caused the massive spike are getting away with a massive spike. Another simple thing to do even if the meat plants are staying open is ban anyone who is in shared accommodation from working for now.

Bishop of hope wrote: »

If two camóige players are going off with each other the pubs or GAA won't stop that.
But that wasn't my point. Probably 10000 + lads and lassies banging limbs and swapping breaths with each other today without aera sexual thought in their heads.

Are you saying that GAA matches have 5 times the permitted amount? Has this been reported anywhere? As for banging limbs, what) craziness is happening. Never was banging limbs at any hurling match in my life. Is it both arms and legs?