Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

majcos · 06-08-2020 10:46PM

Wonder if the severity of the outbreak in Italy has led to better adherence to public health advice.

At one point in certain regions ventilators were reserved for patients under 80 and then for those under 70 and then for those under 60.

Imagine that has scared the population into an abundance of caution and compliance with social distancing, hand washing, etc. Regardless of what lockdown restrictions are or are not in place, people are more likely to be extra cautious if they have seen/experienced a severe outbreak.

gmisk · 06-08-2020 10:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would a dentist with a patient reporting a fever not request a test before treatment?

Why would they?
The temp wasn't that high tbh. I think for it to be classed as a temp it would have to be steadily over 38?
There is a threshold for being tested I doubt one symptom would be sufficient

caveat emptor · 06-08-2020 10:49PM

completedit wrote: »

My thoughts are that there may be some inside scoop, one that hasn't come to public knowledge, that this virus may have potential very serious long term implications, even for those who are asymptomatic. It's the only thing that makes sense given the demographic and relatively low numbers of deaths that have occurred.

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Surely any research team with knowledge like that would quickly publish to a scientific journal.

I must admit, that made me laugh igCorcaigh.
Massive conspiracy with peer reviewed papers available for free (first time ever in history).
The science is not secret, people believe what they want to.
But don't let the science get in the way of a good conspiracy.

Caveat being that this is a very big pandemic so the potential for weird results is quite high. Will take time to see if there really are long term effects.
WHO say don't get it though.

Spanish Eyes · 06-08-2020 10:49PM

Seamai wrote: »

I'm feeling quite despondent tonight with the way things are going. Is all the good achieved by the millions of individual sacrifices over the last 5 months coming undone? How would that look on a mask?

A cynical grin maybe?

Lovely smile imprinted on the mask I saw, was funny and the wearer was obviously encouraging our own smiles. Probably took two months to get here from WHOA, China!

06-08-2020 10:49PM

majcos wrote: »

Wonder if the severity of the outbreak in Italy has led to better adherence to public health advice.

At one point in certain regions ventilators were reserved for patients under 80 and then for those under 70 and then for those under 60.

Imagine that has scared the population into an abundance of caution and compliance with social distancing, hand washing, etc. Regardless of what lockdown restrictions are or are not in place, people are more likely to be extra cautious if they have seen/experienced a severe outbreak.

Or just higher immunity

VinLieger · 06-08-2020 10:51PM

road_high wrote: »

Ive been in Laois dozens of time since the lockdown ended...wouldn’t think it any different to anywhere else tbh

Midway services outside Port Laoise last Friday, out of 60ish people I was 1 of only 3 wearing a mask

Rimmy · 06-08-2020 10:52PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/production-at-brady-s-ham-plant-in-kildare-stops-after-80-staff-test-positive-for-covid-19-1.4324172?fbclid=IwAR0pGxEJZIEiFrgpxJaanaURzZ0TPH-8138WBo1FRpW3NrpaY4skrHI6UUs

80 staff infected there, jaysus. I refuse to return to the office.

Seamai · 06-08-2020 10:53PM

majcos wrote: »

Wonder if the severity of the outbreak in Italy has led to better adherence to public health advice.

At one point in certain regions ventilators were reserved for patients under 80 and then for those under 70 and then for those under 60.

Imagine that has scared the population into an abundance of caution and compliance with social distancing, hand washing, etc. Regardless of what lockdown restrictions are or are not in place, people are more likely to be extra cautious if they have seen/experienced a severe outbreak.

Possibly, personally I only know 2 people who had COVID-19, a married couple who live 160km from me, no one else. I'm sure plenty don't know anyone who contracted it or if they did it was mild so they may not take it too seriously.

expectationlost · 06-08-2020 10:54PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

All over RTE and Virgin Media this morning about suspected cases rising in hospitals. Suspected cases =/= they think they have the virus.

so why are they in hospital? what other reason?

fr336 · 06-08-2020 10:54PM

majcos wrote: »

Wonder if the severity of the outbreak in Italy has led to better adherence to public health advice.

At one point in certain regions ventilators were reserved for patients under 80 and then for those under 70 and then for those under 60.

