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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #6602
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    Changed the layout of the hub too.
    yeah much better


  • #6603
    quartz1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭quartz1


    s1ippy wrote: »
    I know this is a crazy place to ask for advice but I can't really bring this to my family because it's personal, so any insight appreciated.

    Basically I'm in the depths of depression (like a lot of other people). I haven't left the house in five months except to care for my high-risk relatives. I didn't get to do anything I enjoy during my annual leave because it was crap weather for the whole time so I didn't get out to the garden much. My life is just work to earn money, work for my family, sleep. At the weekends it's more family demands and fall into bed exhausted and mostly just want to die.

    So this weekend a friend of mine suggested I go camping with a small group and I jumped at the invitation. It's perfect, outdoors with my own personal accommodation and loads of space to distance out. I can retreat to my space or even leave entirely if I decide that it's not safe and I need to.

    I mentioned it to my relative, thinking they'd be happy that I have something fun to look forward to, jaysis I was majorly wrong. They seem determined to prevent me from going now and they're badgering me relentlessly since I told them.

    I'm a fairly hurt because they're happy enough for me to go and wait in a pharmacy to get their medication but they seem fairly incensed by the idea of me taking some time to relax myself in what I would regard as an extremely low-risk situation. I'm probably not going to go now, not because of any risk but just because I won't enjoy it knowing that I'll get berated for my actions next week.

    It's a quite mad situation that I never envisaged myself in and it's kind of put how pathetic my life is in perspective.

    Your obviously a good kind human being but you must also look after yourself. I know it's difficult but you really should go and enjoy yourself. Your first responsibility is to yourself and that's not been selfish . ....it will be better for both your family and yourself in the long run if you enjoy some well deserved rest.


  • #6604
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's growing
    With 1300 additional tests compared to yesterday, the positivity rate is the exact same


  • #6605
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,548 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Benimar wrote: »
    73 positive swabs today. Obviously may not mean 73 additional cases.

    Could be more.

    There was relatively very little swab testing done over the bank holiday.

    Seems like a lot more people are coming forward based on yesterdays testing number.


  • #6606
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Benimar wrote: »
    73 positive swabs today. Obviously may not mean 73 additional cases.

    I hope you're right


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  • #6607
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    It's not a GAA only thing

    Cork County Cricket Club and Cork Harlequins were shut down with suspected cases

    Waterford United the same

    This bloody thing will affect all sports

    Yeah and you dont see constant posts about it, but as soon as someone who plays GAA even goes for a test its nationwide news


  • #6608
    the deftone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭the deftone


    s1ippy wrote: »
    I know this is a crazy place to ask for advice but I can't really bring this to my family because it's personal, so any insight appreciated.

    Basically I'm in the depths of depression (like a lot of other people). I haven't left the house in five months except to care for my high-risk relatives. I didn't get to do anything I enjoy during my annual leave because it was crap weather for the whole time so I didn't get out to the garden much. My life is just work to earn money, work for my family, sleep. At the weekends it's more family demands and fall into bed exhausted and mostly just want to die.

    So this weekend a friend of mine suggested I go camping with a small group and I jumped at the invitation. It's perfect, outdoors with my own personal accommodation and loads of space to distance out. I can retreat to my space or even leave entirely if I decide that it's not safe and I need to.

    I mentioned it to my relative, thinking they'd be happy that I have something fun to look forward to, jaysis I was majorly wrong. They seem determined to prevent me from going now and they're badgering me relentlessly since I told them.

    I'm a fairly hurt because they're happy enough for me to go and wait in a pharmacy to get their medication but they seem fairly incensed by the idea of me taking some time to relax myself in what I would regard as an extremely low-risk situation. I'm probably not going to go now, not because of any risk but just because I won't enjoy it knowing that I'll get berated for my actions next week.

    It's a quite mad situation that I never envisaged myself in and it's kind of put how pathetic my life is in perspective.


    You don't have to set yourself on fire to keep other people warm.


  • #6609
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    s1ippy wrote: »
    The berating will continue until morale improves :D

    Thanks for all the replies. I'm going to just go and say I didn't; my partner will cover for me. I badly need to just get out of town. Even having just made that decision, my outlook is so much better. I was just so looking forward to it and it's as close as I can think of to a "no-risk" situation. If there is any level of risk, I'm free to just leave so that makes it virtually no risk (unless I've misjudged the people I'm going with and they're chasing me around coughing at me or something).

    As for polesheep's nasty "comeuppance for telling others what to do" message, the difference in my situation is that I'm still in the mindset of protecting others. Advising people to wear masks to protect others shouldn't mean that somebody has ill-fated consequences, but it really says a lot about you that you'd kick somebody when they're down like that, seemingly to big yourself and your weird agenda up.

    I'm heading on Friday evening after dropping a relative to an appointment. Haha I hope they don't need to put anything in the boot because then the jig will be up. I'll post pictures of the camp on Monday. :D

    Have a great time!! Sounds like you need it.
    Hope the weather gods smile on you!


