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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #7322
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    expectationlost wrote: »
    what are you talking about?
    All over RTE and Virgin Media this morning about suspected cases rising in hospitals. Suspected cases =/= they think they have the virus.


  • #7323
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    landofthetree wrote: »
    So basically a second lockdown is now possible


    Also how can we can get away without a full lockdown from Nov to Feb in the cold damp weather?

    Enjoy the next few weeks because the late autumn and winter will be brutal. It'll be a terrible time.


  • #7324
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Enjoy the next few weeks because the late autumn and winter will be brutal. It'll be a terrible time.
    In what sense? Social distancing and masks will be just as effective against flu so I don't see much changing from the way we're dealing with it right now.


  • #7325
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    VinLieger wrote: »
    People in Laois from my observstion were not taking this seriously last Friday, wonder if their attitudes have changed yet?

    Ive been in Laois dozens of time since the lockdown ended...wouldn’t think it any different to anywhere else tbh


  • #7326
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    And I see that being the case for years, Ireland will only be as good at controlling it as the countries around us which in turn will only be as good as the countries around them :(

    Insularity like Greenland and Iceland so. Just joking, but honestly dealing with this is going to be a bit challenge for everyone, economically and every other way too.

    But onwards and upwards. Italy seems to be doing ok AFAIS. What's the secret there, given they were one of the worst countries at the beginning. It is all so weird.


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  • #7327
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Whatever way you look at it, this virus is going nowhere is it.

    VFI may as well just shut down now


  • #7328
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    In what sense? Social distancing and masks will be just as effective against flu so I don't see much changing from the way we're dealing with it right now.

    Let's see.


  • #7329
    completedit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    My thoughts are that there may be some inside scoop, one that hasn't come to public knowledge, that this virus may have potential very serious long term implications, even for those who are asymptomatic. It's the only thing that makes sense given the demographic and relatively low numbers of deaths that have occurred.


  • #7330
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Enjoy the next few weeks because the late autumn and winter will be brutal. It'll be a terrible time.

    Ah will ya stop with the apocalypse ****e. You’ll end up in the looney bin if you lose your head every time there’s spikes and clusters of cases.
    This is the way for the foreseeable future


  • #7331
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    completedit wrote: »
    My thoughts are that there may be some inside scoop, one that hasn't come to public knowledge, that this virus may have potential very serious long term implications, even for those who are asymptomatic.

    Do you think the virus is hiding something from us?


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  • #7332
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 676 ✭ [Deleted User]


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Enjoy the next few weeks because the late autumn and winter will be brutal. It'll be a terrible time.
    More scaremongering crap. Too much of this sh!t going on in this country


  • #7333
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,368 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Insularity like Greenland and Iceland so. Just joking, but honestly dealing with this is going to be a bit challenge for everyone, economically and every other way too.

    But onwards and upwards. Italy seems to be doing ok AFAIS. What's the secret there, given they were one of the worst countries at the beginning. It is all so weird.


    Yes Italy is the big surprise, it was at one stage worst hit, if you were told it would be on a green list of countries to visit in July from this country people would think you were mad.


  • #7334
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Might be a bit easier to see the numbers on a map
    522331.jpg


  • #7335
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    gmisk wrote: »
    A temperature (which isn't that high tbh) with zero other symptoms you wouldn't get tested even I would think, unless the threshold has changed drastically?
    You knew you had a toothache so it was a pretty good assumption to make.

    It's not really just to get tested though. The NHS in the UK recommended people to self isolate if they get a temperature of 37.8.

    I actually didn't have a toothache. There was something else that wasn't quite right. The high temperature wasn't right for me and I felt it was maybe connected to my gob. I felt silly phoning the dentist because I had nothing concrete like a pain but sure enough an abscess was found.


  • #7336
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,166 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Enjoy the next few weeks because the late autumn and winter will be brutal. It'll be a terrible time.

    Jesus Christ that's me out. And no I'm not sticking my head in the sand or sugarcoating anything but I can't be reading ****ing apocalyptic stuff.


  • #7337
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    In what sense? Social distancing and masks will be just as effective against flu so I don't see much changing from the way we're dealing with it right now.

    Few opportunities to get out and have a walk when it is dark at 4pm. It's bearable now.

    Centrally heated homes, few windows open. Kids coming home home from school full of bugs.

    And so on.

    I suppose the trade off will be be fewer social interractions, but we are used to that now anyway.


  • #7338
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,368 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    There's a lot of questions to be asked about the true price of cheap meat, looks like pure human exploitation.


  • #7339
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭ [Deleted User]


    completedit wrote: »
    My thoughts are that there may be some inside scoop, one that hasn't come to public knowledge, that this virus may have potential very serious long term implications, even for those who are asymptomatic. It's the only thing that makes sense given the demographic and relatively low numbers of deaths that have occurred.

    It makes far more sense that the low number of deaths in certain demographics are due to the immune system killing the virus in those in relative good health, and the a symptomatic cases are due to a latent resistance within some people.