Imagine that has scared the population into an abundance of caution and compliance with social distancing, hand washing, etc. Regardless of what lockdown restrictions are or are not in place, people are more likely to be extra cautious if they have seen/experienced a severe outbreak.

This is it. What was going on in Italy certainly terrified me at the time. I'm amazed that a lot of people weren't the same. What's the point if we don't really care at a moment like this?

selectamatic · 06-08-2020 10:55PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Yes, but it should be noted that it's generally a much younger demographic and less of a problem (0 Deaths from over 1000 infections back in June), the key is to isolate these cases and stop them passing it on to the more vulnerable.

The only way that can be done is by catching it at source, tracking and tracing, and Isolating the infected.

I know all about the risks of meat plants as my dad is over 70 and was still working in a meat plant up until March.
Thankfully we convinced him to give it up at that point and he hasn't been in to work since.

There was a bit of a problem in convincing workers from the kepak athleague plant here in Roscommon to self isolate back in April. The guards had to intervene in the end. Hopefully similar problems aren't seen in the midlands.

https://roscommonherald.ie/2020/05/12/hse-was-aware-of-a-number-of-covid-19-cases-at-kepak-in-athleague-back-in-april/#.Xyx6SRNKiCQ

Seamai · 06-08-2020 10:55PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

A cynical grin maybe?

Lovely smile imprinted on the mask I saw, was funny and the wearer was obviously encouraging our own smiles. Probably took two months to get here from WHOA, China!

Or maybe my furrowed brow would convey it.

s1ippy · 06-08-2020 10:55PM

road_high wrote: »

I’m sorry but you people are just mental...catching Covid off processed meats now?
I’ve heard some crazy ****e the past 6 months but this post stands out. I’d hate to be you- this sounds even beyond OCD.
I’d say try not to lick the packaging and you be fine but I doubt it would have much impact

Absolutely, I acknowledged in the post that it's a high level of care to take but it's necessary to protect my family, only marginally more effort and it alleviates the risk completely.

Every time I mention the fact that we clean our shopping or cook foods before we eat them I'm met with disbelief here, your horror at my life is noted. It's not a foodborne virus so it can't multiply in cells that aren't living, but it can stay on packaging and surfaces (like meat) for between three and seven days (though the viability would be reduced in this time) and the chilling process in freezing and refrigerating can actually preserve coronaviruses for much longer (hence why it's really bad that the ice caps are melting, who knows what sh!t that's going to unleash on us in the near future). Here's the study from 2010 about coronaviruses being preserved in cold temperatures:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7113654/

hmmm · 06-08-2020 10:56PM

Seamai wrote: »

I'm feeling quite despondent tonight with the way things are going. Is all the good achieved by the millions of individual sacrifices over the last 5 months coming undone? How would that look on a mask?

The initial sacrifice allowed us get control of it from a point where it was out of control. It's up to all of us now to make sure we don't go back to that point, and that involves personal responsibility and not taking the p**s. We'll be doing this dance until we get a vaccine.

If this had happened a hundred years ago we'd have had a terrible time of it. As it is we know how to control it, and we know that a vaccine will more than likely come in 2021.

ACitizenErased · 06-08-2020 10:56PM

expectationlost wrote: »

so why are they in hospital? what other reason?

Any reason. I have a friend who got an MRI on his back last week and got tested.

Spanish Eyes · 06-08-2020 10:58PM

Our lives seem to have been changed forever more. Some will comply some won't.

I have to admit I am wary, but those younger than me might not care.

Hope for better news tomorrow. Sayonara.

JRant · 06-08-2020 10:59PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Insularity like Greenland and Iceland so. Just joking, but honestly dealing with this is going to be a bit challenge for everyone, economically and every other way too.

But onwards and upwards. Italy seems to be doing ok AFAIS. What's the secret there, given they were one of the worst countries at the beginning. It is all so weird.

Not sure but I do know that the Irish Media and government have a lot to answer for the way every single case is met with the "end is nigh" narrative.

We are doing really well at the moment. Numbers are as low as we could reasonably expect. Sure, some clusters in known problem areas are popping up but they seem to be contained.

