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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #6632
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Hahaha :D I think you should go, tell him first to go fcuk himself, and then that this is not a village where we all go round with our c0cks hanging out.


    Extra points if he mentions the term, "Scotch Egg"


  • #6633
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Extra points if he mentions the term, "Scotch Egg"

    I don't get that, but I will thank it in case I should :)


  • #6634
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    43 new cases in Northern Ireland today, big increase
    Was meant to be a cluster outbreak Newcastle/Castlewellan area.


  • #6635
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Boggles wrote: »
    Is there a press conference tonight?

    Can't wait for Prof Nolan and his charts telling us the R nought value is 127.

    Quietly followed by the explanation that R nought value is utterly useless at these levels.

    I would just love if a journalist shouted at him during it.

    "Then why the fúck do you insist on bringing it up Philip?"


    I've switched off to be honest.
    Why don't they tell us how many cases are related to a cluster?
    A cluster always starts at 1.
    Then each subsequent evening they say it's not community transmission it's linked to a cluster.

    Getting it from a cluster before it's a cluster makes no difference.
    It would be nice to understand the impact one cluster can have and
    if it's worth closing off a town once it's discovered to curtail spread.
    The number of coronavirus cases linked to an outbreak in Aberdeen has increased to 79 - with more expected in the coming days.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53672793

    The meath GAA case in question is related to someone getting it in work.
    So they then start another cluster potentially (v unlikely if outdoors etc)
    The player is believed to have played for the club in a Meath championship match against Duleek/Bellewstown at the weekend.

    According to the Meath Chronicle, the player had no symptoms and was tested after a work colleague contracted the virus.


    https://www.thesun.ie/sport/gaa-football/5749762/meath-gaa-ballinabrackey-coronavirus-covid-ireland/

    Anyway rant over.


  • #6636
    redmgar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭redmgar


    If numbers hit over 100 would people admit that it's increasing at a worrying rate?


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  • #6637
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    redmgar wrote: »
    If numbers hit over 100 would people admit that it's increasing at a worrying rate?

    If the majority are outbreak related no, it’s entirely expected.
    It community transmission increases, yes.


  • #6638
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    redmgar wrote: »
    If numbers hit over 100 would people admit that it's increasing at a worrying rate?

    Well considering we don't have that much more in place to prevent growth, I would be.

    As containable as we think it might be, we'll always have a few people escape and it doesn't take a whole lot to spread this contagious c*nt of a thing.


  • #6639
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    I don't get that, but I will thank it in case I should :)

    He reminds me of a scotch egg


  • #6640
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    MOR316 wrote: »
    I've got a throat issue. Nasal drip. I clear my throat like any normal person does every once in a while. I also may cough once every few hours

    Are you seriously telling me that someone like me, with an issue like that, has to tell someone in a Cafe/Bar/Restaurant my personal business, that has nothing to do with the current pandemic, in order to put your mind at ease?

    Well I don't think it's just me TBH, I clear my throat a lot because of reflux issues but this guy clearly had a cold, sniffing every 5 to 10 seconds with a phlegmy cough which he was directing into his hand, big difference to you or I clearing our throats or giving the odd sniffle. I think most people wouldn't be comfortable around this situation at the moment.
    In the last 15 minutes I've spoken to the owner my first complaint was that I think the tables were too close. If I feel compromised in place I'm unlikely to return.


  • #6641
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    If the majority are outbreak related no, it’s entirely expected.
    It community transmission increases, yes.

    How many "clusters" would it take for you to admit the increase is worrying?


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  • #6642
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    redmgar wrote: »
    If numbers hit over 100 would people admit that it's increasing at a worrying rate?
    Was it not mentioned at a press conference last month that if the numbers were to go over 100 a day for a number of days then regional lock downs would be looked at 100 day would be a sign we were heading for trouble.


  • #6643
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭ [Deleted User]


    redmgar wrote: »
    If numbers hit over 100 would people admit that it's increasing at a worrying rate?

    If we see the associated increase in hospitalisations. We could easily live with a couple of hundred cases a day if hospital admissions rates remain where they have been for the last month or so.

    We went from a 7 day average of 10 to 50 in 5 weeks. In March we did that in 5 days.


  • #6644
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    harr wrote: »
    Was it not mentioned at a press conference last month that if the numbers were to go over 100 a day for a number of days then regional lock downs would be looked at 100 day would be a sign we were heading for trouble.
    I think that was just an answer to a question rather than a proposal. Mostly, they've stated it's a national policy.


