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  • #8012
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Graham wrote: »
    Saying something, and doing it are very different things. Particularly when the 'saying' is done pseudo anonymously from behind a keyboard.

    The reality is likely to be very different when facing a refusal of admission or a couple of questions from the Gardai.

    Shut up, mask up won't need to be an instruction, it's more likely to be an immediate reaction.

    I've a letter exempting me from 'masking up'. The Gardai have zero right to question me on my health, they can ask me to wear one, i'll show them my exemption letter. Although I haven't seen a garda on a bus yet, and i've been getting 4 a day since the whole thing started. I doubt they're gonna start swarming buses now.


  • #8013
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Yes: to protect myself and others
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I'll do me, you do you.
    Masks as a public safety measure will only be truly effective if they're adopted widely. That's irrespective of whether they become legally required or not.

    The fact that you think your "freedom" to not wear a mask trumps everything else, and you're willing to dismiss all evidence and put others at risk to do so. It's like cosplaying as someone being oppressed; dread to think how you'd react if you were to experience truly oppressive government measures.


  • #8014
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I've a letter exempting me from 'masking up'.

    Great for you.

    Why give people the impression you're on some sort of anti mask crusade then, unless you're deliberately trying to provoke a reaction?


  • #8015
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Yes: to protect myself and others
    It's quite fortunate you both have an exemption for masks, whilst also believing them to be totally useless, weldoninho. What's your exemption for?


  • #8016
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,102 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I've a letter exempting me from 'masking up'. The Gardai have zero right to question me on my health, they can ask me to wear one, i'll show them my exemption letter. Although I haven't seen a garda on a bus yet, and i've been getting 4 a day since the whole thing started. I doubt they're gonna start swarming buses now.

    Oh the famous genuine 'letter' again, signed by a genuine medical practitioner in respect of a genuine medical condition no doubt.
    Sure why don't you go for broke and get them to give you a genuine parking badge for disabled spots while you are at it and a few genuine sick certs from work.
    I think we can see here another example of the moral bankruptcy of the anti mask argument.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #8017
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Should people with exemptions from masking up still not be wearing a face guard?


  • #8018
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    No: other
    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    It's quite fortunate you both have an exemption for masks, whilst also believing them to be totally useless, weldoninho. What's your exemption for?

    Don't mind him, it is all a pack of lies, he admitted as much. He claims he knows a doctor friend that will give him a letter saying he has panic attacks if he wears a mask :rolleyes:

    He also admits he does not suffer from such a condition, it is just a lie to avoid wearing a mask.

    But we all know he is just lying about the whole thing, this lad is the Walter Mitty of boards.


  • #8019
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Yes: surgical
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I've a letter exempting me from 'masking up'. The Gardai have zero right to question me on my health, they can ask me to wear one, i'll show them my exemption letter. Although I haven't seen a garda on a bus yet, and i've been getting 4 a day since the whole thing started. I doubt they're gonna start swarming buses now.

    If, and I repeat if, you have a genuine medical condition that prevents you from wearing masks then why didn't you say so at the start instead of leading everyone down the garden path?


  • #8020
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    No: I don't care enough
    is_that_so wrote: »
    As do drivers on the road but once we're past them we shouldn't care. I'm inclined to think at this stage, that this obsession with others and their behaviour during COVID is one of the mental health side effects. The only people we should care about is ourselves and people we are tasked to care for.

    It still directly effects others if you wear a seat belt or not and crash into a tree or not. Even ignoring the affect on the people who have to scrape your body off the road, just the cost of them being paid to do so, or the cost of fixing you up afterwards has a knock on affect on how much money the health services have and if they can then afford to pay for the fancy drugs an technology I need to stay alive.

    Your actions in being an idiot or not affect far more than just you. It was the responsibility of the whole population to stay at home and not all get infected with Covid19 at the same time and overwhelm the health system, just like it is the responsibility of everyone to wear a seat belt in the car to reduce the impact not just on themselves but on the systems that would have to deal with the aftermath of them not wearing it.