Instead of talking about going back phases or "cause of concerns" the government should be clamping down on these facilities. Severe fines and removal of their operating licenses until they can bloody well open up properly.

seanb85 · 06-08-2020 10:59PM

The incidence rate for the entire country in the past 14 days is 9.85/100,000, the incidence rate for Kildare/Offaly/Laois combined is 58.7/100,000

expectationlost · 06-08-2020 10:59PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Any reason. I have a friend who got an MRI on his back last week and got tested.

if he was just getting an MRI he was actually _in_ hospital was he?

anyway if its about testing people in hospital for other reasons it would very weird to describe routine cautionary testing as suspected covid

majcos · 06-08-2020 11:00PM

AdamD wrote: »

Or just higher immunity

Yes. Hopefully that too as inevitably people will relax and become more complacent with the passage of time.

owlbethere · 06-08-2020 11:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Would a dentist with a patient reporting a fever not request a test before treatment?

I didn't have a fever either. Fever is 38. I had a high temperature. It was out of the ordinary for me. Like I check my temperature in the mornings and usually it's
36.6
36.7
36.8
36.9

I checked my temperature one morning last week and it gave me a reading of 37.7. I took it again and in the other ear. The temperature was raised and it was out of the ordinary for me.

I didn't have any other and I had no cold symptoms and I didn't feel unwell. I never would have gone to the dentist if I thought my high temperature was viral related.

ACitizenErased · 06-08-2020 11:01PM

expectationlost wrote: »

if he was just getting an MRI he was actually _in_ hospital was he?

anyway tit would very weird to describe routine cautionary testing as suspected covid

Suspected cases = number of swabs waiting to be handled in hospitals.

JP Liz V1 · 06-08-2020 11:01PM

Timahoe is a trending

majcos · 06-08-2020 11:01PM

Rimmy wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/production-at-brady-s-ham-plant-in-kildare-stops-after-80-staff-test-positive-for-covid-19-1.4324172?fbclid=IwAR0pGxEJZIEiFrgpxJaanaURzZ0TPH-8138WBo1FRpW3NrpaY4skrHI6UUs

80 staff infected there, jaysus. I refuse to return to the office.

I would hope any office is very different to a meat factory.

expectationlost · 06-08-2020 11:03PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Suspected cases = number of swabs waiting to be handled in hospitals.

pah! thats not suspected covid

it only indicates people are more willing to go to hospital

majcos · 06-08-2020 11:03PM

Seamai wrote: »

Possibly, personally I only know 2 people who had COVID-19, a married couple who live 160km from me, no one else. I'm sure plenty don't know anyone who contracted it or if they did it was mild so they may not take it too seriously.

That’s the worry and very much part of human nature to wait until one has been personally affected before taking something seriously.

Spanish Eyes · 06-08-2020 11:04PM

Seamai wrote: »

Or maybe my furrowed brow would convey it.

We all have furrowed brows now and then, but looking at that faux smile on a mask gave me a lift. The person wearing the mask could have been fuming though! But at least she wore a mask.

ACitizenErased · 06-08-2020 11:06PM

expectationlost wrote: »

pah! thats not suspected covid

That's my point yeah, the media go crazy at that figure when it's literally just the number of swabs waiting to be examined.

Atlantic Dawn · 06-08-2020 11:06PM

Rimmy wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/production-at-brady-s-ham-plant-in-kildare-stops-after-80-staff-test-positive-for-covid-19-1.4324172?fbclid=IwAR0pGxEJZIEiFrgpxJaanaURzZ0TPH-8138WBo1FRpW3NrpaY4skrHI6UUs

80 staff infected there, jaysus. I refuse to return to the office.

First positive test a week ago, factory let stay open until today where now 80 confirmed positive, complete joke of a country we are living in.

Results received on 30 July confirmed that the person had tested positive.

The company engaged with the HSE and said it took what it believed was “the most responsible decision to test all employees which was coordinated by the HSE and a private provider to expedite testing.”

Of 243 tests completed, 80 employees have been confirmed as positive for Covid-19.

Of the 80 confirmed, the level of asymptomatic infectivity appears to be very high, the company said.

“We are completing testing of a further 42 employees today,” it said in a statement.

https://www.thejournal.ie/kildare-factory-confirms-80-covid-19-cases-suspends-operations-immediately-5169920-Aug2020/

completedit · 06-08-2020 11:09PM

Does anybody ever wonder how those Bulgarian stawberry pickers are getting on?

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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