  • #6645
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Seamai wrote: »
    Well I don't think it's just me TBH, I clear my throat a lot because of reflux issues but this guy clearly had a cold, sniffing every 10 seconds with a phlegmy cough which he was directing into his hand, big difference to you or I clearing our throats or giving the odd sniffle. I think people wouldn't be comfortable around this situation at the moment.
    In the last 15 minutes I've spoken to the owner my first complaint was that I think the tables were too close. If I feel compromised in place I'm unlikely to return.

    He shouldn’t be coughing into his hand like ffs how many ads and times has that been discussed. He could have gone to the loo and blown his nose. It’s gross, some people have no manners or Hygiene etiquette. I’d have gotten up and moved. Nasal drip, hay fever, cold whatever I’m not taking chances like that now especially if sitting on top of me.


  • #6646
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Seamai wrote: »
    Well I don't think it's just me TBH, I clear my throat a lot because of reflux issues but this guy clearly had a cold, sniffing every 10 seconds with a phlegmy cough which he was directing into his hand, big difference to you or I clearing our throats or giving the odd sniffle. I think most people wouldn't be comfortable around this situation at the moment.
    In the last 15 minutes I've spoken to the owner my first complaint was that I think the tables were too close. If I feel compromised in place I'm unlikely to return.
    There were a lot of media campaigns telling people to report businesses that aren't complying to the HSA but I can find sweet f all about them now. The FSAI are a really good organisation though, be no harm if they had an inspection from them. The complaints form is here: https://www.fsai.ie/make_a_complaint.html

    I got food poisoning last year, no satisfaction from the business ("you probably got the end of the portion" was what they told me, don't know what that means but it sounds absolutely mank) and when I wrote to the FSAI they called me back within the day and two days later the restaurant was inspected. They even called to follow up.

    So that might be an avenue to explore.


  • #6647
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    froog wrote: »
    How many "clusters" would it take for you to admit the increase is worrying?

    Why are you looking for cases to go up, for a person you don't know on the Internet, to get worried?


  • #6648
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,557 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    harr wrote: »
    Was it not mentioned at a press conference last month that if the numbers were to go over 100 a day for a number of days then regional lock downs would be looked at 100 day would be a sign we were heading for trouble.

    One of them said 20 instances out of 100,000 you'd be looking at bringing in national restrictions.

    There was some edgelord journalist last week reeling off false numbers from other countries.

    Glynn answered in shock at one stage, "if that was us you'd be looking at 500+ cases a week."

    But to answer your question, 1000 - 1300 cases a week with exponential growth in clusters and increasing community transmission would probably see national restrictions, they seemed to poor cold water on regional restriction a few weeks ago.

    All IMHO.


  • #6649
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    s1ippy wrote: »
    The berating will continue until morale improves :D

    Thanks for all the replies. I'm going to just go and say I didn't; my partner will cover for me. I badly need to just get out of town. Even having just made that decision, my outlook is so much better. I was just so looking forward to it and it's as close as I can think of to a "no-risk" situation. If there is any level of risk, I'm free to just leave so that makes it virtually no risk (unless I've misjudged the people I'm going with and they're chasing me around coughing at me or something).

    As for polesheep's nasty "comeuppance for telling others what to do" message, the difference in my situation is that I'm still in the mindset of protecting others. Advising people to wear masks to protect others shouldn't mean that somebody has ill-fated consequences, but it really says a lot about you that you'd kick somebody when they're down like that, seemingly to big yourself and your weird agenda up.

    I'm heading on Friday evening after dropping a relative to an appointment. Haha I hope they don't need to put anything in the boot because then the jig will be up. I'll post pictures of the camp on Monday. :D

    There are some people just milking the situation to have everything done for them. Have seen it myself and these people are not one bit worried about you and only what they can get out of it. Some pharmacies are still doing deliveries so might be an idea to see if the one you get their meds from is doing it. The doc emails the prescriptions to the chemist so don't even need to go to them.

    Enjoy your break and take care.


  • #6650
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Spanish figures are pretty sobering. Seems everywhere getting new outbreaks.

    https://murciatoday.com/1772-new-covid-positives-in-spain-on-wednesday-and-2953-in-last-24-hours_1484864-a.html??region=7#bottom_navigate

    The Region of Madrid registered the only death from Covid reported today
    but the new infections of Covid-19 have shot up to 539 cases in the last 24 hours
    in the region, with four new outbreaks.
    In the last seven days the region has recorded a total of 2,685 positive cases.

