Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

stephenjmcd · 06-08-2020 05:22PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Really? Would it mean something if it were one of your family members?

The numbers actually represent people.
You do know that don’t you?

Of course they represent people the point he's making is they aren't all covid paitents. For HSE reporting while awaiting test results they're suspected until the result comes back.

For example family member who is an ICU nurse in James's and I've said this before on here.
5 paitents there last night awaiting results, she said they have question marks over 1 patient. The other 4 are in ICU with other issues but need to be tested anyway when entering ICU and will be tested again at regular intervals.

But when the numbers get sent to the HSE at 6.30pm if you don't have the swab result back from the hosptial lab they have to assign it as a suspected case.

ACitizenErased · 06-08-2020 05:22PM

Speaking of meat factories, how many more clusters in those settings will it take for drastic action?

GooglePlus · 06-08-2020 05:22PM

MOR316 wrote: »

This mindset challenges people who are worried.

It is why you are being questioned as to why you aren't worrying and demanding to know how many cases it'll take to make you worried.

People don't being challenged

I don't think it's that, I think it's just a matter of wanting to know what's ahead.

Some people see a stagnation of numbers that are totally manageable and that will allow us to continue on as we are.

Some, including myself, feel that the increase we are seeing may lead to a situation where cases continue to increase upward. I don't necessarily see a lockdown coming, I think economy rules this time around, but I do think we're seeing the start of something.

JP Liz V1 · 06-08-2020 05:23PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Sharp increase in suspected Covid-19 cases in ICU in 24 hours

https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-ireland-10-5169487-Aug2020/

What's the current ICU number for ROI?

blowitupref · 06-08-2020 05:23PM

The department of health press briefing is set for 6:30pm tonight.

blowitupref · 06-08-2020 05:24PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What's the current ICU number for ROI?

5 people.

GooglePlus · 06-08-2020 05:24PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

Rumours of 100+ tonight infected from a meat factory. Where do these stories start from?

Big Lettuce leaking false news.

What Username Guidelines · 06-08-2020 05:25PM

Gruffalox wrote: »

It is good to be calm and stoic, and especially to start being that when young. But at your age you can also never say there will never be a reason to be worried in your life. A very sick child will batter the best defenses against worry for example. And for other people, they are worried about the pandemic, it is just personalities. I am not worried per se right now. Hospital admissions are low, severity of illness is not manifesting in great numbers, we have great systems in place. But as a kind of general vibe 2020 has undeniably not been a really groovy year so far.

I felt this post in my bones. Late teens, early twenties, not a bother on me. Anxiety crept in after having a kid, she got sick and I'm a worrying mess since. Doing my best to try not to worry but it manifests itself in obsession, so trawling news and internet about covid, which obviously does nothing good for the all mental health.

Although that journal article focusing on suspect cases after actual cases dropped has done a lot for me realising the media have a hell of a lot to answer for in this whole thing and their responsibility to report consistently.

Itssoeasy · 06-08-2020 05:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Speaking of meat factories, how many more clusters in those settings will it take for drastic action?

I hope the hse are going around to them all and making sure they aren't in danger of making whatever mistakes the one in Kildare made.

Widdensushi · 06-08-2020 05:26PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Speaking of meat factories, how many more clusters in those settings will it take for drastic action?

Probably be one of the safer places to work soon, Alot of staff will have immunity

Seamai · 06-08-2020 05:26PM

blowitupref wrote: »

The department of health press briefing is set for 6:30pm tonight.

The timing seems to have become a lot more eratic since Ronan Glynn too over.

spookwoman · 06-08-2020 05:26PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What's the current ICU number for ROI?

Critical Care Summary as at 05/08/2020 18:30
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-daily-operations-update-2000-5-august-2020.pdf
6 confirmed in critical care units
14 supected
1 confirmed ventilated
2 suspected

What Username Guidelines · 06-08-2020 05:26PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Speaking of meat factories, how many more clusters in those settings will it take for drastic action?

How many more unaffected meat factories do we even have? :pac:

froog · 06-08-2020 05:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Which they haven't so far. Until I see it, I'm not worried.

I'm not sure why it's so difficult for some to realise that this is the world we now live in. Life isn't going to go back to normal. We need to get on with it, adapt and overcome.

we need to keep our ICU beds from overflowing.

stephenjmcd · 06-08-2020 05:28PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What's the current ICU number for ROI?

5 as of 11am

MOR316 · 06-08-2020 05:28PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Probably be one of the safer places to work soon, Alot of staff will have immunity

Herd immunity in a meat factory...I can see the headlines :rolleyes:

thelad95 · 06-08-2020 05:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Speaking of meat factories, how many more clusters in those settings will it take for drastic action?

I've said it a few times on this thread that clusters keep popping up in the same places over and over again and yet the media silence is deafening.

There should be uproar over the sheer volume of cases that have originated from that factory in Kildare.

It would nearly make you wonder that it's because it's low paid working class people mixed with refugees and Eastern Europeans that the media doesn't care.....