  • #6610
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Benimar wrote: »
    73 positive swabs today. Obviously may not mean 73 additional cases.

    How would it not?


  • #6611
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    An prison is like a island in that there is a 'choke point' at the main gate in a prison, where you can monitor or stop entry or exit.

    An island has several more 'choke points' at seaports and airports, but the principle is the same.

    We don't need to look to islands in the Pacific or other exotic destinations to learn how to keep the virus out. The Irish Prison Service did it very successfully here, with temperature monitoring, masking and strict isolation where necessary.

    North and south co-operated to keep the Foot and Mouth virus suppressed on this island in 2001, when the ultra Unionist/Loyalist Dr. Ian Paisley was in charge up there.

    If co-operation was possible then, when livestock health was in danger, why not now ?

    Remember the F&M virus could spread 2 to 3 km on the wind, not the puny distances of Covid spread.

    It's possible.


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  • #6612
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Gael23 wrote: »
    How would it not?
    People get tested more than once. Positive tests is almost always greater than confirmed cases. EG: We've had over 29,000 positive tests


  • #6613
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭ [Deleted User]


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    With 1300 additional tests compared to yesterday, the positivity rate is the exact same

    Would hope its the net widening on existing clusters, but they are springing up with relative frequency. Will be "concerning" to uses TH's words, if a plateau or slight falloff is not there in the next 10 to 14 days. I dont think its a serious concern until we start seeing the hospital figures edge towards 50+ and the ICU number rising alongside.


  • #6614
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    s1ippy wrote: »
    The berating will continue until morale improves :D...

    I'm heading on Friday evening after dropping a relative to an appointment. Haha I hope they don't need to put anything in the boot because then the jig will be up. I'll post pictures of the camp on Monday. :D

    It's a truism in medicine and nursing S1ippy that you cannot look after others, unless you look after yourself first.

    Have a whale of a time on your break and come back with the batteries fully charged and ready for anything !

    :D


  • #6615
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Would hope its the net widening on existing clusters, but they are springing up with relative frequency. Will be "concerning" to uses TH's if a plateau or slight falloff is not there in the next 10 to 14 days. I dont think its a serious concern until we start seeing the hospital figures edge towards 50+ and the ICU number rising alongside.


    It's not entirely surprising though is it? You've got 100 cases in Kildare and have to test all their contacts who are likely positive. That could be 2-4 per case. Same in Offaly.. same in Laois. We're going to see these sort of figures for the next week at least as these clusters filter through.

    70 cases a day now is not the same as 70 cases a day in March. We can track these cases. In March it was randomly popping up all over the country.


  • #6616
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    With 1300 additional tests compared to yesterday, the positivity rate is the exact same
    It's 1.5%. Which is above the 1.4% 7-day average, indicating an upwards trend.

    Really important though not to lose the run of ourselves. The numbers are still very low, and the growth is tiny. And, as you say, coming through from clusters.


  • #6617
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    s1ippy wrote: »
    I know this is a crazy place to ask for advice but I can't really bring this to my family because it's personal, so any insight appreciated.

    Basically I'm in the depths of depression (like a lot of other people). I haven't left the house in five months except to care for my high-risk relatives. I didn't get to do anything I enjoy during my annual leave because it was crap weather for the whole time so I didn't get out to the garden much. My life is just work to earn money, work for my family, sleep. At the weekends it's more family demands and fall into bed exhausted and mostly just want to die.

    So this weekend a friend of mine suggested I go camping with a small group and I jumped at the invitation. It's perfect, outdoors with my own personal accommodation and loads of space to distance out. I can retreat to my space or even leave entirely if I decide that it's not safe and I need to.

    I mentioned it to my relative, thinking they'd be happy that I have something fun to look forward to, jaysis I was majorly wrong. They seem determined to prevent me from going now and they're badgering me relentlessly since I told them.

    I'm a fairly hurt because they're happy enough for me to go and wait in a pharmacy to get their medication but they seem fairly incensed by the idea of me taking some time to relax myself in what I would regard as an extremely low-risk situation. I'm probably not going to go now, not because of any risk but just because I won't enjoy it knowing that I'll get berated for my actions next week.

    It's a quite mad situation that I never envisaged myself in and it's kind of put how pathetic my life is in perspective.
    Had a conversation about this recently with someone who was unsure whether to go home to their own country for a couple of weeks on account of a childcare job here and quarantine on return. Despite desperately needing it mentally they were more worried about everyone else. Eventually tickets were bought! A week on not a peep, which to me is a sign that fun is being had.

    Families can put huge pressures on us, for their own reasons and sometimes for our "own good". They can also be better at forgiving us! So I'd go, take whatever precautions you feel you need to and take the hit on the family when you come back recharged. Have a good trip!


  • #6618
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,243 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Boggles wrote: »
    That's when he suspended the money and even that the outrage was pure lip service, the countries just made up the difference.

    He has since withdrawn from them.

    Basically crickets.

    Not to belabour the point. But he hasn't quite withdrawn with immediate effect; the US is still a member until July 2021.

    And, as we all know, a lot can happen between now and then.


