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The Irish media hysteria

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  • #102
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    I honestly don’t know if you’re trolling me or just being simple.

    Whoosh.

    So can you explain how your BRITISH media examples relate to IRISH media?


    I mean its clear you are a firm "critical thinker" so what you believe compared to what is actually fact are very different. What is your theory on the British media = Irish media exactly?


  • #103
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    There’s about 300 other threads on boards discussing that. Not sure you know what thread you’re in.

    This one is no different obviously.

    It's a thread complaining about too much attention on covid. This thread is doing everything it says not to do. It should take it's own advice.


  • #104
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    pjohnson wrote: »
    So can you explain how your BRITISH media examples relate to IRISH media?


    I mean its clear you are a firm "critical thinker" so what you believe compared to what is actually fact are very different. What is your theory on the British media = Irish media exactly?

    It's the trump idea be like an ostrich. If you ignore a problem it will go away. Seems to be working great.

    If the Irish media is annoying people they should stop looking at at. Everything has an off switch.


  • #105
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    beauf wrote: »
    It's the trump idea be like an ostrich. If you ignore a problem it will go away. Seems to be working great.

    If the Irish media is annoying people they should stop looking at at. Everything has an off switch.
    Its always an interesting experience when a conspiracist ventures into the wilds.


  • #106
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    RunningFlyer wrote: »
    Yes, of course it’s in the news worldwide, but it seems no other country is so obsessed with the daily figures to the extent of Ireland.

    Unfortunately a large number of Irish people have fallen victim to the scaremongering and are afraid to *try* get on with their lives.

    The near-daily press conferences and updates should be curtailed. It seems such a waste of time to have a press conference on daily figures with terrible journalistic questions. If they used that extra hour to sit down and try figure out a strategy without worrying what the public might think, it would be a lot more effective than playing to the media.

    I see so as the figures rise and we go back into lock down, it should be reported less. Keep it low key.


  • #107
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Its always an interesting experience when a conspiracist ventures into the wilds.

    How's the wild working out for you?


  • #108
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    This is not unlike the media obsession with social media and reality shows. It's why I stopped watching and reading a lot of it. Just garbage.

    Like music radio. It's playing the same 10 songs for months. 50% ads. You tube is the same. It ignores what I actually watch and promote all these influencers who I never watch..

    Solution stop looking at it, or filter what you look at yourself. Don't just mindlessly consume what your fed.

    If you're working yourself up into hysteria. That is you doing that. No one else. Get the facts and then turn it off. Have you no self control.


  • #109
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    its looking like humanity truly is going full retard during this pandemic!


  • #110
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Been done better before.

    https://youtu.be/nR0lOtdvqyg


  • #111
    Tokyo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    its looking like humanity truly is going full retard during this pandemic!

    Mod: You're being deliberately provocative and dickish in your posts. Quit it or I'll remove your access to the thread/forum.


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  • #112
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    hahaha no bother, to be fair, some people really are going a little retard throughout all of this

    Ironic post of the year....


  • #113
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    road_high wrote: »
    Ironic post of the year....

    how come?


  • #114
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    There's no doubt that with the lock down and pandemic has mental health impact on many people.

    But people are a little addicted to social media and news. If it's causing you a problem you should limit your exposure to it.

    Easier said than done if you are actually addicted obviously.


  • #115
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    beauf wrote: »
    There's no doubt that with the lock down and pandemic has mental health impact on many people.

    But people are a little addicted to social media and news. If it's causing you a problem you should limit your exposure to it.

    Easier said than done if you are actually addicted obviously.

    my own therapist and myself believe our mental health services could collapse this winter, its already being several stressed, and this is off peak!


  • #116
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ireland-has-one-of-the-highest-rates-of-mental-health-illness-in-europe-report-finds-1.3707073

    From 2018...


  • #117
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    beauf wrote: »
    From 2018...

    its a hard one to be absolutely accurate about, as most probably personalize their mental anguish, but our mental health services are disturbingly bad


  • #118
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,032 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    pjohnson wrote: »
    So can you explain how your BRITISH media examples relate to IRISH media?


    I mean its clear you are a firm "critical thinker" so what you believe compared to what is actually fact are very different. What is your theory on the British media = Irish media exactly?

    The OP compared the Irish media to European media outlets and the poster you replied to gave examples of this.


  • #119
    one armed dwarf
    Registered Users Posts: 877 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    I have no idea what that poster is trying to prove with the BBC screenshot, but BBC is my main newsource also and they have daily morning updates that summarise the latest corona infos. Right now two of the most read stories are 'is the world winning the C19 fight' and a story about the surge in Austrailia.

