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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #1232
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    They're very accurate, especially in places where there lots of infections, the more infections there are the less room there is for error. So the New York antibod testing gives a very good idea of what the global IFR is due to the quality of the study and the fact that New York has such a diverse population.

    Doing antibody testing in an area with high infection that gives a high positivity rate (tho for NY you are only talking of 16% positivity rate) does not equate to an accurate test
    The test relies on enough antibodies being in your body to even give a positive result

    (and you edited your post)


  • #1233
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Doing antibody testing in an area with high infection that gives a high positivity rate (tho for NY you are only talking of 16% positivity rate) does not equate to an accurate test
    The test relies on enough antibodies being in your body to even give a positive result

    (and you edited your post)

    I don't get what you mean, 90% of antibody testing done on patients who were exposed to the virus at least 15 days prior receive an accurate result. What is so inaccurate about that?


  • #1234
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    I don't get what you mean, 90% of antibody testing done on patients who were exposed to the virus at least 15 days prior receive an accurate result. What is so inaccurate about that?
    Antibodies are not the only thing that shows immunity. I would say the infection rate thats shown is inaccurately low.


  • #1235
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    I don't get what you mean, 90% of antibody testing done on patients who were exposed to the virus at least 15 days prior receive an accurate result. What is so inaccurate about that?

    The main part is the test was from 70-90% accurate for people who had symptoms
    Forgoing the minimum 10% failure rate a lot of people don't even have symptoms - where is their percentages?
    People with symptoms are more likely to have higher antibody counts and easier to detect
    Asymptomatic people do not have a high antibody count


  • #1236
    embraer170
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭embraer170


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    heart wrenching stuff from US.

    You don't want to see the NHS COVID critical care guidelines. They have been posted in this thread a few times, but pretty difficult reading.


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  • #1237
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    embraer170 wrote: »
    You don't want to see the NHS COVID critical care guidelines. They have been posted in this thread a few times, but pretty difficult reading.

    Not only the UK - Italy were doing the same thing
    No point putting people who have almost no chance of surviving - either thru preexisting conditions or whatever - at the sake of saving someone who has a high chance of surviving


  • #1238
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Well at least your Granny cannot catch chlamydia off you if you have it when you pop in for a visit.

    Depends on the type of visit. :pac:


  • #1239
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Not only the UK - Italy were doing the same thing
    No point putting people who have almost no chance of surviving - either thru preexisting conditions or whatever - at the sake of saving someone who has a high chance of surviving

    I would take behaviour / recklessness into account too.


  • #1240
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    Yes an offensive post.
    But it's offensive that people can give the two fingers to everyone else trying to keep this thing contained.
    It's very ignorant to think that its ok to gather a couple of hundred people from all around the country to one area. All it would take is one infected person to pass it on to all those climbers.
    But shur tissnt my problem


    What process would infect all these climbers? I'm sure there were just as many people gathered in one place in Henry Street in Dublin, are they also giving two fingers to everyone else?


  • #1241
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,427 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Is Boards playing up still or has Beasty been doing some spring cleaning?

    Plenty errors
    https://forumofgames.com/




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  • #1242
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Plenty errors

    A lotta posts disappeared...


  • #1243
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    JJayoo wrote: »
    I'm gonna take it you're new to the internet

    On the contrary, it is you that seems not to know how the internet works.
    If you are going to spread rubbish, some people will think they can do it.

    If you drink in a pub you're to have a meal as well.
    Not one meal for a group.


  • #1244
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,047 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have a bad feeling Vietnam is about to finally get wrecked by Covid-19. The first two times here, people were wearing masks. This time, no one has worn masks in months and there hasn't been any social distancing, there has been enormous domestic tourism to the city now infected, and it's a strain not seen here before that is much worse.

    And in what I'll call a bad omen, there was a small earthquake as I was typing this.


  • #1245
    ChelseaRentBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling Vietnam is about to finally get wrecked by Covid-19. The first two times here, people were wearing masks. This time, no one has worn masks in months and there hasn't been any social distancing, there has been enormous domestic tourism to the city now infected, and it's a strain not seen here before that is much worse.

    And in what I'll call a bad omen, there was a small earthquake as I was typing this.

    It's not just Vietnam the whole planet is in real trouble now. Difficult Winter ahead for Europe in particular.


  • #1246
    sideswipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    It's not just Vietnam the whole planet is in real trouble now. Difficult Winter ahead for Europe in particular.

    That’s a nice cheery thought to start the week!!


  • #1247
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    It's not just Vietnam the whole planet is in real trouble now. Difficult Winter ahead for Europe in particular.

    winterF.jpg


  • #1248
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭the corpo


    I think boards got infected....not social distancing enough from other message boards


  • #1249
    leavingirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    Miike wrote: »
    Even your post history gives me an eye watering migraine.

    Another one for the ignore list. Lads soon I'm going to be posting to myself on Boards!

