Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It already is unofficially, plenty of people left Dublin this morning for Spain, uninsured as a result of government travel advice. If they need to be repatriated Mr & Mrs Taxpayer in this country will be picking up the tab, makes no sense, either ban the flights or green list them all.

Travel insurance companies aren't completely null and voiding policies over Covid, in fact some have come out and said travellers are still covered were they to come down with Covid.

If these travellers have an EHIC, a hospital in Spain will give them all necessary treatment for coronavirus in any case.

God forbid were a tourist to be knocked down in Spain, their travel insurance would still likely cover repatriation.

leavingirl wrote: »

This is Nazi Germany stuff.

You need to study some history.

leavingirl wrote: »

This is Nazi Germany stuff.

Even your post history gives me an eye watering migraine.

Another one for the ignore list. Lads soon I'm going to be posting to myself on Boards!

Deleted User wrote: »

I honestly find it absurd that confirmed cases aren't in quarantine hotels. It's the norm where I am and I just assumed it was like that everywhere at the start.

How does that work for the children of confirmed cases? If a single parent or both parents test positive where do their (seemingly) uninfected children go? The children could either be uninfected, so should be kept safe so they don't get infected. Or testing negative because their infection isn't detectable, so if they could infect whoever they go stay with. I'm pretty sure I had the virus and once I started having symptoms isolated but as a single parent, couldn't stay adequately away from my 7 year old to be sure of never infecting him. I couldn't send him to stay with anyone to protect him as he could just have been infected but pre-symptomatic at that point. He started dry-coughing and having diarrhoea less than a week after I developed breathing difficulty. He was better long before I was.

As much as I hate that I probably infected him, I think that it was better than risking him infecting extended family. And definitely better than what he'd have gone through if he'd had to stay alone in some sort of quarantine facility. Just having the line of infection end in our house with the two of us was probably the best outcome.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

HSE Daily Operations Update (yesterday)

11 in hospital, increase of 1.
Two confirmed cases yesterday in the Mater and Beaumont.
5 in ICU and 3 on ventilators, no change.

I know this has been asked a hundred times but does that figure of 11 include the 5 in ICU or is it 11+5 in hospital altogether?

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My youngest son is 20. He met up with a group of friends in Clare two weeks ago tomorrow. They rented 2 houses. About 30 odd, students. Life goes on.

Wow how were 20 year olds able to afford that?

heart wrenching stuff from US.

Martina1991 wrote: »

Testing wont stop the spread of the virus. Social distancing, PPE and hand hygiene stop this virus.

True, I'm not suggesting we throw away everything in favour of testing alone, I think masks, hygiene, physical distancing etc are all still very important to continue during a pandemic, I just think a dramatic increase in testing could seriously improve the situation and allow lifting of some restrictions.

Martina1991 wrote: »

For Ireland, our test, track and trace is working very well. Our cases are localised mainly to clusters and households.

It may be, I don't see how extra testing would affect this though? We could continue to do it...

Martina1991 wrote: »

PCR using nasopharengyl swabs is the gold standard method. We dont need to sacrifice accuracy for something quick and cheap that isn't needed. You also can't control the performance or compliance of every citizen to perform a home test each day.

This is precisely the point of the research, that the gold standard is an excessive standard that is impeding more effective approaches. "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good"

Martina1991 wrote: »

That paper is a statistical model based on a hypothesis.

Yes, its called science.

Martina1991 wrote: »

It should also be noted that it is from the US where the virus is out of control and Trump plans to open up schools next month. It may be a useful way to prevent new infections, but its like using buckets of water to put out a house fire.
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We're a month into phase 3 and schools will open as planned. People thought bank holidays, good weather and pubs would ruin our progress, but it hasn't.

I trust the system.

I stop responding to your platitudes here. You seem smart, I'm not fighting you, I'm just offering a very interesting piece of information that I think could really help the situation

Eod100 wrote: »

Fairly easily if there were 15 people in each house I'd say. Unless there were 15 beds in each one which I doubt

Doubt sleeping would be the reason for renting.