    It's really weird to try and argue that there's a uniqueness to the Irish media reaction and consumption of the C19 crisis. I think a big difference is that the UK have already been through a tsunami of cases and deaths while we haven't and are generally a lot more in solidarity about this thing. Not everyone but people I know in the UK who were cynical about this thing before have done an about face when seeing just how devastating it ended up being. Not that there aren't head-in-the-sands types still but there's less friction being met with keeping the public on message with C19 (at least when it's not being undermined by your man Cummings).

    We are still sadly falling victim to normalcy bias here which will hinder our efforts to keep this thing under wraps. There's a difference between 'fear' of the virus (respecting its potential for devastation) that often gets mixed up with being a curtain twitcher that can't function day to day. That's not how this is for a lot of people and I'd argue that the truly fearful ones are the ones putting on a show of not giving a ****e about this thing and showing off about that fact. Life has changed and it's not going back to normal for quite a while, best to get used to it and help keep COVID incidence as low as possible until we can hopefully find more long term mitigations like a vaccine.


  • #120
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    pjohnson wrote: »
    News seems to be reporting facts or stuff that will interest people. The majority dont care about any anti-lockdown dopes or the faux experts so why give them screen time?
    Yes, a State run media (whatever country it may be) decides what will 'interest' people and what they can see and hear - its known as censorship.
    I'm well able to decide for myself what I find interesting or not.


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  • #121
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    This is the worst example of the media stoking up Hysteria I have seen.

    The actual story is that a man arrived on a plane having become sick on board with heart and breathing problems.
    He was taken to the hospital, tested negative for Covid and seemingly had had a heart attack of some sort.

    Indo headline
    wrote:
    "Passenger flying from Ukraine on Ryanair flight brought to hospital after reporting Covid-19 symptoms to crew"

    The headline is plastered all over social media and queue hysterics:

    Send Him Back,
    Close the Airports,
    Quarantine the other passengers
    etc.


    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/passenger-flying-from-ukraine-on-ryanair-flight-brought-to-hospital-after-reporting-covid-19-symptoms-to-crew-39441562.html?fbclid=IwAR2HX5PgM72bj0yJEfdYW0ZRDyt-HHmbPJgKSXyAnC-iKOQ1BuWwXHW6u8k


  • #122
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I find the most common hysteria on these forums now is the hysteria of those claiming every news story related to Covid is hysteria


  • #123
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This is the worst example of the media stoking up Hysteria I have seen....

    I stopped reading once I saw indo in the link.

    ...You should do the same...


  • #124
    WashYourHands
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭WashYourHands


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I find the most common hysteria on these forums now is the hysteria of those claiming every news story related to Covid is hysteria


    I find the most common hysteria on these forums now is the hysteria of those claiming every post that claims every news story related to Covid is hysteria.. is hysteria.


    See? We can all do that, it's not helpful ;)


    Anyway, the new headlines are about Kamala Harris so you can all take a breath


  • #125
    Limpy
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    I am surprised The Journal and others haven't put a headline out with news that Russia has approved a Vaccine for Covid 19.

    That's major news, it will be rolled out within weeks.


  • #126
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Limpy wrote: »
    I am surprised The Journal and others haven't put a headline out with news that Russia has approved a Vaccine for Covid 19.

    That's major news, it will be rolled out within weeks.

    Well when it as actually been approved for mass production and only been released for use in Phase III clinical trails, its not actually that exciting, given a few other vaccine candidates are already in Phase III.


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  • #127
    beauf
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    Largely unknown and relatively untested apparently.


  • #128
    Limpy
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well when it as actually been approved for mass production and only been released for use in Phase III clinical trails, its not actually that exciting, given a few other vaccine candidates are already in Phase III.


    Approved according to the NYT.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/world/europe/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-approval.html


  • #129
    Limpy
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    beauf wrote: »
    Largely unknown and relatively untested apparently.

    Plenty of people brought to labs to be tested from prisons ect. Its Russia they can skip the humane part's.


  • #130
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Limpy wrote: »
    Plenty of people brought to labs to be tested from prisons ect. Its Russia they can skip the humane part's.


    Putin's daughter (i'll assume the scientist daughter) was one of the trial subjects. But don't let that fact stand in your way of some sh1te-talking.


  • #131
    Emmersonn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Emmersonn


    Limpy wrote: »
    Plenty of people brought to labs to be tested from prisons ect. Its Russia they can skip the humane part's.
    At least the prisoners are being made use of. Makes a difference to having them watching Sky Sports


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  • #132
    GPoint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭GPoint


    Independent.ie publishes misleading headlines bordering lies.

    Recent examples being naas hospital cluster and ukranian plane with covid passenger who never had covid symptoms but had heart problems and so was taken to hospital.

    Whats wrong with journalists, are they paid for how many clicks their article gets these days or what!


  • #133
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Emmersonn wrote: »
    At least the prisoners are being made use of. Makes a difference to having them watching Sky Sports

    Jaysus


  • #134
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    More baseless fear mongering.

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1293491123390947328


  • #135
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    More baseless fear mongering.