    Ah medical Mike. If you look back at my posts from March you will see people calling me a crazy conspiracy theorist for saying that they try make a vaccination mandatory. Well here we are.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/strong-legal-basis-for-making-covid-19-vaccinations-mandatory-1.4313941?mode=amp


  • #1250
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    My house mate who's a chef at the Clayton in Galway was saying a lot of the hotels in the city are booked out and its quite messy about, I suspect a small surge of cases coming from this as well as Air B&B's being booked out for house parties.

    I've been in Galway for the last week, back yesterday. Its fairly busy, alot of staycations and yes most hotels are fairly heavily booked not just for race week but well out until end of August.

    Didn't see anything too messy while I was there though, the odd few lads drunk but nothing too bad.

    Some "restaurants" (pubs) sticking to the 1hr 45 but mainly the more popular ones who have bookings for the night, other places not so much. Food requirement is also fairly hit and miss


  • #1251
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭Polar101


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Ah medical Mike. If you look back at my posts from March you will see people calling me a crazy conspiracy theorist for saying that they try make a vaccination mandatory. Well here we are.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/strong-legal-basis-for-making-covid-19-vaccinations-mandatory-1.4313941?mode=amp

    Is this where we are supposed to say "oh no, our worst fears have come true! But fortunately there was one who warned us early"? Or was there a point?


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  • #1252
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    It's not just Vietnam the whole planet is in real trouble now. Difficult Winter ahead for Europe in particular.


    That's the spirit!


  • #1253
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling Vietnam is about to finally get wrecked by Covid-19


    Isn't Vietnam and pretty much all of South East Asia closed to tourism?* Surely that'll keep numbers down





    * Excluding Scambodia, with their "leave us a $3,000 deposit and if you test negative you'll get it back, honest!"


  • #1254
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    blade1 wrote: »
    On the contrary, it is you that seems not to know how the internet works.
    If you are going to spread rubbish, some people will think they can do it.

    If you drink in a pub you're to have a meal as well.
    Not one meal for a group.

    But this is what's happening, have you not seen all the receipt floating around social media?

    You seem very niave


  • #1255
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling Vietnam is about to finally get wrecked by Covid-19. The first two times here, people were wearing masks. This time, no one has worn masks in months and there hasn't been any social distancing, there has been enormous domestic tourism to the city now infected, and it's a strain not seen here before that is much worse.

    And in what I'll call a bad omen, there was a small earthquake as I was typing this.

    Not saying you are incorrect but what is this about a strain in Vietnam that is much worse? Have you a reference?


  • #1256
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Ah medical Mike. If you look back at my posts from March you will see people calling me a crazy conspiracy theorist for saying that they try make a vaccination mandatory. Well here we are.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/strong-legal-basis-for-making-covid-19-vaccinations-mandatory-1.4313941?mode=amp

    I'd hate to see the panic if you got your hands on a copy of the dailymail


  • #1257
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,047 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Isn't Vietnam and pretty much all of South East Asia closed to tourism?* Surely that'll keep numbers down

    It did for a long time but there have been a spate of searches and arrests for Chinese illegals in that city recently, apparently got to do with seafood catches. The punishments handed out to them and the Vietnamese people involved will be outrageously severe. Manslaughter if anyone dies type of thing and I heard a few Viets just got insta-tried and were handed 21 years between them.


  • #1258
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It did for a long time but there have been a spate of searches and arrests for Chinese illegals in that city recently, apparently got to do with seafood catches. The punishments handed out to them and the Vietnamese people involved will be outrageously severe. Manslaughter if anyone dies type of thing and I heard a few Viets just got insta-tried and were handed 21 years between them.


    Are you currently living in Vietnam?

    Parts of it are insanely densely crowded, which isn't great in this situation


  • #1259
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Thierry12 wrote: »
    Antibody tests are crap and miss lots of cases

    Why do people keep bringing them up when they are not accurate?

    Many many people have had Covid19 and tested negative for antibodies months, even weeks later, they tell us nothing.

    Do you think chicken pox antibodies are flowing through your blood right now?

    A lot of them are really really crap - but some or actually good, there is ongoing testing to find a good one, so it can be the official test.


  • #1260
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Ah medical Mike. If you look back at my posts from March you will see people calling me a crazy conspiracy theorist for saying that they try make a vaccination mandatory. Well here we are.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/strong-legal-basis-for-making-covid-19-vaccinations-mandatory-1.4313941?mode=amp
    Article is paywalled, but the author is a legal academic.

    Which leads me to guess that this is basically a think piece, probably a series of legal what-ifs. The opinion of one legal professional does not make a scenario more likely or less crazy.

    There may be some contexts in which someone will be denied access to work or education if they do not get vaccinated. But universal mandatory vaccination will not be a thing.


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  • #1261
    [Deleted User]
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    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Are you currently living in Vietnam?

    Parts of it are insanely densely crowded, which isn't great in this situation

    Yeah, been here for 10 years. They're already shutting that city down and I guess where I live will be shut again next week or the week after.

    Population density doesn't matter a whole lot. The fact F1s go to quarantine makes everyone careful. Even if not worried about the virus, you don't want to get caught up in all that.


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