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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #62
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    It's been addressed that testing is much higher now and more asymptomatic cases are being picked up.

    I'd imagine that 60 now would be similar to 20 positive cases (and 40 unknown asymptomatic cases) back in March.

    Adds to the theory that it might have been on our shores a bit earlier than previously thought. Maybe the numbers experienced now would be more reflective of January.


  • #63
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    Just to add Spain has 4 X the incidence of Ireland per 100K population.

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  • #64
    Wanderer78
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    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Adds to the theory that it might have been on our shores a bit earlier than previously thought. Maybe the numbers experienced now would be more reflective of January.

    i suspect it was, i have heard stories of people experiencing covid type symptoms prior to all this kicking off


  • #65
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    i suspect it was, i have heard stories of people experiencing covid type symptoms prior to all this kicking off

    The hospital admissions and deaths right now wouldn't raise any eyebrows, so it's easy to see how the current state as it is could go on for a few weeks before someone raises an alarm. This also backs up the claim that far more of us were infected than the reported numbers suggest.


  • #66
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    Onesea wrote: »
    Who stocks the shelves?

    Fair point. What I noticed in Tesco was they were enclosing themselves between the shelves and the trolley carrying the food boxes. A sort of safe area.

    But I was only in Tesco once and I normally use my local spar and if someone is stacking one of the four aisles, I go to another aisle or zip quickly past them.


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  • #67
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Fair point. What I noticed in Tesco was they were enclosing themselves between the shelves and the trolley carrying the food boxes. A sort of safe area.

    But I was only in Tesco once and I normally use my local spar and if someone is stacking one of the four aisles, I go to another aisle or zip quickly past them.

    Shoppings visits reduced dramatically, so transmission risk for workers would have been greatly reduced.


  • #68
    caveat emptor
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    Just found this. Rapid risk assessment from ECDC.
    Very interesting. Full of info.
    Lot's of clusters in Catalonia related to outdoor late night drinking activities etc.
    Didn't think that was possible.

    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/covid-19-rapid-risk-assessment-20200810.pdf

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    Testing differences. I honestly don't trust Spain's figures who are dependent on tourist yo-yos. Positivity rate at 5%.
    We are doing twice as much testing per capita but their positivity rate is 3 times higher.

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  • #69
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    Anyone know how long to wait to get a test at the moment around Dublin 24? I was referred for one 24 hours ago and still nothing. Rang my doctor just now and they said they didn't know but it could be up to 3 working days :(


  • #70
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    Onesea wrote: »
    Remember they locked down the city of Leicester.. Lots of cases but no extra people needing hospital. Doctors where left scratching their heads..

    Look at Australia - 7 day average of 13 deaths per day with cases at over 400. Not a simple as you think. Maybe we are just getting lucky with who is infected.


  • #71
    Wanderer78
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Just found this. Rapid risk assessment from ECDC.
    Very interesting. Full of info.
    Lot's of clusters in Catalonia related to outdoor late night drinking activities etc.
    Didn't think that was possible.

    what do you mean?


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  • #72
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    ibarelycare wrote: »
    Anyone know how long to wait to get a test at the moment around Dublin 24? I was referred for one 24 hours ago and still nothing. Rang my doctor just now and they said they didn't know but it could be up to 3 working days :(

    I got one the same day I called back in July and the result the next day, I was very impressed but it seems they weren't ready for the increase in demand.

    Wouldn't leave me too confident in our tracing abilities when you have people waiting longer than 2 days.


  • #73
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    what do you mean?

    I just thought outdoors meant you were almost completely safe.
    Surpising that clusters traced to purely outdoor settings. Could be other factors at play of course. Nevertheless interesting.
    Outdoor vs. indoor settings
    As the more stringent physical distancing measures have been relaxed over time, public health authorities have encouraged people to spend more time outdoors, given knowledge that indoor settings pose a higher risk of transmission than outdoor settings. In Spain, this has led to multiple activities being allowed outdoors, with terraces in bars and restaurants opening earlier on, before the reopening of cinemas or other indoor activities.

