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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #5582
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    MM keeps on scapegoating NPHET for government decisions!

    NPHET running the country again

    Government didn't have the balls to go against them


  • #5583
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,402 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Everyone out of the bar/restaurant by 11pm
    Is that new or was it always the case?

    I know some pubs letting customers out at 2am, also hotel bars are open
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #5584
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Sounds like pubs are to remain closed indefinitely.

    Which isn't that surprising really.


  • #5585
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Everyone out of the bar/restaurant by 11pm
    Is that new or was it always the case?

    Is this true? Surely not?! If there is a 105 minute time limit what's wrong with being there from 10.15 to 12?


  • #5586
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I know some pubs letting customers out at 2am, also hotel bars are open

    that was fine until now


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  • #5587
    Galadriel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Galadriel


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I know some pubs letting customers out at 2am, also hotel bars are open

    Hotel bars are only open if they serve food.


  • #5588
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    MOR316 wrote: »
    "We encourage people to meet outdoors. But the virus thrives when you congregate outdoors"

    That's not selective hearing, that's exactly what he said
    Wasn't watching, but this type of setup is really not his forte. Michael is a debater! However, I get the impression that he's a lot more nervous about COVID-19 than Varadkar anyway.


  • #5589
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    NPHET running the country again

    Government didn't have the balls to go against them

    But even when they do go with the NPHET advice, they should stand over their own decisions, not just point the finger.


  • #5590
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Boggles wrote: »
    Sounds like pubs are to remain closed indefinitely.

    Which isn't that surprising really.

    If the skool plan "works" there might be hope for them in October.


  • #5591
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Meanwhile in Europe, Danes have stalled Phase 4 , German cases up, Greece highest cases in weeks and French on the verge of losing control again.

    And Swedens cases are now plummetting whilst all those countries are seeing rises after lockdowns.


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  • #5592
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    But even when they do go with the NPHET advice, they should stand over their own decisions, not just point the finger.

    True

    Easy to shift the blame to NPHET who will always recommend a cautious approach


  • #5593
    shinzon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    NPHET running the country again

    Government didn't have the balls to go against them

    Not this again NPHET is not some shadowy cabal who secretly runs the country, they give the health advice to government and its upto government to either take the advice and act on it or not.

    Leo and Co went against NPHET and accelerated the roadmap, its just gets MM out of a hole to say its NPHET that gave us the advice.

    Shin


  • #5594
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,402 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Galadriel wrote: »
    Hotel bars are only open if they serve food.

    food usually stops 9pm 9.30pm but they stay open for drink serving, has it changed now?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #5595
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,720 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    normanoffside wrote: »
    How would anyone know if you've been to San Marino?
    The only way to get there is through italy

    Same with Monaco. That was on the green list but the nearest airport is Nice which is deemed as France and wasn't in green list.

    To thine own self be true



  • #5596
    Stheno
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    food usually stops 9pm 9.30pm but they stay open for drink serving, has it changed now?

    The late bars in my area serve food till half past midnight


  • #5597
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    shinzon wrote: »
    Not this again NPHET is not some shadowy cabal who secretly runs the country, they give the health advice to government and its upto government to either take the advice and act on it or not.

    Leo and Co went against NPHET and accelerated the roadmap, its just gets MM out of a hole to say its NPHET that gave us the advice.

    Shin

    NPHET recommendations are powerful

    They will always be uber cautious and risk adverse

    Just like this government

    They couldn't even allow more people outdoors


  • #5598
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    And Swedens cases are now plummetting whilst all those countries are seeing rises after lockdowns.
    Well none of those countries have Swedes living in them in big numbers! The kind of activity causing surges in other countries is not what the "responsible" Swedes would do. The Swedes just want to be proven right at this stage but you'd still get no takers for their strategy anyway.


  • #5599
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,457 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    If they didn't open the pubs a few weeks back when cases were low I can't see them being opened again for at least 6 months.

    How can they justify opening them unless the cases are lower than in July? I feel sorry for anyone in the industry, the uncertainty must be awful.


  • #5600
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stheno wrote: »
    The late bars in my area serve food till half past week

    Food served until 11 in one of our local late bars, all out by 12.30.


  • #5601
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    shinzon wrote: »
    Not this again NPHET is not some shadowy cabal who secretly runs the country, they give the health advice to government and its upto government to either take the advice and act on it or not.

    Leo and Co went against NPHET and accelerated the roadmap, its just gets MM out of a hole to say its NPHET that gave us the advice.

    Shin
    Roadmap acceleration was not the issue. In the main it was appropriate. It is other behaviours that keep our cases ticking along but we do need to accept levels similar to this and manage them as seems to be happening.


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  • #5602
    AUDI20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭AUDI20


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    My partner works in a small shop, hopefully she and the staff will refuse entry to anyone not wearing a mask. Simple.
    Unless your partner is also a Gardai good luck with that.


  • #5603
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,545 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    surely the review of this will take place in 3 weeks and start in 4 weeks


  • #5604
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    My partner works in a small shop, hopefully she and the staff will refuse entry to anyone not wearing a mask. Simple.
    Judging by the non-existent crowds in the centre of Dublin today I'm not sure they'll have that luxury. All they can do is manage the crowd.


  • #5605
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Food served until 11 in one of our local late bars, all out by 12.30.

    WTF is their logic in rowing back on current arrangements when there have been no particular issues, and what do they think changing things by an hour or 1.5 hours will solve? It's bizarre.


  • #5606
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    There seems to be a lot of shock and bewilderment at today's announcement, which I don't really understand. Surely it was fairly signposted that pubs reopening was unlikely to go ahead.


  • #5607
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Arghus wrote: »
    There seems to be a lot of shock and bewilderment at today's announcement, which I don't really understand. Surely it was fairly signposted that pubs reopening was unlikely to go ahead.

    I'm more confused about the rowing back re pubs already open - where does NPHET think 11pm versus midnight is a problem for those of us who get out a bit later in the evening?


  • #5608
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    NPHET running the country again

    Government didn't have the balls to go against them

    Which is a good thing! Imagine if they went against the medical advice like certain other countries.


  • #5609
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Can someone explain to me why the announcement of face masks being mandatory is different from face masks. Supposedly... being mandatory?

    There's no talk of actual legislation or enforcement.


  • #5610
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,236 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    AUDI20 wrote: »
    Unless your partner is also a Gardai good luck with that.

    Some shops here have been doing this already with no issues.


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  • #5611
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    I'm more confused about the rowing back re pubs already open - where does NPHET think 11pm versus midnight is a problem for those of us who get out a bit later in the evening?

    I think they know a lot of "restaurants" were taking the piss.


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