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1293491123390947328
    Where's the fear mongering? And how is it baseless?

    I'd say it's only realistic to think it'll be around a long time yet. You think it'll disappear some time soon?


  • #136
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    You think it'll disappear some time soon?

    Yes, the worst of it has passed unless we get a second virus.


  • #137
    copeyhagen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    people on this forum are going to be devestated when we all dont end up like the walking dead.

    "my child is 8 years old in first class, but i 100% dont regret keeping him home for 3 years while the world moved on with so many unknown factors. we knew from day1 there was long term effects"


  • #138
    Limpy
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    Aids/Hiv is worse then covid. Life must go on.


  • #139
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    Limpy wrote: »
    Aids/Hiv is worse then covid. Life must go on.

    More people have died of the flu lately.


  • #140
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Limpy wrote: »
    Aids/Hiv is worse then covid. Life must go on.

    Aids and HIV have medications that make it possible to live with them now. They can also be prevented by wearing a condom when having sex. Not comparable at all.


  • #141
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Limpy wrote: »
    Aids/Hiv is worse then covid. Life must go on.
    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    More people have died of the flu lately.

    Neither of which are nearly as contagious


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  • #142
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    More people have died of the flu lately.

    Why the comparison with the flu. This virus is additional to the flu it is not a case of one or the other.

    I agree some media can be a bit sensationalist, but it would still be a mistake to get too complacent. I personally try to take advice from Govt and HSE. The less third party opinions the better. That includes journalists.


  • #143
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    joe40 wrote: »
    Why the comparison with the flu. This virus is additional to the flu it is not a case of one or the other.

    I agree some media can be a bit sensationalist, but it would still be a mistake to get too complacent. I personally try to take advice from Govt and HSE. The less third party opinions the better. That includes journalists.

    It’s all relative. The death rate for under 70’s is at 0.04% which is less than the flu. You don’t see this hysteria every year over the flu though.


  • #144
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    I predict that (with the proviso that things don’t change significantly) that the excess deaths for 2020 v the average for the previous 5 years will be less than 1000.


  • #145
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    I predict that (with the proviso that things don’t change significantly) that the excess deaths for 2020 v the average for the previous 5 years will be less than 1000.

    Interesting look at the numbers so far here:

    https://twitter.com/grahamneary/status/1293312732989657089?s=21


  • #146
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    It’s all relative. The death rate for under 70’s is at 0.04% which is less than the flu. You don’t see this hysteria every year over the flu though.

    Personally I think the second wave of deaths we need to anticipate now are those directly related to the lockdown and the current completely disproportionate response to a pandemic that is over.

    Those deaths are only really beginning now. Suicides related to the impending recession and missed cancer diagnoses to name just two. Unlike the nursing homes these deaths are related to young working people for the most part.


  • #147
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Interesting look at the numbers so far here:

    https://twitter.com/grahamneary/status/1293312732989657089?s=21

    Thanks.

    Useful to read on thread reader https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1293312732989657089.html

    Interesting - my prediction Is probably looking too high but I do fear excess Covid lockdown deaths in future years but they willingly be tough to quantify. Then again you will have less road deaths/accidents etc.


  • #148
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Is there an Ombudsman we can lodge a complaint about RTE to?

    With Wave/Surge 2 they have been a fúcking disgrace and for many Irish it's the only news they know of


  • #149
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    It’s all relative. The death rate for under 70’s is at 0.04% which is less than the flu. You don’t see this hysteria every year over the flu though.

    Oh yes i forgot that over 70s don't exist so this is totally fine


  • #150
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    More maths for the panic stricken:

    Obesity (25-27% of you lot {in the nicest possible way, of course), presents 200% more risk of cov-atality.
    Heard on the radio today that obesity also applies a negative factor of x2/3 of any future vaccine received being effective (might already stand at 50% typically for anyone, not factoring weight etc)

    (Self-imposed^) Obesity is closely related to diabitiesT2 (sugar, junk foods), and cancers, cardio disease and so on.
    ^ The only exception would be specific medications such as steroids which produce extra weight as a side effect.

    Why not start a media war on the obese instead, it would actually do more good, and save more lives if they can adopt some postive changes, while they can?


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  • #151
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Great post from Mollser in the daily thread
    RTE are remarkable, actually shameless. Absolutely lashing the government for not following the NPHET and not going to level 5. Then turn around and do a section on all the businesses around the country that will be devestated by going to level 3 all because of the govt.

    They're a shambles, and completely oblivious to the fact that it was a RTE journo who leaked the thing causing this omni shambles

    Also George completely ignoring the Dublin #'s coming down, now choosing to refer to the 14 day rate not coming down - picking and choosing stats to suit his doom laden narrative.

    RTE, they're not good for the oul mental health!



    Don't give RTE TV views, don't use their horrible Player and don't give their website clicks


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