    Following the relaxation of measures, many clusters associated with outdoor activities have been reported from Catalonia and most regions in Spain, particularly clusters involving young people participating in late-night leisure activities. There have been some suggestions that projecting the voice to be heard over loud music or just because the outdoor noise, often associated with alcohol intake and relaxation of physical distancing, may be
    associated with increased transmission     [10,15].

    The seasonality of COVID-19 and the potential effect of increasing temperatures and humidity leading to a decrease in the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 has been widely discussed [14,15]. However, the current situation of the pandemic in many countries in the northern hemisphere suggests that these statements may need to be reviewed.


  • #74
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    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Shoppings visits reduced dramatically, so transmission risk for workers would have been greatly reduced.

    Not true. The supermarket was a reason to go out. My local supermarkets are quieter now than they were during lockdown.


  • #75
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    NZ seeing cases of Covid again, I wonder how that got in?


  • #76
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I just thought outdoors meant you were almost completely safe.
    Surpising that clusters traced to purely outdoor settings. Could be other factors at play of course. Nevertheless interesting.

    drunk people tend to become closer in proximity as it goes down, hence why pubs be closed


  • #77
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    polesheep wrote: »
    Not true. The supermarket was a reason to go out. My local supermarkets are quieter now than they were during lockdown.

    I don't know about you but I miss how quiet my local Tesco was. I used to have to queue but when I was in there, it felt like the end of times.


  • #78
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Look at Australia - 7 day average of 13 deaths per day with cases at over 400. Not a simple as you think. Maybe we are just getting lucky with who is infected.

    I think it's more likely a combination of the vulnerable being careful and the nursing/care homes under control.


  • #79
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    Cousin got tested this morning, she was a close contact to someone last Monday and got a phonecall from contact tracers on Thursday.

    Must be waiting 7 days to test contacts? Makes sense given incubation period I suppose, but I thought they test on day 1 and day 7.


  • #80
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    GooglePlus wrote: »
    NZ seeing cases of Covid again, I wonder how that got in?

    All cases of covid in NZ in the past 100 days have been in managed quarantine


  • #81
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    All cases of covid in NZ in the past 100 days have been in managed quarantine

    So a slip there then?


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  • #82
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    GooglePlus wrote: »
    NZ seeing cases of Covid again, I wonder how that got in?
    No cases in the community.
    All detected cases are of returning NZ residents in 14 day quarantine.


  • #83
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    ongarite wrote: »
    No cases in the community.
    All detected cases are of returning NZ residents in 14 day quarantine.

    Mention of a retirement village on the news?


  • #84
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    GooglePlus wrote: »
    So a slip there then?

    NOat all - the cases are in hotels where they are quarantining overseas arrivals for 14 days. No cases outside these settings


  • #85
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    NOat all - the cases are in hotels where they are quarantining overseas arrivals for 14 days. No cases outside these settings

    http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-breaks-out-again-in-new-zealand-after-102-days-12047011


  • #86
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    Onesea wrote: »
    Who stocks the shelves?

    I'll agree it's confusing. There's also the large number of London Bus drivers that were reportedly infected. I don't think we saw that here?


  • #87
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    Breaking news: Russia has successfully developed the vaccine. Its over folks.


  • #88
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    NOat all - the cases are in hotels where they are quarantining overseas arrivals for 14 days. No cases outside these settings

    Guardian reporting four cases in a NZ family who had not travelled, they don't know where it came from


  • #89
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    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/08/new-zealand-has-cases-of-covid-19-from-community-transmission.html

    Family of 4 from this link.


  • #90
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    Looking at the Covid hub there. 21 people in hospital and 7 in ICU. I think it went up to 17/18 around this time last week then dropped the same day down to 9 in total. I’d be expecting some admissions especially in the LOK area and Dublin. But ACE said last week some of these could be discharged with oxygen to use at home if needed.


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  • #91
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    GooglePlus wrote: »
    So a slip there then?

    My daughters live in Western Australia. The cases they have appear to come from those that are in the enforced quarantine hotels. So it’s catching them before they get a chance to spread in the community.

    Western Australia still closed down to all the other states but some billionaire and the Australian government have taken them to court over it. Say it’s unconstitutional. Decision due in September or October.


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