  • #7340
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    s1ippy wrote: »
    It's totally up to you but I wouldn't risk it. Unless the raw meat is at a sustained heat for 20 minutes to kill viral and bacterial microbes (and not contaminated afterwards), there is a risk of transfer. As always with meat, you need to be assuming the raw stuff is always contaminated and disinfecting and cleaning meticulously when you're handling it, now more than ever. Personally deli meat strikes me as the most obvious potential source of contamination in a kitchen. I'm unsure about dairy products as well, not being knowledgeable about the processes in that industry... been taking off the top layers of cheese for toasties, disposing of packaging and sticking it in a different container. Probably a lot of people think that the level of caution there is mental but it's just what we're comfortable with and it's no harm using good food storage and hygiene even in your own home, and putting thought into how to handle and keep food, even without a virus.

    Weekly or fortnightly (depending on the amount of sandwiches, carbonara or pizzas we make in the week), we buy a hock of ham instead, soak it in water overnight (my granny's trick to draw out the salt) and then boil it the next day, changing the water halfway through. When it's fully cooled, you can cut it into thin slices, put them in airtight containers and stick em in the freezer or fridge, just take em out of the freezer the day before the fridge stuff is due to run out. It's way cheaper than buying that slimy deli ham anyway.

    Don't tell too many people that though or there'll be a ham shortage and that would be an atrocity. Although I think most people are absolutely staunchly convinced that there is zero risk from food or shopping anymore, contrary to every logical and scientific indication - there'll probably be no changing people's minds on it, and I'm fine with that too. :D

    I’m sorry but you people are just mental...catching Covid off processed meats now?
    I’ve heard some crazy ****e the past 6 months but this post stands out. I’d hate to be you- this sounds even beyond OCD.
    I’d say try not to lick the packaging and you be fine but I doubt it would have much impact


  • #7341
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Insularity like Greenland and Iceland so. Just joking, but honestly dealing with this is going to be a bit challenge for everyone, economically and every other way too.

    But onwards and upwards. Italy seems to be doing ok AFAIS. What's the secret there, given they were one of the worst countries at the beginning. It is all so weird.

    Very hard to make sense of. Unless harder hit countries have a higher level of immunity than others? New York is doing well now after being hit hard, same with Lombardy. They’re of course still seeing cases but it’s not spreading as fast as before. I know in the UK a huge amount caught it in hospital when in for other procedures early on, maybe now that so many healthcare workers have been infected they’re no longer “vectors” so spread is less? All guess work.


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  • #7342
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    completedit wrote: »
    My thoughts are that there may be some inside scoop, one that hasn't come to public knowledge, that this virus may have potential very serious long term implications, even for those who are asymptomatic. It's the only thing that makes sense given the demographic and relatively low numbers of deaths that have occurred.

    Surely any research team with knowledge like that would quickly publish to a scientific journal.


  • #7343
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Yes Italy is the big surprise, it was at one stage worst hit, if you were told it would be on a green list of countries to visit in July from this country people would think you were mad.

    Cannot figure it out myself regarding Italy TBH. But am very happy for them after all they have suffered.


  • #7344
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    It's not really just to get tested though. The NHS in the UK recommended people to self isolate if they get a temperature of 37.8.

    I actually didn't have a toothache. There was something else that wasn't quite right. The high temperature wasn't right for me and I felt it was maybe connected to my gob. I felt silly phoning the dentist because I had nothing concrete like a pain but sure enough an abscess was found.

    Would a dentist with a patient reporting a fever not request a test before treatment?


  • #7345
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    It's true. I know a fella who worked in the meat factory in Fermoy, Cork that had an outbreak and most of the foreign workers were taking paracetemol.

    If this is the case, income needs to be guaranteed in these places as a deterrent.


  • #7346
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    There's a lot of questions to be asked about the true price of cheap meat, looks like pure human exploitation.

    There’s no one forcing anyone to buy it..consumers go mad for cheap food- guaranteed if you cut the price in half tomorrow the supermarkets would be thronged.


  • #7347
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    I had a laugh today, saw some young wan with a mask that had a pseudo smile on it. Was amazing really and looked gas.

    We need masks to match our mood or the time of day etc. Make them fun.

    Well OK, I'll get back in me box.

    I'm feeling quite despondent tonight with the way things are going. Is all the good achieved by the millions of individual sacrifices over the last 5 months coming undone? How would that look on a mask?


  • #7348
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Yes Italy is the big surprise, it was at one stage worst hit, if you were told it would be on a green list of countries to visit in July from this country people would think you were mad.

    They didn't **** around with quarantine or masks from the start.
    Massive fines work.
    Job done.


  • #7349
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Seamai wrote: »
    I'm feeling quite despondent tonight with the way things are going. Is all the good achieved by the millions of individual sacrifices over the last 5 months coming undone? How would that look on a mask?

    Unless you lockdown forever this was inevitable. All we can do is try manage cases to a manageable level with local measures


  • #7350
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    There's a lot of questions to be asked about the true price of cheap meat, looks like pure human exploitation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y756hWJOA78


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  • #7351
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    They didn't **** around with quarantine or masks from the start.
    Massive fines work.
    Job done.

    Indeed, money talks.


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