  • #6619
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Benimar wrote: »
    73 positive swabs today. Obviously may not mean 73 additional cases.
    True and I would expect the cases to be
    45 to 55 today and the majority of those cases to be related to direct provision centres, Meat plants etc.


  • #6620
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,548 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Arghus wrote: »
    Not to belabour the point. But he hasn't quite withdrawn with immediate effect; the US is still a member until July 2021.

    And, as we all know, a lot can happen between now and then.

    A lot of what Trump has done in terms of deals and no deals and pulling out of this that and the other, which have Democrats spitting fire when he does it, will be quietly kept on if Joe takes the house who has said he will immediately reverse the decision, he may but it will come with terms and conditions of absolute reform.

    The Democrats are not the "lunatic liberals" The Donald would like you to believe.


  • #6621
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    US2 wrote: »
    Yeah and you dont see constant posts about it, but as soon as someone who plays GAA even goes for a test its nationwide news

    I'm as GAA as they come but the others are reported on too

    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Activity-suspended-at-two-Cork-cricket-clubs-after-suspected-Covid-19-case-reported-f49fbb8b-0940-4d42-a7fe-144eeda015fb-ds

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0805/1157471-first-waterford-player-negative-for-covid-19/

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0803/1157079-sligo-v-waterford-called-off-over-covid-worries/


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  • #6622
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    43 new cases in Northern Ireland today, big increase


  • #6623
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    43 new cases in Northern Ireland today, big increase
    Bundoran!:D


  • #6624
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Bundoran!:D
    The day after it featured on the news, there were 5km traffic jams to get into the town. People are mad.


  • #6625
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    Changed the layout of the hub too.

    Wonder will they ever update the map beyond June 12th.
    Boggles wrote: »
    Could be more.

    There was relatively very little swab testing done over the bank holiday.

    Seems like a lot more people are coming forward based on yesterdays testing number.

    Decent enough ascent according to GPBuddy on twitter, although some may be explained with a bank holiday weekend.

    https://twitter.com/gpbuddy/status/1291140490180661249?s=20


  • #6626
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,548 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Is there a press conference tonight?

    Can't wait for Prof Nolan and his charts telling us the R nought value is 127.

    Quietly followed by the explanation that R nought value is utterly useless at these levels.

    I would just love if a journalist shouted at him during it.

    "Then why the fúck do you insist on bringing it up Philip?"


  • #6627
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    What's the etiquette in a situation like this? I was in a well known cafe in Cork this morning, they've switched from self to table service but I was struggling to see any extra distance between the tables. There was a guy sitting between 1 and 1.2m from me who was sniffelling a lot and coughed into his hand a few times, now he may have been tested and it was just a common cold but I don't know that.
    Should I have asked to be moved to another table? or should he have made his circumstances known and asked to be sat away from people. I've been to a few places where I've had my temperature checked and quite a few places where I had to leave contact details but not here. Are contact tracing policies up to the individual businesses?


  • #6628
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,548 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Seamai wrote: »
    What's the etiquette in a situation like this? I was in a well known cafe in Cork this morning, they've switched from self to table service but I was struggling to see any extra distance between the tables. There was a guy sitting between 1 and 1.2m from me who was sniffelling a lot and coughed into his hand a few times, now he may have been tested and it was just a common cold but I don't know that.
    Should I have asked to be moved to another table? or should he have made his circumstances known and asked to be sat away from people. I've been to a few places where I've had my temperature checked and quite a few places where I had to leave contact details but not here. Are contact tracing policies up to the individual businesses?

    Jump straight out through the front window and run.


  • #6629
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Go Sl1ppy Go! :)

    source.gif

    (Seriously..Go!)


  • #6630
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Seamai wrote: »
    What's the etiquette in a situation like this? I was in a well known cafe in Cork this morning, they've switched from self to table service but I was struggling to see any extra distance between the tables. There was a guy sitting between 1 and 1.2m from me who was sniffelling a lot and coughed into his hand a few times, now he may have been tested and it was just a common cold but I don't know that.
    Should I have asked to be moved to another table? or should he have made his circumstances known and asked to be sat away from people. I've been to a few places where I've had my temperature checked and quite a few places where I had to leave contact details but not here. Are contact tracing policies up to the individual businesses?

    I've got a throat issue. Nasal drip. I clear my throat like any normal person does every once in a while. I also may cough once every few hours

    Are you seriously telling me that someone like me, with an issue like that, has to tell someone in a Cafe/Bar/Restaurant my personal business, that has nothing to do with the current pandemic, in order to put your mind at ease?


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  • #6631
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Boggles wrote: »
    Is there a press conference tonight?

    Can't wait for Prof Nolan and his charts telling us the R nought value is 127.

    Quietly followed by the explanation that R nought value is utterly useless at these levels.

    I would just love if a journalist shouted at him during it.

    "Then why the fúck do you insist on bringing it up Philip?"

    Hahaha :D I think you should go, tell him first to go fcuk himself, and then that this is not a village where we all go round with our c0cks hanging out.


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