    Wearing a mask is about as simple a thing possible that each individual can do, but it has a knock on effect on how much strain is then put on the health services and society. Just do it, it doesn't negatively impact the individual in anyway (except for a couple of exceedingly rare instances where people can't wear masks).


  • #8021
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,244 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I've a letter exempting me from 'masking up'. The Gardai have zero right to question me on my health, they can ask me to wear one, i'll show them my exemption letter. Although I haven't seen a garda on a bus yet, and i've been getting 4 a day since the whole thing started. I doubt they're gonna start swarming buses now.

    Why not say you're exempt rather than running this merry dance?

    It's seems a bizarre attitude.


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  • #8022
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    emaherx wrote: »
    Could probably add to that, that most people are not being asked to wear a mask constantly, only for a few minuets while they shop so shouldn't be that big an issue. Lots of professionals have needed to wear masks for much longer periods of time for a very long time, doctors, decorators and anyone who has ever worked in any kind of dusty enviroment.

    Who are these dentists? is it reported as a world wide phenomina? or just anecdotal from a small number of practices? I find it hard to beleive its affecting 50% of patients.

    It's an American thingy from OP who mentally resides there.
    The video I didn't watch is from some NY media company (Zazoom media group) as far as I can see/find out and a search for 'mask mouth' brings US results, fox and the like.

    I sometimes long for the days when it was just McDonalds, coca cola, sweary music and Hollywood we were mentally colonised by...now its real poison.
    Right wing nut social media propaganda (which OP has posted before), anti mask memes during a pandemic when our public health people are advising their use, Qanon, 5G/Bill Gates/Lizard Men conspiracies. Even their lefty stuff like "Black Lives Matter" or worse "Defund the Police" is I think far more likely to do harm than good in an Irish context. The list of ****e is just endless now and some people seem to lap it up.


  • #8023
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    No: other
    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Why not say you're exempt rather than running this merry dance?

    It's seems a bizarre attitude.

    He's not exempt, he admitted he was lying ...he is a liar.


  • #8024
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Yes: to protect myself and others
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    No mask for me. Doubt i'll need it, but a colleague has said they'll do me a letter stating that I cannot wear a mask as I find restricts my breathing and causes panic attacks.
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I don't actually get panic attacks brainiac.

    But it'll work.

    So we have some people in threads saying; people with no masks shouldn't be hassled, you never know what's going on with them, they could well have a legitimate reason, etc.....and then you have people like this.


  • #8025
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,354 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Yes: surgical
    Stupid people are the number one thing making this pandemic worse.


  • #8026
    brightspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭brightspark


    Yes: surgical
    Even before Covid dentists wrote masks all day.


  • #8027
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    It is amazing that people will pretend to have a disability to get an exemption. This is literally as bad if not worse as someone printing off a blue badge illegally so that they can get a decent parking space. Scum.


  • #8028
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,202 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    No: other
    Some poster posted the analogy of the "emotional support animals" in the US which seems very apt. As in people pissing all over the guide dog exemption for their own selfish wants and making it harder to trust people in genuine need of guide dogs as a result.


  • #8029
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    It’s called Homer Simpson face.
    Syndrome


  • #8030
    Living Off The Splash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    Yes: homemade
    Tesco Merrion Centre this morning. Impressed with Covid precautions taken by Tesco. Not so impressed by the actual shopping centre's precautions. Many people only putting on masks as they entered Tesco despite the fact that Tesco is in the middle of the shopping centre. Have the thicko's not realised that they are compulsory in Shopping Centres and not just the supermarket inside the Shopping Centre.


  • #8031
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,235 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    joeguevara wrote: »
    It is amazing that people will pretend to have a disability to get an exemption. This is literally as bad if not worse as someone printing off a blue badge illegally so that they can get a decent parking space. Scum.

    Its the exact same people.


    If there wasnt people like that then those with genuine excemptions wouldnt be mistakenly confronted.


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  • #8032
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    John O.Groats wrote: »
    If, and I repeat if, you have a genuine medical condition that prevents you from wearing masks then why didn't you say so at the start instead of leading everyone down the garden path?