Itssoeasy · 06-08-2020 05:29PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

How many more unaffected meat factories do we even have? :pac:

In a previous life as they say when I worked in a food micro lab you'd be surprised how many there are and how Regular even the equipment is swabbed and tested along with the stuff they produce.

fr336 · 06-08-2020 05:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've never been a worrier, never will be, don't see any reason to change right now. Worry is a defense mechanism for feeling helpless.
The fact of the matter is this is a personal responsibility, it is the world we now live in, we need to do what we are told in terms of hygiene, distancing, masks etc and get on with life.

I don't want to be patronising but I wasn't a worrier at the age of 20 either, it's very very rare a 20 year old would be. At that age experiences are still coming your way all the time and you can make mistakes. As you age you worry more about losing things and people important to you.

MOR316 · 06-08-2020 05:29PM

froog wrote: »

we need to keep our ICU beds from overflowing.

Make sure they're not waterbeds so and we're golden

Assetbacked · 06-08-2020 05:30PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

Rumours of 100+ tonight infected from a meat factory. Where do these stories start from?

Meat eaters, the cause of the crisis and reason for its persistence in Ireland.

stephenjmcd · 06-08-2020 05:31PM

thelad95 wrote: »

I've said it a few times on this thread that clusters keep popping up in the same places over and over again and yet the media silence is deafening.

There should be uproar over the sheer volume of cases that have originated from that factory in Kildare.

It would nearly make you wonder that it's because it's low paid working class people mixed with refugees and Eastern Europeans that the media doesn't care.....

HSA need to get the finger out too.

It was asked in the Dáil a few weeks ago how many unannounced inspections of meat plants had been done. The answer was 0 but that they'd been doing pre announced inspections.

Sure what good is that, get everything up to scratch and tell everyone to be on best behaviour for 1 day only

MOR316 · 06-08-2020 05:32PM

fr336 wrote: »

I don't want to be patronising but I wasn't a worrier at the age of 20 either, it's very very rare a 20 year old would be. At that age experiences are still coming your way all the time and you can make mistakes. As you age you worry more about losing things and people important to you.

Opposite for me.

Guess we have led different lives and had different experiences with "people important" to us

JP Liz V1 · 06-08-2020 05:34PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

How many more unaffected meat factories do we even have? :pac:

Dennys, Bradys, O' Herlihys, Galtee, Clonakilty Black Pudding and Stauntons

fr336 · 06-08-2020 05:36PM

polesheep wrote: »

I have no weird agenda and no need to big myself up. You were happy to complain about others trying to get on with their life, even complaining about joggers at one stage. But you just go right ahead and be two-faced when it suits you. Of course, that's assuming everything you wrote about your upcoming trip is true. I'm still looking forward to your biography.

He was probably complaining about the clowns who were never responsible and will never be responsible. Unlike most of us that poster really has made sacrifices over the past few months and I see nothing at all two faced about him wanting to do a low risk activity long after lockdown has ended. You sound very bitter, it's not good.

fr336 · 06-08-2020 05:37PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Opposite for me.

Guess we have led different lives and had different experiences with "people important" to us

So you were a worrier during your teens and early 20s? Sorry to hear that.

Assetbacked · 06-08-2020 05:38PM

Pandemic II; Thrive Harder

https://www.ft.com/content/dc33f21b-740f-4be8-9947-b47439f557d2

I think the FT's covid coverage is free, apologies if not.

Headline "The next virus pandemic is not far away

Scientists say new diseases will jump from animals unless humans change the way they live".

Gist of article;

Scientists blame the increase in the spillover of pathogens from animals on two trends: rapid globalisation and humanity’s cavalier interaction with nature.

Ms Gayle said the US needed to create “good [disease] surveillance systems” while acquiring the ability to develop vaccines with speed and precision.

He also recommended spending hundreds of millions of dollars on systems to detect and control disease outbreaks, including a “library of virus genetics” that could be used to pinpoint emerging pathogens quickly enough to stop their spread.

The suggested sums are vast. But, Mr Bernstein noted, they are a fraction of the economic and human costs of Covid-19, which economists have predicted could reach $10tn-$20tn — up to a quarter of the $81tn global gross domestic product.

thelad95 · 06-08-2020 05:38PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSA need to get the finger out too.

It was asked in the Dáil a few weeks ago how many unannounced inspections of meat plants had been done. The answer was 0 but that they'd been doing pre announced inspections.

Sure what good is that, get everything up to scratch and tell everyone to be on best behaviour for 1 day only

Pre announced inspections are the most Irish thing ever. Essentially saying "we know you don't have things at the required standard, but we're obliged to inspect you, we'll come on this date, that way we've ticked our boxes and you won't hear from us again for X time, wink wink nudge nudge"

Renjit · 06-08-2020 05:42PM

fr336 wrote: »

So you were a worrier during your teens and early 20s? Sorry to hear that.

Childhood incidents can be long lasting impact. Many other factors like supporting parents etc.

But for one, I feel the responsibilities have increased now. As a teenager I had less to worry about. The more you know, the more you get overwhelmed. Some of the happiest people are like Trump. Ignorance can be bliss

Arghus · 06-08-2020 05:45PM

fr336 wrote: »

So you were a worrier during your teens and early 20s? Sorry to hear that.

I'd say I've been a worrier since as long as I could form a conscious thought.

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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