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  • #6651
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    pc7 wrote: »
    He shouldn’t be coughing into his hand like ffs how many ads and times has that been discussed. He could have gone to the loo and blown his nose. It’s gross, some people have no manners or Hygiene etiquette. I’d have gotten up and moved. Nasal drip, hay fever, cold whatever I’m not taking chances like that now especially if sitting on top of me.

    No he shouldn't have, we've all had coughing and sneezing etiquette drilled into us over the last 6 months, to add insult to injury he handed his debit card to the waitress to pay, didn't tap himself. WTF! It's the first time I've been in a situation like this and you're right, I should have walked out.


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  • #6652
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    froog wrote: »
    How many "clusters" would it take for you to admit the increase is worrying?
    Community transmission and hospital increases are the only thing worth worrying about. This is the new normal, people should realise that and get used to it.


  • #6653
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Seamai wrote: »
    No he shouldn't have, we've all had coughing and sneezing etiquette drilled into us over the last 6 months, to add insult to injury he handed his debit card to the waitress to pay, didn't tap himself. WTF! It's the first time I've been in a situation like this and you're right, I should have walked out.

    That's the only course of action to take alright - look after yourself. If you don't feel comfortable, leave. Letting the premises operator know why you are leaving, would be an option but it's not as essential as keeping yourself safe.


  • #6654
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Community transmission and hospital increases are the only thing worth worrying about. This is the new normal, people should realise that and get used to it.

    You realise clusters can easily lead to those two things?


  • #6655
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    froog wrote: »
    You realise clusters can easily lead to those two things?
    Which they haven't so far. Until I see it, I'm not worried.


    I'm not sure why it's so difficult for some to realise that this is the world we now live in. Life isn't going to go back to normal. We need to get on with it, adapt and overcome.


  • #6656
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    House of Commons home affairs committee recommending to investigate testing in airports. Hope we do the same before wave 2 is ashore.

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  • #6657
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Sharp increase in suspected Covid-19 cases in ICU in 24 hours
    Sharp increase in suspected Covid-19 cases in ICU in 24 hours

    HERE HAS BEEN an increase of six further people being treated in ICU units for suspected Covid-19 over the past 24 hours.
    In its daily operations update, the HSE says that 14 people were in critical care units with suspected Covid-19 ast of 6.30pm last night, up from eight the previous day.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-ireland-10-5169487-Aug2020/


  • #6658
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Which they haven't so far. Until I see it, I'm not worried.


    I'm not sure why it's so difficult for some to realise that this is the world we now live in. Life isn't going to go back to normal. We need to get on with it, adapt and overcome.

    I don't think anyone is that worried about how the situation currently, its the patterns that are emerging. This virus doesn't just simmer at current levels. in 6 weeks the situation could be much different. Eastern Europe is suffering from an even worse 2nd wave atm, hopefully we can avoid that. I think most people are adhering to the new normal. Lets hope its enough until we learn more on the best way to contain the virus


  • #6659
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    HERE HAS BEEN an increase of six further people being treated in ICU units for suspected Covid-19 over the past 24 hours.
    In its daily operations update, the HSE says that 14 people were in critical care units with suspected Covid-19 ast of 6.30pm last night, up from eight the previous day.


    https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-ireland-10-5169487-Aug2020/
    This means literally nothing


  • #6660
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    wadacrack wrote: »
    I don't think anyone is that worried about how the situation currently, its the patterns that are emerging. This virus doesn't just simmer at current levels. in 6 weeks the situation could be much different. Eastern Europe is suffering from an even worse 2nd wave atm, hopefully we can avoid that. I think most people are adhering to the new normal. Lets hope its enough until we learn more on the best way to contain the virus
    I believe it's not my responsibility to worry tbh. I've done everything I can over the past few months to protect myself, my family and my friends, and have no reason to change the way I'm acting right now as it has worked all along. Me worrying is going to have zero impact on how Ireland does.


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  • #6661
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Always_Running wrote: »
    In regards to hospital numbers and focusing on the drop of 17 confirmed cases to 9 last night we have journalists running with the suspected cases and talking about significant increase. They clearly feed off fear mongering.

    Today we could go a full week without a reported death, how many news outlets will run with that headline though?

    I was thinking about those 'suspected cases' and admissions that drop off the very next day.

    Now I'm completely guessing here - but nonetheless nearly prepared to put the house on it.

    Hospitals obviously get money for all things COVID - tests, positive test, admissions with suspected, admissions with confirmed, admissions into ICU etc. As in they get x amount of € for each of those and then per day etc.

    I'm fairly sure they're 'playing it safe' on many a patient given that there is an actual financial incentive to find 'suspected' and have someone in ICU over night 'just in case' and all that. We all know how it works. No?


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