    The only medical condition that poster has is being a very big dick. I wouldn't go near him though.


  • #8033
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Also, I find it strange that people say that they have an exemption but openly admit to never even trying on a mask. Bit like someone saying that they are allergic to gluten, but have no idea what gluten is.


  • #8034
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Yes: surgical
    Living Off The Splash wrote: »
    Tesco Merrion Centre this morning. Impressed with Covid precautions taken by Tesco. Not so impressed by the actual shopping centre's precautions. Many people only putting on masks as they entered Tesco despite the fact that Tesco is in the middle of the shopping centre. Have the thicko's not realised that they are compulsory in Shopping Centres and not just the supermarket inside the Shopping Centre.

    Less than impressed with various big shops around D12, almost NO staff wearing masks, the ones actually wearing them seem to be older members of staff.


  • #8035
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Living Off The Splash wrote: »
    Tesco Merrion Centre this morning. Impressed with Covid precautions taken by Tesco. Not so impressed by the actual shopping centre's precautions. Many people only putting on masks as they entered Tesco despite the fact that Tesco is in the middle of the shopping centre. Have the thicko's not realised that they are compulsory in Shopping Centres and not just the supermarket inside the Shopping Centre.

    And people putting disposable masks in/out of pockets, using them as chin warmers, leaving their nose exposed. It's almost as if mask usage for a large number of people is merely a tokenist expression. The fine should be down to a lack of usage and/or improper usage.


  • #8036
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,464 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    No: I don't care enough
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    No mask for me. Doubt i'll need it, but a colleague has said they'll do me a letter stating that I cannot wear a mask as I find restricts my breathing and causes panic attacks.
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I don't actually get panic attacks brainiac. :rolleyes:

    But it'll work.
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I've a letter exempting me from 'masking up'. The Gardai have zero right to question me on my health, they can ask me to wear one, i'll show them my exemption letter. Although I haven't seen a garda on a bus yet, and i've been getting 4 a day since the whole thing started. I doubt they're gonna start swarming buses now.
    Quit the trolling


  • #8037
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,785 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    No: I don't care enough
    Living Off The Splash wrote: »
    Tesco Merrion Centre this morning. Impressed with Covid precautions taken by Tesco. Not so impressed by the actual shopping centre's precautions. Many people only putting on masks as they entered Tesco despite the fact that Tesco is in the middle of the shopping centre. Have the thicko's not realised that they are compulsory in Shopping Centres and not just the supermarket inside the Shopping Centre.

    So it's the people's fault not the shopping centre. Do you expect the shopping centre to enforce it and risk confrontation?


  • #8038
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,102 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    murpho999 wrote: »
    So it's the people's fault not the shopping centre. Do you expect the shopping centre to enforce it and risk confrontation?

    It's the people's fault but they should be pulled up on it.
    As I would expect if someone came in smoking a cigarette or drinking a can of beer.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #8039
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,785 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    No: I don't care enough
    Why are people wearing masks outside as shown in the video?

    I don't think the report is accurate and that it's really a problem or a new one? Surely dentists and medical professionals should suffer from this as they were masks all day?

    Most people only need to wear a mask when going into shop so it's only a few minutes a day so I don't see how they can get problems.


  • #8040
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    Dravokivich wrote: »
    And people putting disposable masks in/out of pockets, using them as chin warmers, leaving their nose exposed. It's almost as if mask usage for a large number of people is merely a tokenist expression. The fine should be down to a lack of usage and/or improper usage.

    For anyone that uses the disposable masks and want a mask in a pocket, this video is great. How to make up a mask holder that fits into your pocket and keeps the mask clean.

    https://youtu.be/hmAxNKbdsts


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  • #8041
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,785 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    No: I don't care enough
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    It's the people's fault but they should be pulled up on it.
    As I would expect if someone came in smoking a cigarette or drinking a can of beer.

    Yes but people don't generally do go in with cans of beer or whilst smoking and they are non-contentious issues.

    It's going to take time for this mask wearing to become fully compliant and I think compliance is very high at the moment.


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